In a serious relationship / good marriage and seeing SP's.

[Sol Tee Nutz]

After reading another thread I figured I may as well ask these questions.
How many of you are in a serious relationship / good marriage and see SP's?
Does she know? If so good for you.
If she does not know and you came home early one day and she was being fucked by someone would you care? Truthful.
Personally I have few scruples and not that many high morals but being old fashioned I believe in the one partner at one time policy.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I've never seen sps while i was in a relationship. I simply never felt the need to see an sp if i was dating someone and to be honest i knew i'd feel like a piece of crap if i did. Wait, it might have happened once about 10 years ago, but the only reason i did was because i had been told she was cheating on me. So i suppose it was my way of getting even and to this day i have no regret.

 

[Maria Divina]

There is some circumstances that might explain why someone being in a relationship wants to meet with escorts.

Basically, from start, someone who is meeting escorts doesn't want to stop his relationship.

If a wife, girlfriend isn't able to have sex anymore, that could be by a personal choice or not having anymore desire or because she is sick or even , even dying of a illness.

Another situation is if a gentleman is always working on the road, not being that much at home.

And other time, they are in an open relationship.

In all situations, their SO could know or not it, or approved it but didn't want to have the details.

And yes, there are SO still fully sexual and their partners seeing escorts. I have been plenty explained by one in this situation that he needs variety. And he had: that's not because you adore so much, by example, eating italian that you wouldn't like to have thaï or french from time to time." (I know, that's horrible comparing women and meals, but that was HIS words.)

 

[cloudsurf]

When I was married or in a serious relationship, I never cheated with an escort but I did cheat with regular women including married ones

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

If a wife, girlfriend isn't able to have sex anymore, that could be by a personal choice or not having anymore desire or because she is sick or even , even dying of a illness.

And other time, they are in an open relationship.

I have a friend whose wife can not have sex anymore, he sees escorts and he figures his wife knows but no one says anything and all is good with them.
For the open marriage it is the third line of my post..... Good for you.

 

[jalimon]

When I was married or in a serious relationship, I never cheated with an escort but I did cheat with regular women including married ones

But that's the same no? It's an interesting question actually, subject for another thread!

Cheers,

 

[Maria Divina]

I'm sorry, STN, I am having a question for so long, and you gave me the opportunity to ask for it. This is related, but with a little twist.

I have always been curious, when this subject reappear, if this question of old fashion to be in a couple and not having fun & meeting others,

would be still view the same if your SO appear to be an Sp herself? (escort, massage, dancer etc)

Would you be faithful the same understanding that "she is working" ?

 

[Passionné]

Girlfriends have been off and on. What you might call serious girlfriends are rarer. I back off all of this escort stuff when there is someone "real" around. Having someone real is much more satisfying than seeing escorts can ever be. I don't cheat on anyone I'm in a relationship with and I expect the same in return.

If I am seeing an escort somewhat beyond normal business (happened once) I don't consider her a girlfriend unless she is out of the business. That is something in between, not a girlfriend, where faithfulness is not part of the relationship. It may not be what I want but I do not invest all of myself in that kind of situation where she is choosing not to either. Not that emotions can be completely controlled, but emotions can be limited when the other person is limiting theirs and their relationship.

I would give everything I have to be able to spend another day with her, but cancer ended that a couple of years ago, and somehow I still feel guilty about seeing another woman.

That's got to be about as devastating as the gentlemen suffering because his mother has Alzheimer's. Either way you're losing so much you can cherish between two people.

 

[randolph]

I think it is possible to be in a long relationship with someone where everything is terrific (mood, common interests, same values etc etc)...except the sex. That's my situation. So I turn to escorts. I guess I'm an unusual case, but girlfriends whom I've had have all not been into sex or just plain bad at it (meaning passive, one position, no initiative, no kiss etc) despite the "guidance" that I might provide. For that reason I've never quite understood the expression gfe. For me, real life gfe is pretty bland. The ones who know what they're doing are (the good) SPs, but unfortunately the emotional link isn't there. But at least we can pretend.

 

[jalimon]

I wanted to write that I waited to be separated, but it's not true! I saw one and I got caught on the very first SP I saw! Got to say I was a bit careless at that point Separation was the obvious path as it was already in discussion. Now we are both very happy with our lfie and our kids. But she does not know I am seeing SP and I do not do incall for the same reason. As long as my kids are not in their teens I will avoid having regular girlfriend and will only see escort.

Cheers,

p.s. to those out there who see escort while being married or in a relationnship, read EB's post carefully because he is right. It's like riding a bicycle, it's not a matter of if you will ever fall, it's a matter of when.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I'm sorry, STN, I am having a question for so long, and you gave me the opportunity to ask for it. This is related, but with a little twist.

I have always been curious, when this subject reappear, if this question of old fashion to be in a couple and not having fun & meeting others,

would be still view the same if your SO appear to be an Sp herself? (escort, massage, dancer etc)

Would you be faithful the same understanding that "she is working" ?

Personally I could not see/date a SP who is still working.

 

[oobe]

It's like riding a bicycle, it's not a matter of if you will ever fall, it's a matter of when.

As a bicycle rider, I take offence at that comment!

 

[jalimon]

As a bicycle rider, I take offence at that comment!

Your kidding right?

Cheers,

 

[VictoriaJolie]

From the clientèle i met :90% are married or in a serious relationship..While they love their partners...Some have circumstances where sex isn't existant, others aren't just the monogamy type...I have many men where their wifes is aware they see escorts..Sometime they join sometime not.Some of them pay for the session as a gift to please their husbands on an activity they like(greek) and isn't offer.

 

[cloudsurf]

Many years ago my hairdresser at the time told me that for her husbands 30th birthday she was offering to buy him an escort for an hour and she planned to watch them having fun. At the time I thought the idea was weird....but now I realize that it was pure love.

 

[Mtdl]

My wife and I both love women. I mainly see escorts to set up threesomes. It satisfies my need for variety, her love of women and it spices up our sex life. She enjoys watching as well.

 

[Maria Divina]

If I am seeing an escort somewhat beyond normal business (happened once) I don't consider her a girlfriend unless she is out of the business. That is something in between, not a girlfriend, where faithfulness is not part of the relationship. It may not be what I want but I do not invest all of myself in that kind of situation where she is choosing not to either. Not that emotions can be completely controlled, but emotions can be limited when the other person is limiting theirs and their relationship.

Personally I could not see/date a SP who is still working.

Merci, thank you messieurs for your honesty.

To say totally the truth, I was asking that question to show to all Sp's who will read that post,
how we are seen, even from the men participating in our industry, related to our possibility to find really true love while doing our activities

Passionné, I just put in bold a very important part. And you weren't the first to tell it, don't worry.

That's years that I know that for a lots of people, even if they are themselves indulging meeting escorts/masseuse/dancers.... in their sights Sp's don't deserve real committed love because how they are earning a living. They are not taken seriously as loveable person to be committed to because, as it looks, men aren't able to make the difference between being sexy for earning a living reasons and being in love and having affairs on the side for purely personal fun.

Ok, so, permit me to push a bit further the thinking putting a fictional situation:

So, imagine you meet a Sp, not during an encounter, but in your day to day life. It appears that after a time, when the things are getting a bit more serious between you and her, she decided to tell you that she is sp'ing (Whatever it is: escort, massage, dancing... -and she did not tell you before because, she was waiting to see if you weren't still another ordinary guy "de passage", someone there for just a couple of months) and you tell her that she has to stop for you to really believe that she is committed to you. Ok, fine, she does accept because she does love you. But after what will happen? Her income won't be the same, and I imagine you will have to help her, because you are committed and you will support her financial unbalance then, right?
(I would be curious to know if really a man could do that in 2016 for a woman he loves)

Putting it on the other side: Did you ever have to stop working a certain job because your new lover is asking it to you for you to prove to her that you are really into her and she will accept to be fully committed to you then after you sacrifice this work for her? Is this reverse role even possible?

PLEASE note that I also said that just to make you understand that your "true committed love" is really expensive for a Sp. Money and independence in life all together.

And in another hand, I never believe (and I am not the only one) that someone who is actively looking to have a relationship with a Sp (and yes, I and other girls have received emails for this purpose) , couldn't be interesting by the money gain OR much more to live a kind of fantasy to date a "sex pro". Promoting "love" to have "sex" isn't new on earth. That's probably the oldest trick men are using to get sex.

So maybe the conclusion to have is Sp's are condemned to be much less found to be truly and fully loveable humans when their activities are known.


So the question remaining is: if a Sp wants to have chances to be considered as a totally loveable person without extreme conditions, will she just have to shut up on her activities?

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Sorry to have a bit put a twist in your discussions because the topic is about 'In a serious relationship / good marriage and seeing SP's.",
but we see that serious relationship/good marriage and Sp'ing aren't an easy "marriage" to make publicly, that's probably one of the last major taboo, even surprisingly for the men indulging in the sex industry.

Like Victoria has stated, 90% of her clientele is in serious relationship, and mine too, and when I talked to others, that's the same proportion. I even used to say 95%.
So, the singles are quite rare in the industry. I will repeat an important thing I already said in my first post in this thread:

Men committed that are seeing escorts want to stay and more than often want to keep their relationships.

So, in fact, as surprising for some it might be, this all industry is helping a lot of relationships to stand because it provides to men often what it is looking to miss in their relationship or in their lives.

That's long time I realized it, and it changed totally my woman's sight on "cheating" if ever my eventual partner of life would choose between "cheating" with a Sp or with a woman he's having strings with.
That's totally 2 different kinds of situation, and one is having more chances that he will probably still be loving me and wants to stay with me.

Sadly in reality, Sp'ing is such badly seen in our society that women will be just more insulted if they learned that their partners are indulging, even if we are the less dangerous to put pression on their SO to break their marriage/relationship.

Ok, now time for my coffee. ound: Sorry if that was redondant, I just woke up and write it in one shot.

PS: and don't worry, I'm awared there are few exceptions and some Sp's are in couple and very happy with a lovely husband/partner, fully knowing what they are doing and supporting it.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Just to make myself clear, I could not date a working SP but I would have no issue dating one that has retired.

 

[jalimon]

That's years that I know that for a lots of people, even if they are themselves indulging meeting escorts/masseuse/dancers.... in their sights Sp's don't deserve real committed love because how they are earning a living. They are not taken seriously as loveable person to be committed to because, as it looks, men aren't able to make the difference between being sexy for earning a living reasons and being in love and having affairs on the side for purely personal fun.

We do see the difference. Maybe I am too just an old school (jesus I am only 45) but there is no way I could let my girlfriend be an SP. Sorry to say that so frankly. I may not agree with the way you wrote it, you are still correct.

because you are committed and you will support her financial unbalance then, right?
(I would be curious to know if really a man could do that in 2016 for a woman he loves)

Absolutely. When you love you don't count!

So the question remaining is: if a Sp wants to have chances to be considered as a totally loveable person without extreme conditions, will she just have to shut up on her activities?

For me, still a yes. Sorry but it's the thruth. It does happens in all businesses. Someone gets a remote jobs and the other half follows, shutting down all he/she was doing. Not that different.

That's long time I realized it, and it changed totally my woman's sight on "cheating" if ever my eventual partner of life would choose between "cheating" with a Sp or with a woman he's having strings with.
That's totally 2 different kinds of situation, and one is having more chances that he will probably still be loving me and wants to stay with me.

I asked that question here. It's a good one. I do not know if it's really different judging by the shit I got when my ex caught me But I do agree with one thing, SP probably saves more marriage/union then it breaks.

Ok, now time for my coffee. ound: Sorry if that was redondant, I just woke up and write it in one shot.

You are very interesting to read here. I like you a lot

Cheers,

 

[Mtdl]

Merci, thank you messieurs for your honesty.



That's years that I know that for a lots of people, even if they are themselves indulging meeting escorts/masseuse/dancers.... in their sights Sp's don't deserve real committed love because how they are earning a living. They are not taken seriously as loveable person to be committed to because, as it looks, men aren't able to make the difference between being sexy for earning a living reasons and being in love and having affairs on the side for purely personal fun.

Most men don't want promiscuous women as partners. You have an uncommon job and this is the sacrifice you make. Wealth in exchange for a difficult love (and social) life.

And in another hand, I never believe (and I am not the only one) that someone who is actively looking to have a relationship with a Sp (and yes, I and other girls have received emails for this purpose) , couldn't be interesting by the money gain OR much more to live a kind of fantasy to date a "sex pro". Promoting "love" to have "sex" isn't new on earth. That's probably the oldest trick men are using to get sex.

That's long time I realized it, and it changed totally my woman's sight on "cheating" if ever my eventual partner of life would choose between "cheating" with a Sp or with a woman he's having strings with.
That's totally 2 different kinds of situation, and one is having more chances that he will probably still be loving me and wants to stay with me.

Sadly in reality, Sp'ing is such badly seen in our society that women will be just more insulted if they learned that their partners are indulging, even if we are the less dangerous to put pression on their SO to break their marriage/relationship.

Escorts are also promoting love to get sex. The GFE experience is pretty much simulated love. Generally, men and women are very different when it comes to cheating. Men are disgusted by the physical aspect of it mostly. Unless you're a cuckold fetichist, imagining another man touching your wife is intolerable to most men. For most women, it seems to be their place which is most important. What I mean by this, a woman wants to be the first one in your life, the one you cherish the most. My own wife for instance, loves watching me with other escorts, but the thought of me having a mistress on the side is intolerable for her. She doesn't want me to love another woman, but doesn't mind me having sexual pleasure with another one. She knows there's no risk with escorts.

I agree that it is sad how escorts are regarded in our society. You have an important role and you are such good company. We can blame this on our christian roots.