Long term arrangements

[ourson1960]

I just answered with my heart with my own reality, as a woman. That's always been easy for some men on escort's boards to put away the opinion of a woman based on "marketing". It's just appeared that I respect my own personal woman pace in my encounters. What I did write "Be yourself" is exactly what I do. I think it is the way to avoid bad souvenirs and feeling like "shit" after. And I do sincerely believe that men and women in this "industry" are just living all the same feelings inside, the same questioning, the same fears, the same effects after. We are all humans, after all. :nod:

So logically, the very best advice I could give, to escorts & to gentlemen of "all sorts" is just "Be yourself" know who you are, know your limits, and respect them. And you will be "hobby happy".

By the way, I am wishing you for 2017 all the best.

Peace on Earth for people of good will. Paix sur terre pour les gens de bonne volonté.

:angel:

Thanks for your contributions, Maria. You are a wise and wonderful person.

 

[curly]

Wheter you should seek divorce or not, bro, is none of my business. So let me focus on the "arrangement" aspect of your question.

I've had arrangements on and off with a few girls over the years. There are ups and down in seeing different girls everytime. First you have to establish a rapport starting from scratch (unless you're into mechanical sex). Second you take chances every time and thirdly she does not know you and know very well what you like. Seeing the same person regularly allows you to build a sexual intimacy and even affection (not love!) that make these relationships pleasant.

There are much gold diggers out in places like SeekingArrangement or Sugardaddy, you'll have to weed-out carefully and meet a few girls, be ready to fail and succeed randomly. However, for $2000/month, lots of semi-pros will be happy to meet with you. Some very sweet girls in the bunch and true GFE sex. I know I sound different from all the other guys giving you advice here, but I'm not making suppositions. I've lived it, for real, and not only once. If you get the right girl, it can be quite pleasant without the complications of normal relationships (you and her set the parameters from the beginning, for e.g. she's not going to try to control you or get jealous and the same with you).

 

[Valdo]

You are obviously good at marketing. I just wanted him to understand that there are plenty of reviews for him to read and for him to understand that many of us have not found younger, agency escorts to be cold or robotic during their standard one hour sessions. The agency ladies do not post on merb, so their voices are rarely heard.

I fully agree with you.

 

[jalimon]

And even with a condo, there would be some advantages to incall. He could pick a gym near the incall and go work out there to explain his presence in the neighborhood. Presumably the spouse goes to the condo. How would he like a neighbor to mention to her how she saw their "daughter" go in last Friday. Nuclear explosion.

The explosion will happen sooner or later. You cannot live an unhappy marriage all your life.

Still the advice is wise, I too would not do outcall but incall. As you mentionned earlier, the business of top agency is solely base on privacy.

And once you get to know these girls, houlala the fun starts! As Elvis said, a little less talking, a little less conversation, a little more action...

Cheers,

 

[ShyMan]

The explosion will happen sooner or later. You cannot live an unhappy marriage all your life.

Still the advice is wise, I too would not do outcall but incall. As you mentioned earlier, the business of top agency is solely base on privacy.

If I were in your shoes r00t, I'd get a nice hotel guest room and live out your fantasies. If you have a company expense account, use that card to book the room and pay cash at the end so the pre-charges fall off the bill and no one will know. I like incalls (and only use them with agencies I've dealt with regularly) but I prefer outcalls. I like clean bed sheets so I generally ask housekeeping to change them after each encounter and pay the staff C$5 or C$10 tips and everyone is happy. I like the smell of different girls and don't want to confuse my Mr. Johnson with the scent of other ladies. I want to be in the moment with the ladies I'm meeting at the time. Afterwards, you can still do some work remotely on your laptop and mobile phone and enjoy the peace and quiet of being alone without your (unhappy) wife. Hell, treat yourself, especially if you have to put up with an unhappy marriage.

 

[ShyMan]

Married guys who have never done this activity before on a regular basis are kind of amusing.


3. If Friday of every week is Euphoria day (pun intended) and you see an incall escort every Friday for an hour, wouldn't you enjoy that experience (and the anticipation of it) just as much as getting together for a multi-hour time period with the exact same person? And wouldn't your discretion be better protected? Those college students at an agency like that don't give a shit who you are, and you are communicating with an agency owner whose livelihood depends upon discretion. Who the hell wants to put all their eggs in one basket? You have spent two years telling one escort how much you hate your wife during your three hours of social time each week. Your one escort secretly hates you, knows your name, and goes to lunch one day with your wife when she has decided to leave the business.

Quit thinking like a married guy and start thinking like a successful John. Your brain and your dick will thank you.

Great wisdom:thumb::amen: my good brother, Patron :rockon::nod:

 

[curly]

Curly when I said to consider picking an agency (or two agencies) for a regular Friday rendezvous that would of course include many repeats with a favorite lady. They don't have 52 different escorts who always work on Fridays. It would be inevitable to like some of the better than others.

And even with a condo, there would be some advantages to incall. He could pick a gym near the incall and go work out there to explain his presence in the neighborhood. Presumably the spouse goes to the condo. How would he like a neighbor to mention to her how she saw their "daughter" go in last Friday. Nuclear explosion.

I agree that frequent repeats with favorite ladies end up being more personal and friendly. However, to me, most SP still are hourly workers, while arrangement ladies are much more flexible on that. Also, a sugar baby can also host, which allow you to have your "nuclear explosion" at her place and prevent the unpleasant one at home...

I guess it's just a question of preferences, but I wanted to provide another point of view, based on my own experience which has been positive. I'm also aware that there are horror stories with arrangements, the same as there are with SPs.....

 

[ShyMan]

Sooner or later there is an email or a mailing with a promotion or a survey about Did you enjoy your stay at Holiday Inn Sherbrooke, and the nuclear explosion occurs.

True, indeed.

Maybe AirBnB might be safer. Hell, there's no easy solution. I don't know what the marriage laws are that would apply to our friend who started this thread but if it's a "fault state" (meaning the spouse whose infinitely broke the marriage vows and inherit trusts) then it's better to dissolve the unhappy marriage before this suffering dude gets caught by the wife, resulting in a larger alimony and greater assets being awarded to the ex-wife by the adjudicating body. Bite the bullet now and be happier afterwards and you'll be happier enjoying the company of escorts.

 

[jalimon]

1026733[/URL]]True, indeed.

Maybe AirBnB might be safer. Hell, there's no easy solution. I don't know what the marriage laws are that would apply to our friend who started this thread but if it's a "fault state" (meaning the spouse whose infinitely broke the marriage vows and inherit trusts) then it's better to dissolve the unhappy marriage before this suffering dude gets caught by the wife, resulting in a larger alimony and greater assets being awarded to the ex-wife by the adjudicating body. Bite the bullet now and be happier afterwards and you'll be happier enjoying the company of escorts.

You are an investor right? Your anwser is like when you lose trust in an investment, take the blow, pull out and move on to better things, which is the wise choice

cheers,

 

[westwoody]

These threads make me thank God I am single, answer to nobody, and can spend whatever I want on whatever I want.

 

[RedRooster]

@r00t : Care to share the names & locations of those London bars that promote SPs?

 

[r00t]

@r00t : Care to share the names & locations of those London bars that promote SPs?

Not sure that should go into public post so PM sent

 

[Maria Divina]

@r00t : Care to share the names & locations of those London bars that promote SPs?

Please, I would be very interested to know as well

 

[ShyMan]

You are an investor right? Your anwser is like when you lose trust in an investment, take the blow, pull out and move on to better things, which is the wise choice

cheers,

My schooling and work have made me evaluate most things I do analytically and rationally like an investor but often my heats gets the better part of me. Despite not having been married and never having had children, I can evaluate r00t's heart wrenching dilemmas and decisions objectively but if I were in his shoes, my mind would be flooded with thoughts Patron brought up. I have siblings whose husbands I suspect are going through the same though processes Patron wisely noted. And as a single guy, who wants to start a family with a younger lady so we can have some kids, I can now say divorce as an easier solution for r00t but in reality I agree with Patron that it's an infinitely more complicated calulas for him to work through.

 

[ShyMan]

Most guys, particularly middle-aged guys, find it a bit more complicated than that. And it is rarely about the money.

A lot of guys look around the house and focus on what they value the most, the kids and the pets, and evaluate the future with and without a divorce. It is great if everyone survives the divorce with no damage, but that is certainly not always the case. What if she raises his son to be a "male feminist" like a certain politician. What if every time his daughter brings a boy home, the ex-wife later steers the discussion to "make sure whoever you marry isn't like your dad." What if the dog really loves the guy, she knows that, and demands the dog in the divorce. Will the old cat survive moving to a new house if the old one is sold?

Escorts and some good social and recreational activities with guy friends on a regular basis can fix a lot of things.

You are absoltely right. I'm sure when r00t first met his wife, they were madly in love and remained in love for sometime after they got married. Often, our hearts prevail and sometimes lead us to true happiness and other times to unforeseen misery. Deciding to divorce a spouse, I image, is a more complex and heart wrenching evaluation one must make than deciding to marry someone (which often is made by happy hormones flooding our brains).

I can empathize with r00t some because, like Patron said it's not always about money, I'm doing everything in my power 24/7 to keep my terminally ill mom alive and comfortable. Her doctors say let her go but under my 24/7 care my mom has outlived her doctors' terminal prognosis time and again and she's alive and happy when she sees her grandchildren (none of them are mine), which makes me happy and worthwhile! As everyone who I spoke with in my position, I have only one mother; I can always find another lady to be my second wife (many guys were divorced by their wives because they were spending nearly 24/7 caring for their disabled mothers).

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

As for a divorce, it is scary and costs a lot but the end result is well worth it. Divorces start out well but then some of her friends say she should demand more, get a lawyer and go for everything, women are vindictive and a group of women are pure evil when it comes to a divorce.... Sure glad I searched for a good lawyer, now I have my own house, my kids are with me, I pay no alimony ( she accepted 5 yrs advance full payment ) plus I can see ecsorts when I want and need to hide nothing, win-win.
As for long term, I get tired of an ATF after awhile, can see no need for it.

 

[jalimon]

You are absoltely right. I'm sure when r00t first met his wife, they were madly in love and remained in love for sometime after they got married. Often, our hearts prevail and sometimes lead us to true happiness and other times to unforeseen misery. Deciding to divorce a spouse, I image, is a more complex and heart wrenching evaluation one must make than deciding to marry someone (which often is made by happy hormones flooding our brains).

I went through the process of separation with kids and all I have to say is that for my own sanity, for the happiness of my kids, I am really glad I did. It was a very costly wise move

Cheers,

p.s. I did now saw STN's answer before mine, cannot agree more. Just happy that on my side no lawyer were needed. Just a big check

 

[EagerBeaver]

I never got married because I kind of knew the single lifestyle is what I wanted after ending a 2 year relationship with my last serious girlfriend.

A few of my buddies from high school and law school have gone through costly divorces, and much like someone who is badly burned from putting his hand on a hot stove, they are not so eager to be cooking on the stove now. They are very casual and not pushing to get married to the women they date now and are sampling escort scenes.

 

[jacep]

i had a somwat exclusif meetings with a lady allong time ago. for me it was exclusif for me seeing sp but for her, she still scene other peopel wich is fine. for me being exclusif with her was seeing her at least twice per month for 2 hours each time or contacting her first, she gave me a special rate (granfatherd rate from wen i first scene her).

it workd out for awile but then it got weird sienfeld style in sort of reverse episode of sienfeld hiring housecleaner & starts dating her at same time & eventualy she just slept with him but didnt clean house but still took money for cleaning house. for me, it eventualy became wear 2 hours was 1 sog & allots of talking. i was & am capabel of msog so 1 sog in 2 hours meeting for me is not good or not wat i genraly pay for. dont get me wrong, i enjoy talking with her but for me talking is just manly for recuperating between sog.

 

[Muri_EnDouceur]

Are we refering here to something like Seeking Arrangement? Many SP and INdies are present on that site + few gems.