MasterCard Investigating Pornhub Allegations

[EagerBeaver]

I am wondering where this will go as far as the major credit cards allowing payments to adult sites:

Kennisgeving voor omleiding

www.google.com

 

[2fast2slow]

I am wondering where this will go as far as the major credit cards allowing payments to adult sites:

Kennisgeving voor omleiding

www.google.com

cc companies probably just postering...let's hope. I mean, online porn purchases through ccs are in the billions, dont think the cc companies want to jeapordize that

 

[hungry101]

I don’t know guys. Corporate America is
being infiltrated by the woke left even at the highest levels. If there is even a hint of
Trafficking and underaged pornography, and the media makes this a priority, I firmly believe that the activists in corporate America will cut off your credit card. I remember when Democratic candidate Howard Dean said a dozen years ago that he wanted the guys that drove around with Confederate flags in the back of their pickup to vote for him. Ten years later flag companies stopped making the flag and wouldn’t sell it. I worked for a chemical company that wouldn’t allow me
To work on anything that had to do with guns - even cleaning solutions. They closed down CL/BP because of a handful of a handful of underaged ads. You can’t buy a gun using PayPal or sell a gun on FB market place etc. If the woke left make left makes this a priority and may MeToo gets involved, it’s over. Use Bitcoin.

 

[gugu]

" Mastercard said in a statement on Thursday that the investigation “confirmed violations of our standards prohibiting unlawful content on their site,” which prompted the company to terminate the acceptance of its cards on the site. "

Fucking hypocrits. Do they apply this policy to Facebook and Twitter?

 

[gugu]

Declaration by PH "As part of our policy to ban unverified uploaders, we have now also suspended all previously uploaded content that was not created by content partners or members of the Model Program. This means every piece of Pornhub content is from verified uploaders, a requirement that platforms like Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat and Twitter have yet to institute.
Leading non-profit organizations and advocacy groups acknowledge our efforts to date at combating illegal content have been effective. Over the last three years, Facebook self-reported 84 million instances of child sexual abuse material. During that same period, the independent, third-party Internet Watch Foundation reported 118 incidents on Pornhub. That is still 118 too many, which is why we are committed to taking every necessary action."

 

[EagerBeaver]

Does that mean MasterCard will now accept Pornhub payments?

 

[gugu]

Does that mean MasterCard will now accept Pronhub payments?

According to previous statements by them they should but i doubt they will.

 

[neverbored]

"Pornhub's announcement also cites a report by third-party Internet Watch Foundation, which found 118 instances of child sexual abuse material on Pornhub in the last three years, and notes that in the same period, Facebook's own transparency report found 84 million instances of child sexual abuse material on the social media platform."
Source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqjjy/pornhub-suspended-all-unverified-videos-content

Now, if only they could attack the real issues found on Facebook, Youtube and Twitter...

 

[Numerati]

Now sites like pornhub has to have their moderators to look thru the site/database to find these vids. I would hate to have this job lol. Also many vids that were saved and on someone’s playlist are also gone as well and some of these are legit vids too. This is one big ol’ mess.

 

[CaptRenault]

Reason.com's Elizabeth Nolan Brown does her usual excellent job of refuting unjustified charges against some part of the sex industry, in this case against Pornhub.

Pornhub Isn't the Problem. That Won't Stop the Politicized Crusade Against It.

It's not hard to understand why Pornhub—a giant clearinghouse of user-posted porn clips that gets massive amounts of web traffic—makes…

reason.com

...there is strong evidence that Pornhub's problems are much smaller in scope than the problems of popular social media sites such as Facebook, Snapchat, and Instagram. That these sites generally get a pass from Pornhub foes and the press suggests there's something more going on here than just a concern for protecting children. For politicians, activists, and media personalities looking to score an easy win, the campaign against Pornhub appears to be more about moral grandstanding and leveraging generalized shame around pornography than addressing the real problem of child abuse and exploitation...

...Instead of chasing selfie-taking teens, tech execs, payment processors, and sex workers, authorities should focus on enforcing existing laws against those actually committing crimes or posting images of abuse. No one except abusers thinks that abusers should get away with this. But as long as tech companies are making good faith efforts to stop abusers from posting content, and cooperating with authorities to identify such content, they can be partners of law enforcement, not enemies. They are the ones in the best position to help recognize illicit content and report it, as well as to provide records that can help in prosecutions...

 

[hungry101]

Great article by her, as usual.

Equally disturbing is this matter-of-fact attitude that if MasterCard, Visa and American Express decide they don’t like Peppermint Ice Cream, then you can’t buy Peppermint Ice Cream even if a store is selling it and you want to buy it.
Sweden long ago expressed a desire to eliminate cash entirely. Most of us knew why. It allows better control over the citizenry.

Yep, this is spot on. Eliminating cash is just another way to control us. Come on Bit Coin!

Already there are platforms like FB and EBay where you cannot sell firearms. (Is it the woke staffers of these organizations or is it fear of liability? ) So they came up with a few platforms to sell firearms and these are constantly under attack. They are trying to make it so that you cannot pay for these guns with credit cards. So it is predicted that there will be credit card companies that allow for their use when purchasing a firearm. Likewise, there new social media sites for conservatives due to the the blatant censorship by Twitter and YouTube called Parlor and Rumble. It has been predicted that we will eventually pay for things with right wing or left wing credit cards. You can extrapolate on and on. We are becoming more divided and more tribal.

But back to PornHub. This is just more of the same Government applying pressure to big tech so they can get a back door into the encryption so that the government can keep a better eye on us and take better care of the masses. I predict good things if they can do this. They will stop the trafficking that is so prolific and maybe even curtail our activities that may lead to global climate change (who will think of the polar bears?)

A recent piece by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof neatly hits these notes. On Pornhub, "a search for 'girls under18′ (no space) or '14yo' leads in each case to more than 100,000 videos," wrote Kristof, before adding that "most aren't children being assaulted." (Conflating role-playing with actual abuse is also a common feature of anti-Pornhub advocacy.)

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[CaptRenault]

The Financial Times published a long story on Pornhub yesterday.

The tone of the story makes it seem like it is revealing previously unknown secrets about the company, but there is almost nothing new in it, except maybe the name of Montrealer Bernard Bergemar as the principal owner of Mindgeek (the company that has controlled Pornhub and most other major tube sites in recent years).

Several other sources have told the same basic tale before, though the story of Pornhub has not previously appeared in a prestigious newspaper like the FT.

MindGeek: the secretive owner of Pornhub and RedTube

In the internet era, porn is everywhere but the company which owns some of the most popular sites is out of sight

www.ft.com

...Despite this, basic facts about the company are largely unknown. That includes its main owner — a businessman called Bernard Bergemar, whose name is almost completely invisible on the internet but who has a claim to the title of the world’s most successful porn tycoon. Until this Financial Times investigation, his identity was secret, known only to a small circle of MindGeek executives and their advisers. MindGeek’s website bears little trace of the adult industry. Instead, the company bills itself as a “leader in the design, development . . . and management of highly trafficked websites”. High traffic is an understatement. The Luxembourg-registered group, which in 2018 recorded just over $460m in revenues, entices more than 115m visitors to its websites every day. In the US over the past month, for example, more web searches were recorded for “Pornhub” than “coronavirus” or “Trump”, according to Google data. Prospective MindGeek employees are told they will be able to take “big data to the next level”, uncovering “user habits overnight that take others months to gather”. Every day, roughly 15 terabytes worth of videos get uploaded to MindGeek’s sites, equivalent to roughly half of the content available to watch on Netflix...

 

[monboy]

the CC companies just pulled out of Leolist.cc last week, now postings have to be paid thru Bitcoin

 

[neverbored]

I was reading up about TraffickingHub (exoduscry.com), the Christian fundamentalists org that brought light to pornhub and have been campaigning hard for quite some time.
This was not a fight against Pornhub, this is a crusade against everything "xxx/18y+". Their mission is to bring down the entire sex industry (prostitution, stripping and porn).

I'm all for making protecting vulnerable women and especially minors from falling into the hads of predators a priority, but I can't stop thinking how badly federal proposals could in fact include A LOT more than just "xxx". A morality police that decides what is ok and not ok seriously makes me cringe (think how badly C-36 is worded). Would this not push any consenting SW further underground?

 

[EagerBeaver]

I was reading up about TraffickingHub (exoduscry.com), the Christian fundamentalists org that brought light to pornhub and have been campaigning hard for quite some time.
This was not a fight against Pornhub, this is a crusade against everything "xxx/18y+". Their mission is to bring down the entire sex industry (prostitution, stripping and porn).

Unfortunately these fundamentalist groups exist locally and are usually well funded and organized through local Churches. They tend to pick on the low hanging fruit that is not well funded and organized and can't fight back, enabling "victories" over the low hanging fruits and business closures. From my perspective the law is very much on the side of the porn industry, but you need funding and attorneys to fight back. Occasionally what happens is in their fight the fundamentalists start to move up in the porn food chain on their targets, and inevitably pick on some mob owned businesses that have their own attorneys and money to burn on them, and that is when the fight back happens.

 

[hungry101]

Are the fundamentalist behind the 40 Girls Do Porn “Victims” that are suing PornHub?

NCOSE Law Center |

sexualexploitationlawsuits.com

These are the people behind this. Their victories include forcing Disney to remove the sex trafficking scene on the Pirates of the Caribbean. (The pirate chasing the woman around in a circle). They are a bipartisan organization. If you don’t think that the left doesn’t support an organization like this than your smoking to much pot.

 

[neverbored]

Not too familiar with the US process, how likely is this to pass? and if it does... reading it looks like a Internet Porn killer (especially on the marketing side anyways)

https://www.xbiz.com/news/256391/senators-propose-far-reaching-new-adult-industry-regulations

 

[hungry101]

Pretty likely. There is a lot of bad legislation that passes because to not support it means that you support something horrific. If you don’t support some wacky California environmental law that means you’re pro pollution. If you don’t support this bill you’re pro trafficking. The bill probably include a raise for everyone in congress.

I predict that PornHub is toast. You get too big and if politicians can make political hey by going after you than you’re toast. Here, like many places, mob rule is prevalent.

I keep thinking of that poor girls do porn model and how she was exploited. You know, the one that showed up to do a porn video but had no idea that she would have to do a blow job. She thought she would just have to do intercourse. The poor thing. Now my saved Kelly from Eleganza porno is gone! Just like that!

 

[CaptRenault]

When you are in the porn business, you should probably keep a low profile. But one of the founders of Pornhub, Concordia grad and Syrian born Feras Antoon has been attracting the attention of the tabloid media by building a mega mansion in the northern suburbs of Montreal. Also, you probably shouldn't build your mega mansion in a neighborhood known for association with the Rizzuto mafia family. The Daily Mail had two stories recently about Antoon and Pornhub. The stories are based on reporting by the Journal de Montreal

Tout un château pour le roi montréalais de la porno

Un des patrons de Pornhub est en train de faire construire une vaste et luxueuse résidence, dans le nord de Montréal.

www.journaldemontreal.com

Pornhub founder Feras Antoon is building a massive mansionin Montreal

Syrian-born Pornhub founder Feras Antoon, 45, has spent millions building a castle for his wife and two sons, DailyMail.com can reveal.

www.dailymail.co.uk

...For this is the house that porn built — the brand-new chateau in Montreal that Pornhub boss Feras Antoon will soon call home.

Syrian-born Antoon, 45, bought two lots of land next to the Bois-de-Saraguay nature park on the northern edge of Montreal for CAN$2.3 million (US$1.8 million) cash four years ago and spent millions more building the home of his dreams ever since.

And now, he is watching his deluxe mansion, complete with a six-car garage, near completion.

It backs on to Montreal's 'Mafia Row' where many crime figures live. On the very spot that Antoon's home is being built, a gunman stood and fired a single bullet through a double-paned window, killing Nicolo Rizzuto — 'The Canadian Godfather' — in his kitchen in 2010...

...Le Journal de Montreal reported he has a $2 million mansion an hour from Montreal in the tony resort town of Sainte-Marguerite-du-Lac-Masson and at least two sprawling condos in the city itself.

The previous owners of the site where his palace is being built went to court to win a planning battle to allow 220 trees to be felled to make room for it...

How Pornhub's creators monopolized the world of adult entertainment

Pornhub was launched by Canadian college grad Matt Keezer in 2007 after he bought the domain name for a mere $2,750. Since then, it has grown into the largest website of its kind in the world.

www.dailymail.co.uk

...While the website is ubiquitous, little is known about its owners and operators or how much it is worth.

They are Stephane Manos, Ouissam Youssef, Feras Antoon and Matt Keezer, who founded the site in 2007, two years after YouTube was founded, in Montreal, Quebec.

They all knew each other for years while attending Concordia University and had a shared love of the internet and pornography.

Antoon is the only one who retains a formal active role as the CEO of PornHub's parent company MindGeek. MindGeek is a private company whose headquarters are now in Luxembourg. It has more than 1,200 employees.

 

[CaptRenault]

It's definitely not a good way to "fit in" to your new neighborhood, especially now that you have attracted so much media attention as the world's most famous porn entrepreneur. The location is a small island called Ile Paton on the south shore of Laval, between Laval and Montreal.

"So where do you live?" "Uh, on Ile Patron...uh, right next to that house built by that internet entrepreneur guy." "You mean the porn king's mega mansion." "Uh, yeah."

Those woods were private property and the owner had the right to sell them, though there was probably a general understanding that any development of the area would consist of houses similar in size to the houses in the neighborhood (which are already big houses). If the local government really wanted to protect the woods, then it needed to have purchased them before the property was sold to others. It's too bad, but now it's obviously too late.