Licking Pussy

[harwell1690]

Hi all,

I started this thread with a different title. "Giving Head".
Here:
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?177640-Giving-Head-quot-You-go-to-my-head-quot

But I just realized.... Giving Head can sound like it is just the woman giving head to the man, sucking a phallus (ok, choose your word). And actually I meant (in this case)... a man licking a woman's pussy (or all the variations and different words we use for this kind of oral). Sucking Dick is a fine art too (thanks much to you ladies who are so good at it!!!) ... worthy of its own thread, but THIS is NOT that thread. This one is Pussy Licking...Intermediate Level. (Ok, I joke.)

How a man changed a woman's voice with his tongue. I like that sentence or phrase. Because, afterword, the voice will have changed after she comes. Pay attention, and you'll notice. I think it is true every time.

So, to attract people to the right topic more easily and clearly...I re-started that discussion in this thread with a new title.

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ESPECIALLY... women, I think men (or many men) need to see your advice here!!

You don't need to reveal personal stuff. So, call it "advice that a bunch of ladies mentioned as we were drinking champagne and thinking of suggestions for the guys we know". "Be the best you can be!"

Why do men need help? Fuck if I can really answer that question. But I am convinced (I hear) that MOST men can be a LOT better in this area. (Ladies? More than half?)
(Well, I will propose some answers later as to why. One is just lack of education. Men don't have pussies! So, duh! The understanding does not come naturally. (Not an intentional word play.) We need education.)

So, LADIES, PLEASE HELP.
Don't bitch later amongst your bi or gay girlfriends that "men are generally bad at oral".... and hope for a solution there. Tell us. (Hey, bi women and lesbians... please share. Like Tiresias, you have some advantages in this discussion. Share and share alike.)

Men can learn. I have learned a LOT (and have more to learn). If I can fucking learn, well, many men can learn. (I have to say that I did not start learning -- I mean really learning -- until one woman complimented me, and somehow (what words did she use??)... she motivated me to become a lot better. Maybe she gave me the confidence to believe I could be a LOT better. And she would tell you (if she were here) that I am a lot better. (How much better... well,... not gonna go there. Except to say I have more to learn.). If I can learn, then MANY can learn.

SO ...HELP.

And GUYS, too... please explain or share what you have learned. Some of you are quite good (or so I hear). And maybe HOW you learned it. Try to imagine HOW dumb some guys can be in this area. Try to imagine how dumb you WERE when you first started. They might be GREAT lovers, great cocksmen, ... but you can still be dumb as shit about licking pussy. Or so I hear.

Personally, I think part of it is practical instruction in certain details. And part is female psychology. And part male head game (no...I mean in the man's head ... like "The inner game of tennis", only for pussy licking).

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PLEASE ADD your thoughts, comments, suggestions.

Enough for now from me. I will add more later.

To all the future smiles from all the women whose pussies will have been so much better licked! Because someone read something here.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Watch lesbian porn.

 

[Kinky Cinderella]

Girls are way harder to please than men when it comes to oral sex.....every single lady will enjoy daty in a personal way...even I, all alone, can get quite complicated since I LOVE digits after a certain time and few orgasmes and the pace has to change following the orgasmes...I can also squirt but it depends on the man I am with (chemistry or not doesn't have anything to do on a possible squirt from me) and the way he is trying to make it happen, his drive....

So all by myself would need an encyclopedia to explain how I do work and what if it do not work while being with me (just in order to not hurt anyone's feelings/ego lol)

 

[harwell1690]

Hi Cinderella,

OK, I totally believe you. My field research confirms that not only are women complicated, but their pussies respond differently at different times. Yep.

I get that.

BUT... START writing the beginning of the encyclopedia article. Show us one way that a man licked the pussy of a friend, and she loved it. I want detailed instructions. I want to smell her (if it's good, it smells GOOD IMO), and taste her. Give us the first 20 minutes. Summarize it in one full page. A LOT more detail. What is ONE scenario that could be really good?

Yes, never will it be everything. But it's a damn start.

Let me strongly agree (I think). This is the way I put it --- You are not just licking her whole pussy or her clit or around her clit. You are licking her mind. You are making love to her mind, or fucking her mind (yes, some women WANT to be fucked, of course). Stronger, more gutteral. And you, Cinderella, would be a prime example of that kind of person. Or so I hear as I read you.

Help us, O muse, feel the folds of her labia. Help us slide up and down. Help us lick just the way that makes her say "oohhhhahhh, fffuuuccccckkk". Let our tongues see just where that tongue should be, should move next.
Help us, so that even the shy girl put her hands behind our head and pulls our mouth into her pussy. And wants it to last forever.
O muse, delight us and teach us, so that we might delight the next woman in our arms, our grasp, in our hands!

Seriously, for guys who know the details, then your "high level" suggestions are good reminders. But some guys (this was me, and maybe still is)....we need (more) help in the trenches!

One example. A clit is kinda like a penis. It engorges. Some are bigger, some smaller. One clear thing. You lick one way to tease her and let her mind relax and anticipate and start to let go and engorge the clit. You lick another way to take the clit over the rainbow. (The woman to shoot the moon.) You have to feel what's happening, you have to listen, taste... and then, the readiness is all. Take her. Attack, ... well attack, teasingly, gently, to some degree, in an unexpected way. For some women, I think GENTLY and DESPACITO are two very good words of advice. But not for all women and maybe not all the times.

Explain that more... or one version of that... Give us a good scenario...

THANKS!
(BTW, best regards, too. I don't know you, but for some damn reason, I like you.)

 

[ssj3]

Why are you giving away all the secrets? Most guys are bad at DATY and I prefer to keep it that way :lol:

 

[harwell1690]

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!

You selfish asshole! (haha) You make me laugh. SSJ3....no worries, you are SO much better than every other man in Montreal, we will never catch up! (And I'm not from Montreal.)

Seriously? Because I like women, and they deserve more.
And because I feel happier now that I am better at it, and I want more men to feel that way.
It is VERY satisfying to take a woman over the Rainbow, and hear her and feel her. Just feels fucking good! Love those sounds, those tastes, those spasming muscles...whole fucking thing.

Some woman here...I think I recall who... put this song in the Lounge. "What the world - needs now - is love, sweet love." An old song, a bit too simple... but, well, I'm making the world better one orgasm at a time!
That's the fuck why. Sorry! (Not sorry!) [smile]

 

[Kinky Cinderella]

:lol: I won't give my secrets for free...those who want to know how and want to see why my name popped out in the "moaner of the year" thread have to do their homework.. :lol:

 

[CaptRenault]

Every woman is a little different in how she likes to be stimulated down there. The best thing is to get her to direct the action, if you can.

Also, it can help to study the techniques of other guys, for example: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5b2194ff1d0ed

 

[harwell1690]

Hi Cinderella,

Well, that's a challenge. I may have to put in the field research! The things I do for science and you guys! (Oh, the torture of the scarcasm!!!)

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Ok, one more suggestion for the general reader.

From the other thread. one suggestion was also use your finger or fingers. Works real well for some. Sometimes you have to work out the physics and the geometry of the arm and hand to her body. Don't hurt yourself (or her).
Fingers could be its own thread, I think.

Adding a massage can be good. (Lots of things to learn about massages. A butt massage might be a good idea about now. Getting deep but also gentle into those gluts! Could be most welcome.)

Here's a different idea. Grab under her butt. Lift her butt up, so it's like pussy on the half shell. Her pussy is higher than her head. And if you put your elbows underneath, not that hard to hold. Then let her see you alternate between aggressive (or almost about to be aggressive) attacks on her pussy. (It's more the mental image. I think most still want gentleness, mostly. But the feeling of someone WANTING to attack you is a good feeling. YMMV.) And then little gentle teases that come close, and make her pussy want to beg for more.

I am guessing part of the thrill (for some) is the feeling of being "helpless" -- you have her and you can just force your tongue anywhere. Psychologically, they are being forced to have an orgasm.
Maybe for some a feeling of "Fuck, no man has done this before. What's gonna happen?" I think some may feel that way.

I am feeling this let's some women let go, and let it happen. A guess. Needs further field research.
"He had me...I just didn't have a choice." Not really true, but the biggest sex organ is the mind.

Another part is....you wouldn't hold the pussy up like that if you did not REALLY want to get inside her. You WANT that pussy.
There is no aphrodiasiac better than being WANTED.
Do. Not. Lie. If you really want her, do it. If not, DO. NOT. LIE.
Women have a VERY good bullshit detector. Be real.

 

[ShyMan]

You selfish asshole! (haha) You make me laugh. SSJ3....no worries, you are SO much better than every other man in Montreal, we will never catch up! (And I'm not from Montreal.)

SSJ is the King of DATY. I have heard from many top SP's wishing every man could be as good as SSJ in that regard. I think's it's a talent and even if we follow SSJ's instructions, I doubt we could come close to his prowess. I've come to accept the fact that I will never come close to being anywhere as good as SSJ in providing DATY. My tongue isn't that well endowed or talented.

Good thread. I need a few tips.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Every woman is a little different in how she likes to be stimulated down there. The best thing is to get her to direct the action, if you can.

This. Of some of my non-SP relations I've had the one I couldn't get off no matter the effort and the one that got there but I was down there for a while. But I also had a long term partner that climaxed within a minute of me down there mostly tending to her clit. It wasn't because I'm amazing but because every woman is different. Varying approaches to eating pussy is probably why most men aren't great at it. We assume it's like fellatio, which is far more standardized and easier to do.

 

[ATasteOfEve]

Ok...As a 56 year old woman, I have had a lot of men try to make me "go over the rainbow" with not much luck. I've been nicknamed "iron pussy" by a girlfriend in the past. Lol! To be clear, I do NOT have an iron pussy!

I understand that men want to make a woman orgasm for whatever their reasons. However, if a man does not truly enjoy worshipping between a woman's thighs, it is simply mechanical and it's obvious that the man is on a mission and that he isn't really enjoying it himself. Definitely a turn off and he deserves a smack to the side of the head for rushing and being too hard on the poor little clit (which is NOT made of rubber my friends).

Women are complicated creatures. If you're not up to the task, don't bother. Afterall, we ARE escorts and not your lovers. You don't have to pleasure us...xx

 

[jalimon]

Women are complicated creatures. If you're not up to the task, don't bother. Afterall, we ARE escorts and not your lovers. You don't have to pleasure us...xx

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has been my philosophy with escort all along!

That said go figure I managed to daty/digit girls that prohibited it... Me who do not care much about such and who is not good at it. Somehow when chemistry hits the roof anything is possible I guess

Cheers,

p.s. telling you guys learn the fake japanese massage technique on pornhub. Looks silly until it works for real haha

 

[ShyMan]

That said go figure I managed to daty/digit girls that prohibited it... Me who do not care much about such and who is not good at it.

p.s. telling you guys learn the fake japanese massage technique on pornhub. Looks silly until it works for real haha

Don't sell yourself short, Jalimon. You actually care about everyone; don't deny it, you have a heart of gold. Thanks for the tip on the "Japanese massage".

I learned about this website while reading an article advising lovers how to help each other achieve O's. I paid for the first season but waiting for more videos. So, you may not wish to sign up yet. https://www.omgyes.com/en/how-it-works

I like giving and receiving and I believe my YMMV will improve greatly regardless of who I am lucky enough to have sex with [females only ].

I have a short tongue so I usually suck on a menthol cough drop before the encounter. If I see a nice kitty, I'm compelled to engage in DATY. It's something I can't help, except if the kitty is hairy -- it's a hang up but I can do DATY only if the kitty is hairless (she can have a some public hair above the area where my tongue travels).

 

[ATasteOfEve]

Sam! Please don't take what I say to heart. I enjoy all those things that you enjoy too. I'm a very caring person and enjoy all the aspects of being with a man.

I was merely talking about the DATY part, which is what this thread is about. Don't assume because an escort doesn't expect an orgasm that she doesn't enjoy your company too.

Giving a woman an orgasm is wonderful! However, I think all the other things you have mentioned go a long way to making the experience enjoyable for both. Speaking for myself, the orgasm doesn't define the experience between a man and a woman.

For what it's worth...Eve

 

[ShyMan]

Then there are others that don’t want to treat you “ as escorts” but actually want to live the fantasy and treat you as a lover or as a girlfriend and be as giving and pleasing as you are ( strange I would think most would want somebody that cares and wants to please them).

I see the ladies I am seeing not just for the sex, I enjoy their company, talking to them, kissing etc..l I have many email conversations with them about all kinds of things and it is not always initiated by me.

When it comes to sex, yes it means a lot to me if I can do anything that will give them even the slightest pleasure, and I ask what they like and how, some of us do want the whole fantasy and don’t consider them as just “ escorts”.

Spot on, Sam21. I'm in your camp. That's why I believe Montreal SP's are superior, at least for me.

I believe sex workers have strong fortitude -- I couldn't be one; plus the work is very hard on her body and mind, yes it's real work, IMHO. I do must best to be respectful and grateful to them. A large part of me hope they enjoy my DATY as a way to show them my respect and gratefulness.

I'm not a BJ guy (but I won't object if the lady wants to provide Junior oral pleasure), but I notice that Junior gets excited when I'm giving DATY and experiencing the lady achieving O's. DATY does improve with practice and we need all the guidance we can get from our partners and experts who have a vagina.

 

[snowplow]

Pussies are not just objects but an integral part of the ladies we love. As we all know, people are infinitely varied and are always changing. What works one day, may not wrk the next day. Having said that, you should not limit yourself to “licking” pussy, but you should kiss it, touch it, caress it, probe it, explore it and adjust to your parents reactions. Worship it. This will lead to reciprocity and you will not regret it.

 

[ATasteOfEve]

snowplow

Well said darling!

 

[snowplow]

Small correction: I meant partners, not “parents”! Lol

 

[sambuca]

I am guessing part of the thrill (for some) is the feeling of being "helpless" -- you have her and you can just force your tongue anywhere. Psychologically, they are being forced to have an orgasm.

I'm thinking you didn't exactly mean your choice of words. Even with following the most amazing technique, you cannot force a woman to have an orgasm.

In a slightly different direction, I think I like DATY because it has helped me warm up a cold escort on a few occasions. When you see that look of ecstasy on a recalcitrant escort's face, it can make all the difference. I've turned some mediocre encounters into good ones. Many less than inspired escorts will gratefully reciprocate. I'm not saying this works every time though.