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There is a risk, lower of course than other sex activities but still... Personnaly as I am in relation, I yet always resist to do both but damn it would be much more fun mmm so tempting but you have to consider can transmit its and be tested if you do daty and bbbj.
 

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Do clients and SPs exchange test results before a session? Is that considered rude to ask? I always wear a condom but I enjoy bbbj and daty. I just would like to see recent results before partaking.
 

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Do clients and SPs exchange test results before a session? Is that considered rude to ask? I always wear a condom but I enjoy bbbj and daty. I just would like to see recent results before partaking.
Test results aren't reliable as you think they are in the sense that if you got something right before or around the test it may not show up. I don't think it's reasonable to ask for test results personally. We also can't get tested every week and showing test results without revealing your real name is hard. You can easily fake it too. I wouldn't trust a random test result without a name personally.

I think it's more the attitude around sexual health that needs to change. If you are worried about STI don't ask for bbbj and daty or at least get tested often. Its everyone's responsibility to do this.
 

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I don't ask for tests. Like Luna said, it's highly private information, easy to fake and not that reliable in the first place. If you're super concerned either don't do it or take your own precautions with things like DoxyPEP.
 
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I don't ask for tests. Like Luna said, it's highly private information, easy to fake and not that reliable in the first place. If you're super concerned either don't do it or take your own precautions with things like DoxyPEP.
DoxyPEP is also an interesting alternative of you want to be sure you're fine and you're not a frequent consumer of escort services. For those who are self proclaimed "hobbyists" and insist on daty and bbbj I highly recommend you get tested every month or every 2 months. It's the compassionate thing to do, for yourself and for everyone else.
 

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I once asked a girl I was seeing for her STD tests results and she kicked me out of her place.
 

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I once asked a girl I was seeing for her STD tests results and she kicked me out of her place.
I would be really upset if someone asked me that as well. It's just rude. I've never asked anybody for their test results.. just go get tested yourself???
 

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The way I see it is if you're having sex with strangers regularly you have to assume you're going to be exposed at some point. The smart thing to do is manage your own risk by getting tested regularly. Someone can be recently tested and still give you chlamydia.

The only scenario where sharing test results would make sense to me is if I were starting a monogamous relationship with someone and we did it as a peace of mind thing at the beginning. Otherwise it just gives the illusion of safety.
 
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I’ve always been curious to know if SPs that only have sex with heterosexual men or heterosexual women take PrEP for HIV on a regular basis, meaning during all the period of their lives they are offering services. BTW, I’ve only mentioned those two types of clients as PrEP is usually taken by men or trans woman having anal sex with other men or trans women. But as an SP, you can never know with who your client could have had sex with, every group having different risk factors, so in my view, taking PrEP would be a prudent thing to do. But all this is only an assumption on my part, that’s why I’m asking the question.

BTW, I really enjoy DATY and would find sex a bit boring without it and using a dental dam to reduce the risk is not something I’m willing to do as it would take away all the enjoyment of doing that. Even DFK exposes you to catching something, even if just a cold or the flu, both of which are not fun and easy to catch in regular daily activities, but of course have less of a health risk than other things you could catch while doing that, even if the risk is smaller.

As far as HPV, there is no diagnostic test for men, like a PAP smear for women and even if your body usually takes care of it by itself in a few weeks or months, genital warts come in all kinds of shapes and sizes and can be very difficult sometimes to detect or notice. They CAN look like something unusual and in that case, can be detected « easily », but sometimes it can look like a beauty mark or just a harmless shaving bump. Also, in the heat of the moment, you’re not paying attention to every little « defect » on your partner’s skin and can easily miss something that a condom will never protect you from if the « bump » in anywhere else than on the part of the penis that’s covered by a condom. Finally, I don’t think anyone is performing a genital exam before having sex as it would be rude and would kill the mood for sure.

I admit I don’t get tested as often as I should, but I don’t partake in this « hobby » very often and I’m willing to accept the risk that comes with it, although that doesn’t mean I don’t care about transmitting something to an SP I’m seeing, not in the slightest. But I do inspect my own body often to make sure everything is ok down there and always use condoms unless I’m in a committed relationship and birth control is taken care of by other means.

On more thing… I’ve recently seen that some SPs are advertising bareback services and are charging more for that service, which makes me not want to use their services since they are more of a risk. I won’t judge their decision to offer this service, but I just don’t get why they do offer it since they’re exposing themselves to a higher risk. Is money the only deciding factor in this ? I’ve seen ads where the cost is double the regular rate, but I’ve also seen « only » 100$ more : your health is worth more than 100$ in my view, not that any amount is worth your health. Maybe they just like the feeling of bareback sex ? That would make kind of a sense as it’s so much better, for me at least. Or it’s just marketing to attract more clients that look for that kind of service ?

Sorry for the long post, but I’ve been thinking about all this for a while and all of it just came out in this post. As far as MERB not being a « good » place for such a topic, I disagree as the people on this forum partake in what I would think more sex than the average person and surely with many more different partners, so their habits and lifestyles make them a good source of general information, although they will never replace medical advice. They can however share their experiences and give good advice on what works for them… you can choose to take that advice or not, but it’s stil info from « the horse’s mouth » that’s hard to get anywhere else.

Lastly, Luna, I have to thank you for taking part of this conversation and sharing your experience with everyone, I’m sure we can all benefit from it .
 

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One more thing I forgot to mention…

A couple of years ago, I met a well known SP for the first time and turns out I was really her type and we had great chemistry right from the get go. Things started quickly and by the time we were both naked and grinding on each other with her on top of me, she started rubbing her pussy on my dick, which I was very surprised about and didn’t have the will to tell her to stop as we were having to much of a good time and my « little brain » won the fight with my real brain. But then, she just inserted me in her and started riding me. I was in shock and didn’t now how to react. At that moment, I was more worried of getting her pregnant than catching something. Again, my dick won the fight and I just let it happen. It was a great session but I felt really guilty afterwards and got tested soon after that and was negative.

What the weirdest thing about this was that after we finished, I asked her if that was something she did on a regular basis and she said no, that she was just in the mood to do that and that after seeing who I was, that « she trusted me to be clean ». She was beautiful and like I said, we had a wonderful time together, partly because we really clicked, but maybe also because it was such a long time ago that I had sex without a condom before and it felt amazing. Anyhow, I’ve never seen her again, even though she still advertises here from time to time and I think I’d have great sex with her again, but that experience made me uneasy with what she does and I don’t want to put myself more at risk.

And before anyone says it, yes, I could have stood my ground an insisted on wearing a condom, but at that time, my will was 0/100. But I know I consciously made that decision, will power nonwithstanding.
 

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I’ve always been curious to know if SPs that only have sex with heterosexual men or heterosexual women take PrEP for HIV on a regular basis, meaning during all the period of their lives they are offering services. BTW, I’ve only mentioned those two types of clients as PrEP is usually taken by men or trans woman having anal sex with other men or trans women. But as an SP, you can never know with who your client could have had sex with, every group having different risk factors, so in my view, taking PrEP would be a prudent thing to do. But all this is only an assumption on my part, that’s why I’m asking the question.

BTW, I really enjoy DATY and would find sex a bit boring without it and using a dental dam to reduce the risk is not something I’m willing to do as it would take away all the enjoyment of doing that. Even DFK exposes you to catching something, even if just a cold or the flu, both of which are not fun and easy to catch in regular daily activities, but of course have less of a health risk than other things you could catch while doing that, even if the risk is smaller.

As far as HPV, there is no diagnostic test for men, like a PAP smear for women and even if your body usually takes care of it by itself in a few weeks or months, genital warts come in all kinds of shapes and sizes and can be very difficult sometimes to detect or notice. They CAN look like something unusual and in that case, can be detected « easily », but sometimes it can look like a beauty mark or just a harmless shaving bump. Also, in the heat of the moment, you’re not paying attention to every little « defect » on your partner’s skin and can easily miss something that a condom will never protect you from if the « bump » in anywhere else than on the part of the penis that’s covered by a condom. Finally, I don’t think anyone is performing a genital exam before having sex as it would be rude and would kill the mood for sure.

I admit I don’t get tested as often as I should, but I don’t partake in this « hobby » very often and I’m willing to accept the risk that comes with it, although that doesn’t mean I don’t care about transmitting something to an SP I’m seeing, not in the slightest. But I do inspect my own body often to make sure everything is ok down there and always use condoms unless I’m in a committed relationship and birth control is taken care of by other means.

On more thing… I’ve recently seen that some SPs are advertising bareback services and are charging more for that service, which makes me not want to use their services since they are more of a risk. I won’t judge their decision to offer this service, but I just don’t get why they do offer it since they’re exposing themselves to a higher risk. Is money the only deciding factor in this ? I’ve seen ads where the cost is double the regular rate, but I’ve also seen « only » 100$ more : your health is worth more than 100$ in my view, not that any amount is worth your health. Maybe they just like the feeling of bareback sex ? That would make kind of a sense as it’s so much better, for me at least. Or it’s just marketing to attract more clients that look for that kind of service ?

Sorry for the long post, but I’ve been thinking about all this for a while and all of it just came out in this post. As far as MERB not being a « good » place for such a topic, I disagree as the people on this forum partake in what I would think more sex than the average person and surely with many more different partners, so their habits and lifestyles make them a good source of general information, although they will never replace medical advice. They can however share their experiences and give good advice on what works for them… you can choose to take that advice or not, but it’s stil info from « the horse’s mouth » that’s hard to get anywhere else.

Lastly, Luna, I have to thank you for taking part of this conversation and sharing your experience with everyone, I’m sure we can all benefit from it .
Im glad you liked my interventions. I am on injectable prep personally but it has side effects that I really dislike. I think yes Merb has the potential to be a good place for this type of exchange but a lot of people are ignorant of the risks. The most common STI are chlamydia, gonorrhea and HPV from what I've noticed...

I participated in this thread because apparently at some point someone gave me HPV, no idea when, a dangerous strain of it. From what I understand it was a long time ago and I don't have it anymore and I got my final dose of the vaccine so it's not likely I'll contract it again... But I had precancerous cells and had to get them "burned off" hence why I couldn't offer GFE for a month.. it's frustrating that I could have had cancer because of this. HPV clears by itself but women are a lot more likely to have a bad surprise because of it, it holds on to the cervix. HPV is really really common and most people have had it at some point, but it can cause harm occasionally.

The treatment wasn't painful for me (thankfully because some women I know shared that they endured horrible pain) but overall the experience was really traumatic. I take good care of my health and I want to offer a good service, but it's frustrating that the risks are not perceived by clients. I just want clients to think about this. I didn't contract this because of bbbj, probably because of daty or someone who stealthed me at some point. I know this isn't a fun discussion to have but I hope this gives you something to think about..

I'm not saying stop booking GFE services.. just be aware of the risks particularly when you partake very often.
 
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One more thing I forgot to mention…

A couple of years ago, I met a well known SP for the first time and turns out I was really her type and we had great chemistry right from the get go. Things started quickly and by the time we were both naked and grinding on each other with her on top of me, she started rubbing her pussy on my dick, which I was very surprised about and didn’t have the will to tell her to stop as we were having to much of a good time and my « little brain » won the fight with my real brain. But then, she just inserted me in her and started riding me. I was in shock and didn’t now how to react. At that moment, I was more worried of getting her pregnant than catching something. Again, my dick won the fight and I just let it happen. It was a great session but I felt really guilty afterwards and got tested soon after that and was negative.

What the weirdest thing about this was that after we finished, I asked her if that was something she did on a regular basis and she said no, that she was just in the mood to do that and that after seeing who I was, that « she trusted me to be clean ». She was beautiful and like I said, we had a wonderful time together, partly because we really clicked, but maybe also because it was such a long time ago that I had sex without a condom before and it felt amazing. Anyhow, I’ve never seen her again, even though she still advertises here from time to time and I think I’d have great sex with her again, but that experience made me uneasy with what she does and I don’t want to put myself more at risk.

And before anyone says it, yes, I could have stood my ground an insisted on wearing a condom, but at that time, my will was 0/100. But I know I consciously made that decision, will power nonwithstanding.
I don't think the way this SP behaved is ethical... But when you say "my dick won the fight" it just sounds like you don't want to take accountability. You could have stopped and said no... Unless you feel like you were assaulted by her but it's not what this sounds like. A while ago i've had clients hold me down and try to penetrate me without a condom before and I had to physically push them away. I understand we all make mistakes but let's take accountability here..
 

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I don't think the way this SP behaved is ethical... But when you say "my dick won the fight" it just sounds like you don't want to take accountability. You could have stopped and said no... Unless you feel like you were assaulted by her but it's not what this sounds like. A while ago i've had clients hold me down and try to penetrate me without a condom before and I had to physically push them away. I understand we all make mistakes but let's take accountability here..
Oh I’m totally aware that I let it happen, no one forced me. It was a bad decision on my part in a moment of weakness. I take full responsability for not stopping and putting on protection.

BTW, just looked at your ad again (« again » because I’ve wanted to meet you for such a long time), love the longer hair and those new pictures at the start of your ad, I’ve never seen you more beautiful . But I have to admit que j’ai un gros faible pour les talons hauts et avec ta silhouette mince et tes belles jambes, combinés à ton visage angélique, mon dieu que tu es belle ! Quand tu pourras offrir le GFE à nouveau, il faudra qu’on se rencontre, j’ai assez (trop) attendu ☺️
 
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Oh I’m totally aware that I let it happen, no one forced me. It was a bad decision on my part in a moment of weakness. I take full responsability for not stopping and putting on protection.

BTW, just looked at your ad again (« again » because I’ve wanted to meet you for such a long time), love the longer hair and those new pictures at the start of your ad, I’ve never seen you more beautiful . But I have to admit que j’ai un gros faible pour les talons hauts et avec ta silhouette mince et tes belles jambes, combinés à ton visage angélique, mon dieu que tu es belle ! Quand tu pourras offrir le GFE à nouveau, il faudra qu’on se rencontre, j’ai assez (trop) attendu ☺️
À partir de la fds prochaine ;)
 
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