How is it booking outcalls in Montreal these days?

[JS990]

Toronto Outcalls are a mess. A bunch of agencies that do both are just not doing them. They say they don't have drivers or the girls don't want to. Even agencies that only do outcalls are hard. Girls are cancelling, not responding, etc, etc. Had 3 outcalls in a row cancel on me. And those 3 were tough to book in the first place.

How are things in Montreal at the moment? Can you still book outcalls pretty easily?

 

[Numerati]

That is not hobbying anymore. This is called dating! Lol

Imagine someone all pumped up with Viagara in his system all ready to go.

 

[IamNY]

There was little need for outcalls during the pandemic. Agencies focused more on incall to stay in business. You still have Vogue which is a reliable outcall agency and hopefully as the world gets back to normal we can get more agencies like them. I did get used to incall agencies because there wasn't really a choice, but I have always preferred outcall, just more convenient.

 

[JS990]

That is not hobbying anymore. This is called dating! Lol

Imagine someone all pumped up with Viagara in his system all ready to go.

Lol, that was actually the thought I had. With all the hassle, uncertainty, and cancellations, it actually seems easier to just date at this point!

 

[MCTJ]

Outcall works great for me. My disappointment now is lack of new talent, more specifically on schedule. By that I mean that there are new girls on the roster, but they may work for a couple of days, then not show up again.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I been using Luxury a few times this years and so far its been a great experience. First time i did had a cancellation on a kinda latish booking but the booker was VERY helpfull in trying to get me another meeting the next day. Ended up seeing someone i had on my list for a while and had a great time. And this weekend, they helped me A LOT !! Not only was the booker really honest in telling me girls on my list would simply not be there while i was in town (so i knew to not hope for nothing) but i booked someone in the end that wasn't really on my radar, i mean no reviews, pics looking "fine" but nothing making me drool. At this point i was just hoping for someone nice, like even if she wasn't my type or whatever. And turned out i got a true HIDDEN gem lol. I say Hidden in caps because she don't want reviews and ill respect her wish. So yeah Luxury so far, im digging them man.

It sadden me honestly some agencies decided to (almost or all) only focuss incall. I understand its easier for both them and the girls. I mean if i don't like to go outside, walk/subway (or drive for some of you) in heat or cold, why these girls would like it? And i supose they invested a lot in these condos. Not to mention chaining up clients with barely just enough time for the girls to refresh. I think at one point as a "legacy client" i used to benefit of outcall privilege, maybe because they knew i was reliable, or maybe because i knew the owners from old parties etc. But from what i heard the staff changed a lot in recent years, and i booked less during Covid (as Mtl was less appealing to come to), so i feel i may have lost those privileges. Personally im willing to incall for a mega superstars i TRULY want to meet (or meet again) if i really have to, but i don't want to go incall for anyone. Like it change the experience for me. Take me a few bookings to finally be able to find the incall easier, i have an absolutely atrocious sense of orientation in a foreign city, so if i need to memorize incalls for multiple agencies oh boy.

But i totally understand why incall is popular even for clients and not just girls. I looked at the hotel prices recently and OUCH !! They off the roof. Im so glad i have a friend with a spare room to host me a few days. Its not everyone that is willing to honest home, or they may live too far from downtown etc etc. So i can totally understand they do not want to rent an hotel/motel, even a 4h, for nothing.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Not sure why anyone would want to do outcall. I find it to be a big pain. I got to the motel and check if there are four hour siestas available then text the booker my room number and then wait plus I got to pay for the room (Chablis now charges $70 for four hour basic siesta room). It is all an added step and adds too much complexities. I understand for tourists it is not ideal as they already have a hotel room. If I already had a hotel room I would definitely prefer outcall but for locals it is a big deal breaker. I believe it is more incall because the majority of clients prefer it. Before covid for years in Toronto incalls were the norm, it still is. And the worst part with outcall if the girl cancel on you, well you are stuck with the cost of the room. It happened to me once years ago, never again.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Not sure why anyone would want to do outcall. then text the booker my room number and then wait plus I got to pay for the room. It is all an added step and adds too much complexities. I understand for tourists it is not ideal as they already have a hotel room.

You pretty much nail it on why out of towners prefer outcall. Currently i have a friend letting me use a room at his place, so i don't pay (beside a diner and a few beers lol) but i used to book a room for sleep before i could sleep at this friend's place so i paid for the room already... And then there is the whole experience. Getting prepare in my own hotel room is NOTHING like going to an incall. I can take my time, relax while i wait for my date. The anticipation. If im lucky i can look out the window and maybe see her get out of the car, and then the knock. That sweet sound !! Its like the siren to the Stanley Cup final for a hockey player. Its starting, you're in it !! And finally you open the door and ... you got the big reveal (unless you had face pics but even there, she could had her hair different or whatever). Im sorry but an incall can't bring me this. I wash "home" (in this case friend's place), then i got to walk, take subway, walk again (thanksfully agencies are close to subway stations tough), then being nervous as i am, im way too early cause thats the only way i had to not be late, as im not sure exactly how much time it will take to get there. If its summer and sunny and not too hot, no big deal sure. But if its raining, cold in winter, or mega hot... not fun. It feel like going to a movie bordelo without the glamour shown on screen (no idea if true bordelo in Nevada are like that). Im sorry to say it so bluntly... but if incalls where like in the movies, where you arrive, sit in a big ambiant lobby, get a free drink, get to pick a girl on the floor after a little chat, in a cozy atmosphere, then maybe i would be like "cool its an experience". But currently you have to pre-book like a regular outcall, then just go there, enter the unit, and thats it. It lack glamour, it lack the experience. I dunno how to say it really...

It just makes me less comfortable. If its someone i seen before and we have chemistry, its fine. If its someone that is REALLY GOOD at their job and put me at ease... also fine. But if its not the case, and the girl is more reserved, shy, my gawd... at least outcall you have the home field advantage lol. You can mention anything, even random stuff like "yeah i like this hotel its small but cozy, been there for years" or in the case of my friend's place we can chat about it, like "my friend's cool, he let me use his place for this" etc etc

I dunno, outcall is like playing home, incall is like playing away, im not saying you can't win away, but its always harder and you always prefer playing home lol.

 

[CLOUD 500]

^^^^^
You are right, you make some good points. I had much better experiences when doing outcalls, I am not sure why but I suspect the incalls is really high volume type of venue. In an outcall I can be comfortable and take my time, use my own shower at my convenience, etc.. At an incall the times I went it was like a sweat shop factory. It was basically in and out, I had to use the showers. Not too comfortable and it was all rush rush.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I suspect in incalls there is maybe a 10 to 15 min max "deadzone" before next clients so the girl can take a shower and redo her hair. Efficient money wise... sure, especially if the girl would be fully booked anyway. Not necessarily that its mega high volume tough for everyone. I know some incall ladies do only 3 clients. But i supose it can be shorter shifts, so more money for less time spent overall "working" (since you can count getting driven etc as working) and some indeed goes for the "sweatshop" style of chaining them. I was listening to Marie Maxime the other day in The Kults podcast and she mentioned in the past when she worked in an agency (wich was probably not a merb agency tough) she done as much as 10 clients in 1 night... no idea if it was in or out, but 10... thats just too much. How can she have "fun", even in the context of its a a job, on her 8th or 9th client... Im not a women, so i have no idea how it work downstair, but even if someone offered me to pay for 10 different bookings of 1h with 10 ladies in a day, im sorry but after the 5th or 6th in a row... likely i wouldn't be able to go hard, my dick would hurt lol

I also supose whats true for me is true for them. THEY ALSO feel at home in their incall. So may make them more comfortable working.

Maybe the business changed and i refuse to let go the old ways. When i started... man... was there even ONE incall agency? On merb i mean? I think the first cases of incalls i saw were Goodgirls, Nadya VIP and Plaisir Rebel (but i never used this agency so very unfamiliar with them). Nadya booked downtown at a hotel if i remember correctly and they didn't liked outcall then, then Goodgirl was the one popularizing the incall. I remember they charged 20$ less too back then for incall (you kinda saved drivers fee lol, thats not something that exist anymore). I never had issues with Mike of Goodgirls booking me outcall. Thinking about it Goodgirl didn't lasted that long in the big picture, and i know Mike had his "issues" (was always great with me, im speaking generally) but man the mix of IN/OUT worked so well. But i supose if you don't know if next booking would be in or out, you kinda have to plan as an out. Maybe its an issue.

Anyway, maybe im beating a dead worse, and yeah if i was a booker/driver, i wouldn't want to drive to the other side of the island for 1h, i get this. But either ask peoples to go downtown or charge them an hefty extra (or a 2h minimum) for outcall outside downtown? I dunno. i would be ok dropping an Extra 40 even at this point even if downtown if it mean an outcall assured... See it as a new "extra" like CIM. LOL. Just want outcall to go back to its glory lol. Not be a rarity SOME agencies offer.