"It's Extra for DATY."...Really?

[HughJorgen]

I recently contacted an SP and asked her about the kind of experiences she was offering. I was also sure to ask about some of my favorite activities which include DATY and DATO. Anyway, when she responded she indicated that she does not accept the receiving of DATO (which is fine...I know it's not for everyone and can seem a little too kinky). But she also indicated that DATY was an extra service and is an add-on to the base rate. I have never known an SP who saw DATY as something other than part of a standard intimate experience. And to be quite honest, it seems most SPs really welcome receiving this kind of pleasure.

Maybe someone can offer some insights into why she made this decision. I am not saying it's stupid or wrong, but I want to understand it. Maybe there is something to it that I have not considered.

 

[jjsanti]

Because some people are willing to pay for it.

 

[jalimon]

The indy world is a jungle!!! Anyone can advertise the fuck they want and not deliver. Few stands out. Got to find and stick to them.

It also depends on your willingness. Some SP I went back even if they were not good and refused just about everything on first meet up. Why I went back? Because they were absolutely beautiful!! Few of them opened up and on second, third and even more encounters and restrictions were lift and all was available. At some point it's them calling you to go see them. Jungle I said?

Cheers,

 

[Steve.]

I called one sp not more then 3 months ago that was advertising full GFE included 200, so I asked her if she had any restrictions and she said no anal, no cim, no dfk, no deepthroat, no bbbj, no daty, and absolutly no 69.
Then I asked her why do you advertise "full GFE" if you don't do it... She replied that was her to deside what kind of service she was willing to offer.
I don't understand, if she is not offering any services she is probably not in the right buisness.

Steve

 

[jalimon]

What’s left ... ??? ...

Paying her

 

[EagerBeaver]

Because some people are willing to pay for it.

That’s exactly it. It’s simply a market rate decision. Of course, the client is free to decide to see someone else who includes DATY, or else he can pay the extra. She is not required to sell dinner at her pussy for free. She is seller and seller gets to sell what she wishes, to whom and at what price. You can bitch and moan, or move on to the next girl. Nothing more really needs to be said on this.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Hard to figure charging extra for DATY ( I assume most ladies like it ), it would be the same as a male escort charging extra for a client to suck his dick, and we alll onow that will never happen.
Either she does not like it but will do it for money, or she just likes to up sell extras.

 

[cloudsurf]

My ATF from years ago had different service for Montreal and the States.
Here she was safe GFE with kissing, and DATY YMMV, but not extra.
In the States everything was not only YMMV but all services like kissing, DATY and Multiple SOGS were extra.
Those dumb Americans were lining up to see her because she was so gorgeous. Her Reviews on TER where nines and tens, not for her service but for her looks and personality

 

[sromahn24]

Look, this is an unregulated market which means standard definitions for services don't apply to everyone. Full GFE to someone may mean completely different things to another SP. Just be clear with your expectations of what you want and what you're willing to pay for. Then find an SP that offers at that price rate/service. Anything else is worthless to discuss/complain about imo.

 

[heliragedeleted]

What burnt me a few times in the past was the typical exchange, gfe, yes, bbbj, yes etc... you get there, pay up front, then it’s cbj, no gfe etc.
Total waste of time and money. That where merb is so precious, with the reviews and different opinions on SP’s.

 

[anon_vlad]

Refusing DATY or wanting extra payment to allow it can make sense. Some SPs and some civilians have told me that they can only come once every few hours so DATY with consecutive clients or even twice in a session can cause unpleasant stimulation. Others, like Peyton claim to come easily from penetration and say that their clits are too sensitive for DATY. Finally, some don't want to partake in certain activities or even don't want pleasure at all with anybody but their SO.

As long as it's clear in advance, no problem. I agree that refusing any service (sexual, home renovation or anything) after accepting payment for it is deplorable.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Well as long as there is honesty its fine by me. Do i find some pricing vs services ridiculous? Yes absolutely, but its her right to charge what she want. And its my rigth to say "ill pass, thanks for your time"

Personally i stick to merb mostly because to me GFE as we know it (kissing and BBBJ) is like the uber minimum. DATY is also part of those minimums but does not interest me personally. And thanksfully i know with the well reputed agencies i will get them.

That being said tough, if i expect GFE(and i always do) and would be informed it won't be, im sorry but session would be cancelled and i would put this in the same basket as bait and switch. Not in look but in services, so no "cancellation fees". Honestly kissing is so enjoyable. I don't ask for deep tongue in mouth or whatever but just nice sensual kissing. Its what make the session start, both literally (in my pants lol) and figuratively. And i have no interest for a CBJ... Oral is my favorite thing, way more than FS so its super important for me.

But then again thats me and my once every 2-3 months meetings. If i was a rich old man who see 2 SP a week, i would be much more forgivable on services. A bad date wouldn't mean as much. I don't want to compare movies to SPs but it would be a similar feeling. I watch 2 movies a week usually, if i see one that is prety bad it kinda make my night disapointing or very less enjoyable but im like "hey ill just try to watch something better in 3 days" lol. But when you wait 3 months for something and it end up being bad, and you know next one is in 2-3 months ... ouch...

 

[Carmine Falcone]

My ATF from years ago had different service for Montreal and the States.
Here she was safe GFE with kissing, and DATY YMMV, but not extra.
In the States everything was not only YMMV but all services like kissing, DATY and Multiple SOGS were extra.
Those dumb Americans were lining up to see her because she was so gorgeous. Her Reviews on TER where nines and tens, not for her service but for her looks and personality

That's why you should be grateful you live in or close to an area where you have access to wonderful women and service. Your ATF was probably going to a US city with not a lot of quality choices. Smart for her. It varies from place to place in the US. Cities with a more active scene usually have GFE and MSOGs are included. But they were lining up to see her because the one thing a man cannot do without is a woman. But because we don't think with the right head, it also leads to dubious TER reviews. I once booked a lady who had 8s and 9s for appearance and service on TER. Not only did she show up with a large gut that was not in her pictures, but for a midday outcall she wore an short, tight dress (keep the gut in mind) that was obviously screaming "sex worker." Damn TER!

 

[CLOUD 500]

At least the girl was clear as to what her restrictions were and didn’t lie to you, so you were able to save your money and spend it on a girl that offered exactly what you wanted.

Maybe the girl did offer those services, but preferred to secretly offer them to Gentlemen that fell into her personal tastes upon meeting, or to those she had real chemistry with... DFK and DATY with a handsome man with nice lips and teeth, excellent oral/dental health and hygiene, and BBBJ with a nice looking dick, or full GFE to guys she found attractive from head to toe... For some girls, YMMV doesn’t only refer to being clean and respectful.

What you described is by definition of what YMMV is. But you know the sex industry is unregulated and Backpage and the like are like jungles with no standards whatsoever. In addition to being moslty scams many girls use GFE as a marketing term to get calls. Once the guy gets there most are too shy, lack assertiveness, or just need the service more then the girl needs the money so they go with a service that is bait and switch. With that being said this girl was at least straight but if the client never asked he would go in taking her ad at facevalue.

And it isn’t enough to simply ask a girl if she is SGFE, GFE, PSE... These acronyms don’t always mean or include the same from one person to another. It’s best to go into details and avoid misunderstandings and disappointments.

With this I completely agree. Better to be clear. Whenever I do propose take out with a stripper I am very clear with what I want. DFK is mandatory for me so I ask this very directly and to make sure it will be on the menu otherwise I move onto the next one.

 

[CLOUD 500]

As long as it's clear in advance, no problem. I agree that refusing any service (sexual, home renovation or anything) after accepting payment for it is deplorable.

Which is why you never pay upfront... Only do that with a Merb agency with a reputable reputation or a Merb Indy advertiser with a reputable reputation. After all it is your money and you got to make sure to protect it.

 

[Julia Sky]

Which is why you never pay upfront... Only do that with a Merb agency with a reputable reputation or a Merb Indy advertiser with a reputable reputation. After all it is your money and you got to make sure to protect it.

But you should always at least show the money. This makes for a way better session as we also have no idea who you are and if you even have the money or just want to fuck and leave, lol

 

[CLOUD 500]

But you should always at least show the money. This makes for a way better session as we also have no idea who you are and if you even have the money or just want to fuck and leave, lol

Of course for show. Loool But you know all the strippers I had at least the ones that were there to provide me an honest service never even once asked for the money... I had to literally give it to them I remember once a girl left without taking her donation and I ran after her to give it. Loool But this is a bit different as we know each other... I usually will have repeat booth sessions for a month just to get a feel of the girl and we exchange texts... But if it were a girl I do not know then yes I would do it in the way you described... Show her the cash but I want to see the service. Lol

 

[CLOUD 500]

Showing me the money and putting it back in his pocket or wallet isn’t good enough for me. What if he still doesn’t want to pay me at the end?

I rather he gives it to me first, or at least counts it in front of me and puts it in plain sight on the desk.

You make good points... But with so many scam artists that is not good enough for me. Show me the service then I show the money. I always pay... What if the girl and it has already happened to me once she says she will do DFK once she got the money she changed stories. And I read on a weekly basis bad reviews here on Merb about Backpage girls. What protection do we as clients have besides Merb? Seems there is more scam then in the past. I can handle counting it and putting it on a desk... But if she takes it and puts it in her pockets then no way that will happen with me. On Merb the girls got a reputation... But from Backpage we dunno who we are dealing with and the same goes for you if you take a client from a Backpage ad. We reached an impasse. Since there is an impasse I will never deal with a girl from Backpage or book a stripper that has not at least given me DFK in the booths.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I don’t think this makes me money hungry or business oriented. I’m just a smart girl.

I agree that you are and I am a smart client

P.S.: I have already meet you and already took a lapdance with you once and had a great time and you got reputation that confirms your honesty and excellent service... I would not hesitate to pay you upfront. But a girl I do not know from Backpage or a stripper I do not know much... Not going to happen. Lol

 

[CLOUD 500]

She probably advertised GFE to get more calls. I used to do that too, but I always specified what I offered and not, either in my ads or on the phone, so it compensated. I never baited and switched.

Yep that is what I said in one of my posts. Many girls are using GFE as a marketing ploy to get more calls. You are honest but in this business honest girls are rare.

Guys needing the services more than the girls need the money... Sad but true, and even with the song counts at the club. I think some guys need to grow some spine...

Yep for spine. Looool Really quiet pathetic and why the girls keep on doing it.