I messed up. What are the odds of me catching STDs or HIV

[vanhamm]

The odds vs odds, if you are scared why not get tested, back in the days I had a high end escort friends with benefits we enjoyed ourselves for about 6 months.

We had sex a few times without a condom but about a week after the encounter it started to burn when I peed and also my penis was burning. Took no chance went straight to CLSC they gave me a course of antibiotique and I did all the testing including the HIV test.

Took about 2 weeks back then and everything came back negative. There is no such things as odds, yes HIV transmission female to male doesn't happen often but look at Magic Johnson and Tommy Morrison the boxer they were infected by women.

 

[Julia Sky]

Not at all, duration do not affect the transmission of diseases. Not to worry too much my friend.
Put yourself in sex quarantine for 4 weeks, if everything is normal, no symptoms (redness, pain when you pee, liquid dripping, etc...) then you dont catch STD. If you have those symptoms go for a test and consult a doctor.

Yikes. I take it you were never educated on the subject and you don't bother ever getting tested? Way to tell on yourself in this thread. So many people are asymptomatic while infected. Every sexually active person should get tested, regardless of symptoms or the use of protection!

All I meant to say that anyone engaging in transactional sex (client or sp) is slightly more at risk than the general population *on average*.

I feel like this is a talking point from people who hate us or who do their studies based on street based sex work/underprivileged people with addiction and unsafe sex practices.

Sex workers like the ones you find here/online, tend to be far safer in their practice than the average population, and get tested waaaaay more often than the general population. So we rarely catch something if at all, and if/when we do, we don't spread it around for months and years like civilians do because they don't get tested and seldom use protection.

 

[Flabert]

Yikes. I take it you were never educated on the subject and you don't bother ever getting tested? Way to tell on yourself in this thread. So many people are asymptomatic while infected. Every sexually active person should get tested, regardless of symptoms or the use of protection!



I feel like this is a talking point from people who hate us or who do their studies based on street based sex work/underprivileged people with addiction and unsafe sex practices.

Sex workers like the ones you find here/online, tend to be far safer in their practice than the average population, and get tested waaaaay more often than the general population. So we rarely catch something if at all, and if/when we do, we don't spread it around for months and years like civilians do because they don't get tested and seldom use protection.

I could not have been clearer on my love of sex workers and care for their safety.

I did indicate my point is not a moral issue. I also never dramatized this issue, just indicated that the risk of sex with a sex worker (paid or personal life) and sex with a sex client (paid or personal life) is SLIGHTLY higher than general population sex, if only because of the volume of partners both clients and sex workers have (much above average). The anonymity of some sex transactions also increases risk (would a client or sex worker contact each other after a positive test? Some sure but few).

Testing helps but does not reverse this. Porn actors test a lot but are also more exposed on average to stds than the general population (even if in an absolute basis it is not huge, more a flare once in a while).

I won’t criticize streetwork but agree with you that the risk there seems higher. Don’t think the higher risk for sex work and sex clients comes only from streetwork but it a driver.

Btw, you can’t live your life without risk. With sound safe sex and respect for partners you can have a healthy, spicy sex life!

 

[Julia Sky]

I could not have been clearer on my love of sex workers and care for their safety.

I did indicate my point is not a moral issue. I also never dramatized this issue, just indicated that the risk of sex with a sex worker (paid or personal life) and sex with a sex client (paid or personal life) is SLIGHTLY higher than general population sex, if only because of the volume of partners both clients and sex workers have (much above average).

Yeah I wasn't trying to imply you have bias, just that you're repeating the same talking points that people who do have bias tend to use. Because in reality, having unprotected sex with one person from the bar who got tested once 6 years ago is exponentially more risky than having protected sex with 47 different escorts who get tested every 1-3 months and use protection. It's not about the number of partners, it's about safe sex practices and getting tested.

In theory, yes, more partners = more risk if only by probability, but in practice you need to take into account factors like protection use, regard for one's health, environment, etc. Having sex with a SW isn't inherently more risky.

Like yes if you drive 300 days a year you technically have more chances of getting into an accident than someone who drives twice a year, but if you use your seat belt and are alert meanwhile they drive drunk without a belt, then in reality they have more chances of a bad outcome than you do. Idk if I'm explaining correctly.

 

[transatlantic]

I guess she really trusted you because even for her there is a risk

Unless she is already positive with everything.

 

[Fradi]

All this gets confusing

dont worry I trust more a SP than a civilian, I think you will be fine just be careful in the future.

That is ridiculous.
You trust an SP that has unprotected sex with her client which is exactly what she did and without warning.
I would be pissed as hell if an SP did that to me it is exactly the same thing as a client taking off the condom during sex without the SP noticing.
This is dangerous, she is risking your health without your consent. SP like this should be avoided like the plague.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Since I didn’t have sex for a long time I went to an asian massage parlor. The lady gave me a BBJ, then put the condom and we fucked until I came. After we were done, she gave me a massage which made me horny again so I told her I was ready for a 2nd.

However this time she didn’t bother using condom and just started riding me. I couldn’t stop her because it felt so good, and came in like less than a minute. The lady is kind of old, and I don’t know if she is carrying anything

I messed up real bad and now I’m stressed about catching something that could change my life.

The likelihood of contracting a high-end STD is lower than you may think. What concerns me the most is why a massage service provider would go to such lengths to engage in unprotected intercourse with you.

This indicates that she has engaged in similar activities with other clients, which poses a significant risk of contracting an STD. It is often said that the risk of contracting an STD is higher from a random woman at a club than from a service provider.

This makes sense because a random woman may be more likely to engage in unprotected sex than a service provider who is active but consistently uses protection. If she has engaged in unprotected activities with you, it is likely she has done so with other clients as well.

I recommend getting tested and avoiding any further sexual encounters . My intention is not to scare you or make you paranoid, but to approach this situation logically. Best of luck, my friend.

 

[sunami]

Back in the days, I was a regular with Jeanne, jeanny something in Hochelaga.
At one point after a year of meeting she said it's ok I trust you, we don't need to use condoms anymore plus you're the only one I'm offering bareback sex.

So I just hopped in, it was so good, but I came on her belly after even though she said it was ok to cum inside her cuz she was taking the pills.

A day passed and she texted me and said: I'm texting you and all my regulars that I have caught gonorrea, you should go test yourself to make sure you didn't catch anything and receive the injection in any case.

I was so stress, that I booked an emergency clinic the same day and took the injection. The test came back negative a few days later. I was so lucky, so to be safe, I stayed around 4 weeks of this business and only kept to myself for the masturbation diet.

 

[TheJames101]

Back in the days, I was a regular with Jeanne, jeanny something in Hochelaga.
At one point after a year of meeting she said it's ok I trust you, we don't need to use condoms anymore plus you're the only one I'm offering bareback sex.

So I just hopped in, it was so good, but I came on her belly after even though she said it was ok to cum inside her cuz she was taking the pills.

A day passed and she texted me and said: I'm texting you and all my regulars that I have caught gonorrea, you should go test yourself to make sure you didn't catch anything and receive the injection in any case.

I was so stress, that I booked an emergency clinic the same day and took the injection. The test came back negative a few days later. I was so lucky, so to be safe, I stayed around 4 weeks of this business and only kept to myself for the masturbation diet.

*Just a caveat to note here is that testing that soon after exposure would not be enough time to detect if you had been infected or not

 

[sunami]

*Just a caveat to note here is that testing that soon after exposure would not be enough time to detect if you had been infected or not

They said the same back then and told me to come again 2 weeks later and get tested again, I didn't know so I paid twice =P

 

[Nachoy]

It’s so easy to get a STd test It’s usually a blood test and urine test In the old days doc had to stick a swab inside the urethra for GC or Clamydia Ouch!

 

[Anna Bijou]

The penetrated is usually more at risk but in this case he had been off sex lt and knows he his clean while she offered it unrequested so she might have had the more risky track record.

Either way what is done is done so getting tested (really important) or prep (likely overkill) is what matters.

It doesn't sound like he would know if he was clean. I don't get the impression that screening has been a priority.. I mean, i appreciate people asking but it's stuff people should know *before* they start having any sex, even with condom. There are still risks. Herpes & syphilis, for example. How are people making informed decisions when the informed part is not there? And all great to ask here but I'm not sure I'd personally rely on strangers on an online forum for health advice. But that's just me lol


Anyhoo.. Reposting these.
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[Anna Bijou]

*Just a caveat to note here is that testing that soon after exposure would not be enough time to detect if you had been infected or not

Agree although it is quite possible as (i think someone's mentioned it already), the "receiver" is a lot more at risk of transmission than the "giver". Yay for the "receiver", eh? (sarcasm, obviously lol)

 

[3thanw3bb3r]

What soa? Asking for me.

 

[HDarrow0]

The likelihood of contracting a high-end STD is lower than you may think. What concerns me the most is why a massage service provider would go to such lengths to engage in unprotected intercourse with you.

This indicates that she has engaged in similar activities with other clients, which poses a significant risk of contracting an STD. It is often said that the risk of contracting an STD is higher from a random woman at a club than from a service provider.

This makes sense because a random woman may be more likely to engage in unprotected sex than a service provider who is active but consistently uses protection. If she has engaged in unprotected activities with you, it is likely she has done so with other clients as well.

I recommend getting tested and avoiding any further sexual encounters . My intention is not to scare you or make you paranoid, but to approach this situation logically. Best of luck, my friend.

This gets repeated a lot but I've never seen any evidence to back it up. If anything, it would only be true of STDs that pass via bodily fluids (i.e. HIV, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia) and are close to being fully prevented by barrier contraceptives.

There was research in the early 2000s which showed that providers in the UK had very high rates of HSV2 (approximately 2 of 3) despite using barrier contraceptives at high rates. Because barrier contraceptives don't fully protect from STDs that pass from skin to skin (i.e. HSV and HPV), the greatest predictive factor of being infected by HSV2 was the number of lifetime partners or time in the industry.

The above statement isn't meant to stigmatize anybody or fear monger regarding STDs. However, as the lady above mentioned, people need the facts to make informed decisions.

How safe is safer sex? High levels of HSV-1 and HSV-2 in female sex workers in London - PMC

Female sex workers in Europe have low levels of sexually transmitted infections, attributable to condom use. The aim of this paper is to describe the seroepidemiology of HSV-1 and HSV-2 in female sex workers in London by using a 15-year prospective ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

This gets repeated a lot but I've never seen any evidence to back it up. If anything, it would only be true of STDs that pass via bodily fluids (i.e. HIV, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia) and are close to being fully prevented by barrier contraceptives.

There was research in the early 2000s which showed that providers in the UK had very high rates of HSV2 (approximately 2 of 3) despite using barrier contraceptives at high rates. Because barrier contraceptives don't fully protect from STDs that pass from skin to skin (i.e. HSV and HPV), the greatest predictive factor of being infected by HSV2 was the number of lifetime partners or time in the industry.

The above statement isn't meant to stigmatize anybody or fear monger regarding STDs. However, as the lady above mentioned, people need the facts to make informed decisions.

How safe is safer sex? High levels of HSV-1 and HSV-2 in female sex workers in London - PMC

Female sex workers in Europe have low levels of sexually transmitted infections, attributable to condom use. The aim of this paper is to describe the seroepidemiology of HSV-1 and HSV-2 in female sex workers in London by using a 15-year prospective ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Hello, friend. I appreciate your perspective, but I am confused when you mentioned that this gets repeated often. My question to you is, what exactly gets repeated often?

 

[HDarrow0]

Hello, friend. I appreciate your perspective, but I am confused when you mentioned that this gets repeated often. My question to you is, what exactly gets repeated often?

"It is often said that the risk of contracting an STD is higher from a random woman at a club than from a service provider."

I thought it was bolded in the quote.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

"It is often said that the risk of contracting an STD is higher from a random woman at a club than from a service provider."

I thought it was bolded in the quote.

There is indeed no concrete evidence to support the claim that the risk of contracting a STD is higher from a random woman at a club than from a service provider.

However, if you are a logical and reasonable person, you can piece together the puzzle and understand that a random individual who does not protect themselves is more likely to contract an STD than a service provider who takes precautions.

It is important to note that when you do not protect yourself, you may attract others who also do not protect themselves, increasing your vulnerability to STDs.

Conversely, protecting yourself tends to attract individuals who also prioritize protection, reducing the risk of contracting an STD. This is why I suggest that logical reasoning leads to the same conclusion.

Additionally, I am not a doctor, and my opinions, as well as those of others, should not be taken as professional medical advice.

As an example, during my time in the nightlife scene in Montreal, I often heard stories about individuals contracting STDs due to lack of protection. It seemed to be the same
circle peoples spreading those who did not protect themselves were spreading STDs among each other.

Conversely, I rarely heard of cases where individuals who prioritized protection ended up contracting an STD with the person with STD.While there may not be concrete evidence, my observations suggest that not protecting oneself can indeed increase vulnerability to STDs.

 

[HDarrow0]

There is indeed no concrete evidence to support the claim that the risk of contracting a STD is higher from a random woman at a club than from a service provider.

However, if you are a logical and reasonable person, you can piece together the puzzle and understand that a random individual who does not protect themselves is more likely to contract an STD than a service provider who takes precautions.

It is important to note that when you do not protect yourself, you may attract others who also do not protect themselves, increasing your vulnerability to STDs.

Conversely, protecting yourself tends to attract individuals who also prioritize protection, reducing the risk of contracting an STD. This is why I suggest that logical reasoning leads to the same conclusion.

Additionally, I am not a doctor, and my opinions, as well as those of others, should not be taken as professional medical advice.

As an example, during my time in the nightlife scene in Montreal, I often heard stories about individuals contracting STDs due to lack of protection. It seemed to be the same
circle peoples spreading those who did not protect themselves were spreading STDs among each other.

Conversely, I rarely heard of cases where individuals who prioritized protection ended up contracting an STD with the person with STD.While there may not be concrete evidence, my observations suggest that not protecting oneself can indeed increase vulnerability to STDs.

As I mentioned in my original post, that might be true but only with certain STDs (i.e. HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia) that transmit via bodily fluids and are therefore effectively prevented using barrier protection. Regarding STDs that transmit via skin to skin contact (i.e. HSV and HPV), barrier protection offers only modest protection and therefore the most important risk factor for contracting them is number of lifetime partners, regardless of use of barrier protection. Your chances of contracting an STD that spreads via skin to skin contact is going to be much higher with a professional simply because of how many more lifetime partners they have had (hundreds if not thousands) compared to a random woman at a club.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

As I mentioned in my original post, that might be true but only with certain STDs (i.e. HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia) that transmit via bodily fluids and are therefore effectively prevented using barrier protection. Regarding STDs that transmit via skin to skin contact (i.e. HSV and HPV), barrier protection offers only modest protection and therefore the most important risk factor for contracting them is number of lifetime partners, regardless of use of barrier protection. Your chances of contracting an STD that spreads via skin to skin contact is going to be much higher with a professional simply because of how many more lifetime partners they have had (hundreds if not thousands) compared to a random woman at a club.

I appreciate your opinion, but I would like to mention the likelihood of contracting a sexually transmitted disease through skin-to-skin contact. I have not come across any instances of individuals contracting such diseases solely through skin-to-skin contact. The only individuals I am aware of who have contracted something did so because they did not take necessary precautions.

Despite having been intimate with numerous service providers, possibly exceeding 500, I have not experienced any instances of contracting a disease through skin-to-skin contact or any STD. This can be attributed to my consistent practice of protecting myself.

Trust me, this is not a matter of luck, as I consider myself to be the most unfortunate individual in the world.In essence, it boils down to simple logic and precautionary measures.