How do after-hours get away with letting people smoke in their club?
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Maybe no complaints? No investigators working at these hours? And if they sell alchool, they are already illegal so, likely no big deal adding one more offence! Lots of these places are already operating without proper licence anyway! It's not just alchool licences, there's fire inspection, salubrity, zoning, name it...)
Those arent the only places.........
I know of a very popular club d/t that allows smoking in their VIP lounge as
well as the mens bathroom.
You're not breaking the rules if you dont get caught.
I know of a very popular club d/t that allows smoking in their VIP lounge as
well as the mens bathroom.
You're not breaking the rules if you dont get caught.
Just Alex said:
They don't.. They would be stupid to do it and risk getting shut down! Plus I doubt they would want everyone rushing there at 3am when all the bars stop serving alcohol just so they can keep drinking, and all the trouble that would come along with it.
True but what about the smoking? people don't hide to smoke, it's all in the open for all to see and smell!Mlle Bijou said:They don't.. They would be stupid to do it and risk getting shut down! Plus I doubt they would want everyone rushing there at 3am when all the bars stop serving alcohol just so they can keep drinking, and all the trouble that would come along with it.
Mlle Bijou said:They don't.. They would be stupid to do it and risk getting shut down! Plus I doubt they would want everyone rushing there at 3am when all the bars stop serving alcohol just so they can keep drinking, and all the trouble that would come along with it.
Then what's the point? All of the blind pigs I've been to serve booze.
Angela's beside the old Station 10 served booze all night, to all comers. Including off-duty SQ and MUC coppers.
Kids these days! Worried about a little interference by John Law. Have we all become pussified?
cpp433 said:
They tried that in New York, I believe. The law had made provisions for private clubs. Like, private clubs also had to comply with the non-smoking law.
Whiskey Café negotiated a smoking license for their cigar lounge, so apparently it is possible to smoke in a club. The rule is, you must have purchased the smoke from them to be allowed to consume it on the premises.
Okay, now to add my F'ed up American opinion. I live in the smoking capital of America, Las Vegas. They just passed a state law that says basically we can't smoke indoors if food is served in that area. being that we can drink 24/7 in Nevada, most bars also serve food..... wings, hamburgers, bar food. When the law was passed, quite a few bars, fired their whole kitchen staff & the rest went non-smoking. It's been over a year now and most smaller local bars are just not enforcing the no-smoking policy..... even to go as far as to set out ashtrays on the tables.
As far as drinking & smoking..... they go hand in hand, and neither should be banned. As far as smoking in Afterhours Clubs, what the F are you doing at 4AM in a dance club anyway? And how does that smoke bother you? Does it take away from your Ecstasy or GHB High? If you just like the music, why not just go to the Picnik Electronik?
While I am a smoker, I am all for banning smoking in any family oriented business, but any place that serves hard alcohol, is not a place for kids and should allow people to smoke there. It makes me sick when I see a family with young children sitting at a table with their parents, at a bar, while guys nearby are doing shots and swearing with every other word. Since Vegas adults are not the smartest, we need to have laws not banning smoking or drinking, but banning anyone under the drinking age from entering. Let the adults decide for only themselves, not their children
By the way, I love smoking Djarum Blacks in Circus! I didn't get high, but I had many drinks before I got there. I hope more places in Montreal, get away with allowing smoking in them....... although, it is kind of fun to go hang out in the smoking areas outside of clubs, where you can actually talk to people without screaming...... smokers by design are more socialable people...... we never know when we are going to need to bum a smoke or light off a stranger.
As far as drinking & smoking..... they go hand in hand, and neither should be banned. As far as smoking in Afterhours Clubs, what the F are you doing at 4AM in a dance club anyway? And how does that smoke bother you? Does it take away from your Ecstasy or GHB High? If you just like the music, why not just go to the Picnik Electronik?
While I am a smoker, I am all for banning smoking in any family oriented business, but any place that serves hard alcohol, is not a place for kids and should allow people to smoke there. It makes me sick when I see a family with young children sitting at a table with their parents, at a bar, while guys nearby are doing shots and swearing with every other word. Since Vegas adults are not the smartest, we need to have laws not banning smoking or drinking, but banning anyone under the drinking age from entering. Let the adults decide for only themselves, not their children
By the way, I love smoking Djarum Blacks in Circus! I didn't get high, but I had many drinks before I got there. I hope more places in Montreal, get away with allowing smoking in them....... although, it is kind of fun to go hang out in the smoking areas outside of clubs, where you can actually talk to people without screaming...... smokers by design are more socialable people...... we never know when we are going to need to bum a smoke or light off a stranger.
Problem isn't only with customers visiting these places: some peoples actually have to work there!
Since everybody is entitled to work in a safe environment, nobody can be forced to work in an environment where it is unnecessary unsafe and,, second-hand smoke is harmful to them also.
As far as saying they just have to work elsewhere, well, it just doesn't cut it as we are talking about people's health here and their right to work. That's supercedes other peoples right to gain some pleasure by killing themself.
Since everybody is entitled to work in a safe environment, nobody can be forced to work in an environment where it is unnecessary unsafe and,, second-hand smoke is harmful to them also.
As far as saying they just have to work elsewhere, well, it just doesn't cut it as we are talking about people's health here and their right to work. That's supercedes other peoples right to gain some pleasure by killing themself.
Working at 2 AM, 2 or 3 nights a week, cannot be considered a career at anything. Yes, people should have a right to work in a safe enviroment, but people should first understand that even without the smoke, that working in a drug den posing as a dance club, is not a safe enviroment. Any intelligent person, who's first priority was their own health, would not choose to work in a afterhours nightclub, and they already know about the lax enforcement of the smoking laws.
As far as people's right to killing themselves, alcohol will kill many more innocent bystanders, than second hand smoke. I believe Heart disease is the number one killer right now, should we ban Poutine and all fatty foods..... you know even if you don't order the Poutine, if your friend orders it, you will poach a bunch of his! I don't even live in Montreal, but I am addicted to that fatty goodness.......especially in the winter time!
Can't we all just have our own niche or place that we can call home & be ourselves, even if it isn't the smartest or healthiest thing to do. Isn't having fun & enjoying life just as important as working hard or paying taxes? I hope the Afterhours clubs stay just as they are! I hope to visit "Stereo" next trip. No, I am not Gay, but I do love Trance music and I have been told that Stereo, has the best sound system & DJ's in Montreal.
As far as people's right to killing themselves, alcohol will kill many more innocent bystanders, than second hand smoke. I believe Heart disease is the number one killer right now, should we ban Poutine and all fatty foods..... you know even if you don't order the Poutine, if your friend orders it, you will poach a bunch of his! I don't even live in Montreal, but I am addicted to that fatty goodness.......especially in the winter time!
Can't we all just have our own niche or place that we can call home & be ourselves, even if it isn't the smartest or healthiest thing to do. Isn't having fun & enjoying life just as important as working hard or paying taxes? I hope the Afterhours clubs stay just as they are! I hope to visit "Stereo" next trip. No, I am not Gay, but I do love Trance music and I have been told that Stereo, has the best sound system & DJ's in Montreal.
You don't get it UGHL. When you smoke next to me, you force me to do so also. When I drink alcohol or eat poutine, I don't shove any into your mouth. When I spill food, I soil my own clothes. Yours won't smell.
Telling bar workers to work elsewhere is Utopian. Serving in a club is the highest paying job I can think of aside from the sex trade for those who don't have professional credentials. Trading a job as a barmaid in a popular club for one serving in a McDonald's would mean a sacrifice of at least a hundred dollars a day.
What's wrong with the present solution of stepping outside for a smoke, getting a little fresh air and exercise and socializing with your fellow lepers?
Telling bar workers to work elsewhere is Utopian. Serving in a club is the highest paying job I can think of aside from the sex trade for those who don't have professional credentials. Trading a job as a barmaid in a popular club for one serving in a McDonald's would mean a sacrifice of at least a hundred dollars a day.
What's wrong with the present solution of stepping outside for a smoke, getting a little fresh air and exercise and socializing with your fellow lepers?
YouVantOption said:
Actually, you can bring your own cigars to Whiskey Café but they will charge you a $10 cutting fee, regular cigarettes are allowed to be smoked in the smoking room though.
As for the clubs, a bouncer from a downtown hotspot told me that they don't care if you light up, the cops frequent the club on a regular bases looking for mainly underage kids, drugs, etc. and if they catch you smoking, it's your ass that'll get the fine, not the owners.
anon_vlad said:
anon_vlad, I don't get it.
You have all the normal clubs open until 3 AM with all the highest paid, best looking wait staff, the hottest women drinking alcohol, that you cannot smoke in...... and yet you feel that you need to take away the the two places in all of Canada, where you can smoke & nobody cares. Have you ever gone to any afterhours nightclubs?
If you served in a afterhours club you would find out how very cheap, people who are not drinking really are. There is no comparison to working in a real nightclub. Most people who work in afterhours clubs really love the whole mellow scene & music. Working/serving in a afterhours nightclub is not the highest paid job. How much do you tip for a $6 bottle of water or $8 energy drink(that is not even Red Bull)?
There is nothing wrong with stepping outside for a smoke. What's wrong with people who never go to afterhour clubs not complaining about it?
I bet you feel better with the little name calling at the end there.... "lepers", very classy! You are the perfect and I am the freak. If you went to a afterhours club, you would know that we are all freaks. When the bartenders of Circus quit smoking, so will I...... at least in the club.
Please come to Vegas, just so you can find out how truly good you have it in Canada. We will laugh at you when you complain about the smoke in our Casinos, multi-million dollar nightclubs or even our dive bars. That's why Applebee's does so well.... to cater to all the perfect, healthy people. See, everyone's happy, we all have something to call our own..... Just in Vegas, there are way more freaks, so we freaks have way more venue's to choose from!
Nicely said..
This smoking thing has gone out of control!! However the real issue is that the quality of our air is going downhill. ANd this is not caused by smoking a butt.
For those that complain that smokers pollute their air, may I suggest that these people park their cars and take a bike or walk. I am also being forced to breath in that junk when I am walking DT..
So like the animal activists with their leather coats telling us how bad, seal hunting is, I would suggest that before you throw stones, make sure you are pure has the driven snow!!!
While I agree that smoking is not good for you, I would also point out that most of the fast food chains are not condusive to good health either.
As for the smokers out there, I strongly believe that your rights have been severly curtailed, as most us in way or another.
We are letting our state dictate morality and we are giving up our freedom of choice in doing so!
It is much easier in letting someone else do the thinking, but the price is our freedom and liberty!
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