In your own words: What’s considered a high end SP?

[Fradi]

Higher education and versed in many interests and keen business sense. Making them able to engage in stimulating conversations on any topic with anyone.

Right most men see high end escorts for their high end education and stimulating conversation just like they read Playboy for the intellectual insight of the articles.
High end is simply a marketing tool for a great looking escort to charge outrages prices and the only thing more pretentious is a wealthy man’s ego that he is getting something extra special because he can afford to pay those prices.

 

[LC18]

It would seem kind of ridiculous for her to host out of a dump and market herself as high end.

I saw on Twitter a woman who was marketing herself as high end saying she was hosting of a lower end hotel. Everything is possible, it’s just marketing.

 

[CuriousGent]

Right most men see high end escorts for their high end education and stimulating conversation just like they read Playboy for the intellectual insight of the articles.
High end is simply a marketing tool for a great looking escort to charge outrages prices and the only thing more pretentious is a wealthy man’s ego that he is getting something extra special because he can afford to pay those prices.

I agree and disagree in the sense that a man won't see an escort for business advice, but as you say a wealthy man's ego will not be stroked if the SP can't understand what he is talking about when they have a conversation. I don't think it's ment to say she needs a masters or PHD but just being aware of currents and what is going on can make a big difference in the type of conversations two people can have. You mention your ATF and I am sure she got to be your ATF because outside of penetrative sex there is some form of chemistry and complicity.

 

[Fradi]

I saw on Twitter a woman who was marketing herself as high end saying she was hosting of a lower end hotel. Everything is possible, it’s just marketing.

Anybody can say and market themselves as they wish.
The lady marketing herself as a high end escort and is hosting out of a lower end hotel is both a dumb and cheap ass. and has no idea what men imagine and want a high class escort to be.
A wealthy man’s ego will not allow him to see a supposed high class escort in a lower end hotel the two just don’t mix.
Just like a wealthy man will not drive his peers around in a Kia or park one on his drive way.

 

[Fradi]

I agree and disagree in the sense that a man won't see an escort for business advice, but as you say a wealthy man's ego will not be stroked if the SP can't understand what he is talking about when they have a conversation. I don't think it's ment to say she needs a masters or PHD but just being aware of currents and what is going on can make a big difference in the type of conversations two people can have. You mention your ATF and I am sure she got to be your ATF because outside of penetrative sex there is some form of chemistry and complicity.

Of course a wealthy or most men want to see an escort that they can have an interesting and intelligent conversation with but that is not the primary reason for seeing one it is always that he thinks he is getting something extra special beyond the reach of the ordinary man.
As far as my ATF she is in my eyes the most gorgeous escort I could possibly see and certainly the kindest and most thoughtful and if I was anywhere near her age and not a realist she would be in serious trouble. As it is I just consider myself extremely lucky to have her in my life and to be able to see her.

 

[Sylar]

Right most men see high end escorts for their high end education and stimulating conversation just like they read Playboy for the intellectual insight of the articles.
High end is simply a marketing tool for a great looking escort to charge outrages prices and the only thing more pretentious is a wealthy man’s ego that he is getting something extra special because he can afford to pay those prices.

I see your point, but I don't think it would only be to stroke one's ego.
There was a recent thread on the forum about a client considering taking an SP to an all inclusive resort. I am not sure it was fully thought out, but that is beyond the point. If I put myself in his shoes I would only consider a SP that is well educated, and who is able to converse on a multitude of different topics. Looking like a Victoria's Secret model and being great at sex will make me happy for a few hours in the day. What about the remainder of the time we will spend together?

 

[Fradi]

I see your point, but I don't think it would only be to stroke one's ego.
There was a recent thread on the forum about a client considering taking an SP to an all inclusive resort. I am not sure it was fully thought out, but that is beyond the point. If I put myself in his shoes I would only consider a SP that is well educated, and who is able to converse on a multitude of different topics. Looking like a Victoria's Secret model and being great at sex will make me happy for a few hours in the day. What about the remainder of the time we will spend together?

I agree with you but I think you are confusing the issue.
Very few times are men out in public with the escorts they see. Wealthy men probably even less as they have more to lose. There are even fewer that will take her on a vacation.
With the really wealthy it is mostly about the ego and privilege.
Now luckily I would think many times a high end escort can meet all the criteria you are looking for.

Strange that you brought up the issue as I would be proud to have my ATF on a vacation with me or anywhere whether as an escort or just a friend she is not only well educated but always looks like she just stepped out of a fashion magazine and yet she never advertised herself as a high end escort but what she always was the ultimate girlfriend experience.

 

[CLOUD 500]

To me a high end SP is one with high rates, above market range. It all comes down to marketing. She marketed herself that way. A high end escort does not advertise on Leolist type of sites. She would have her own website and also have an online presence on Twitter. Higher rates does not mean better performance or better looks. However she would definitely take good care of herself, nails and hair. The experience would also be the difference between fast food and a high end restaurant.

 

[Sylar]

I agree with you but I think you are confusing the issue.
Very few times are men out in public with the escorts they see. Wealthy men probably even less as they have more to lose. There are even fewer that will take her on a vacation.
With the really wealthy it is mostly about the ego and privilege.
Now luckily I would think many times a high end escort can meet all the criteria you are looking for.

Strange that you brought up the issue as I would be proud to have my ATF on a vacation with me or anywhere whether as an escort or just a friend she is not only well educated but always looks like she just stepped out of a fashion magazine and yet she never advertised herself as a high end escort but what she always was the ultimate girlfriend experience.

I think it depends on the age of the client and what kind of industry they work in. Based on what you have shared on the forum I do not think you would fall into that category, and neither do I.

And don't get me wrong, I am having this conversation and playing a devil's advocate for the sake of it. I am nowhere wealthy enough to book a high-end escort for a vacation. And even if I did have that kind of money, I would find better way to spend it.
Now in the case of your ATF, have you gone on a vacation together? If that's too personal just ignore the question but I am curious.

 

[Fradi]

I think it depends on the age of the client and what kind of industry they work in. Based on what you have shared on the forum I do not think you would fall into that category, and neither do I.

And don't get me wrong, I am having this conversation and playing a devil's advocate for the sake of it. I am nowhere wealthy enough to book a high-end escort for a vacation. And even if I did have that kind of money, I would find better way to spend it.
Now in the case of your ATF, have you gone on a vacation together? If that's too personal just ignore the question but I am curious.

I guess neither of us is in that category of being wealthy. Perhaps comfortable and still needing to have a budget is more appropriate.
No I have not gone on a vacation with her but I would be proud and happy to take her she is a dear friend not just a companion, someone who has made my life so much better in ways that cannot really be compensated just with $$$$.

 

[Sylar]

I guess neither of us is in that category of being wealthy. Perhaps comfortable and still needing to have a budget is more appropriate.
No I have not gone on a vacation with her but I would be proud and happy to take her she is a dear friend not just a companion, someone who has made my life so much better in ways that cannot really be compensated just with $$$$.

Yes, that is very accurate.
I guess you perhaps have something to plan and look forward to if you decide to go that route. I wish you all the best if you decide to propose this to her.

 

[marky mark]

This is just me and my distaste for tattoos but having more ink than an MS-13 gang member kinda disqualifies an SP from calling herself "high end".

 

[AlmostMidaged]

For Montreal pre-Covid rates I’d say like $500 an hour, provides the services actually noted (even if not listed), some degree of prestige (whether accolades or marketing), and hot as all. That’s it. And I guess if you like dinner dates, it means she can blend or carry herself anywhere.

 

[Fradi]

This is just me and my distaste for tattoos but having more ink than an MS-13 gang member kinda disqualifies an SP from calling herself "high end".

There are many porn stars that also double as high end escorts that are tattooed to the wazoo who would probably disagree with you lol.
I am not really a fan of tattoos either but it is not a determining factor I see one young lady who has many and she is a total sweetheart.
i don’t even notice the tattoos on her anymore her personality and kindness is what I see.

 

[LC18]

There are many porn stars that also double as high end escorts that are tattooed to the wazoo who would probably disagree with you lol.

To each their own. Clearly after reading this thread, I can tell what’s a high end for you isn’t a high end SP for the next guy.

 

[AirBo]

A high end escort doesn't have hourly rates

A high end escort is hired mostly for social time and, to a certain degree, show off.

A high end escort doesn't provide better or more sex, but a high end escort doesn't see more than a client a day.

 

[Fradi]

To each their own. Clearly after reading this thread, I can tell what’s a high end for you isn’t a high end SP for the next guy.

That is not surprising we are all different and want different things in life that make us happy.
Personally I think that is how life should be. It doesn’t mean one is wrong and the other is right it is always all about the choices we make.and the consequences that come with those choices.

 

[AirBo]

To each their own. Clearly after reading this thread, I can tell what’s a high end for you isn’t a high end SP for the next guy.

I love this thread of course everyone has his/her own opinion of what a high end escort is

 

[marky mark]

Indeed a great many escorts with a remarkable amount of ink are extremely successful and I do not want to disparage them in any way.
But the question was what makes an SP "high end".
To my thinking "high end" would refer to an SP who can easily present herself publicly at any high profile social event looking glamorous without calling attention to her profession.
Heavily inked women call attention to themselves in a way that might be unwelcome in some social situations, and they can also be stigmatized. Wrongly of course.
Not the same as "high priced" (as noted, inked SPs are making bank, thank you very much) the category of "high end" is more about a cultivated look that enables them to appear socially without calling unwanted attention to themselves.
Although I personally don't like tattoos, I respect those who do choose this form of self expression.
By my definition "high end" refers to glamorous while still remaining inconspicuous.

 

[marky mark]

There are many porn stars that also double as high end escorts that are tattooed to the wazoo who would probably disagree with you lol.
I am not really a fan of tattoos either but it is not a determining factor I see one young lady who has many and she is a total sweetheart.
i don’t even notice the tattoos on her anymore her personality and kindness is what I see.

My ATF had (and probably still has) a bunch of tattoos as well, and it didn't bother me in the least. Total sweetheart and the funniest girl I've ever met (not to mention sexiest!!!).
But the question was definition of "high end". Tried to clarify it in the above post.