I've been visiting Montreal since 2012 from the NJ/NYC region. What started as a value hobby destination has transformed into a getaway weekend to one of my favorite cities. I love it up there, and you should all be proud of your city. But to be perfectly honest, I think the quality has tapered off in terms of available girls. Euphoria is one of the best agencies a guy could possibly work with, and for the most part James has never disappointed. However, I find unless I have access to a few of the top girls at any of the best agencies then im better hobbying in NNJ/NYC. My point is even given the favorable exchange rate, once I factor in hotel and other travels costs, I'm not getting the same quality or excitement in Montreal that I had compared to a few years ago. (Top girls at great agencies like Euphoria excluded). I've used some other top agencies up in Montreal recently and walked away disappointed and wishing I had hobbied back here. For you old timers, do you think the quality has dropped off a bit in Montreal? I hear amazing stories about Eleganza back in its heyday. Is it that perhaps girls attitudes have just changed over the last few years. To me it just seems the hotness factor has dropped off over the last 5 years or when I started visiting Montreal. There's a lot of mediocrity and crap shoots. Although as I said I love the city and culture so it's always a nice weekend. For you US guys - Boston, NYC, etc - have you noticed any changes on the quality of the Montreal escort scene over last few years that influences your number of visits?
Montreal as a Hobby Destination in 2017
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I can tell you 100% that Euphoria is the same or better than Eleganza was. I stopped going to Montreal when Eleganza shut down and, if Euphoria shuts down, I would stop going again. (I live on Toronto.)
I thought the escorts in NNJ/NYC were prohibitively expensive plus there is a real risk of jail. Are there some quality escorts there? What agencies would you recommend.
I thought the escorts in NNJ/NYC were prohibitively expensive plus there is a real risk of jail. Are there some quality escorts there? What agencies would you recommend.
My Beautiful Vixens has Euphoria quality, or close to it. But they're in the Meadowlands. Quick Uber ride. $300/hour, $200 halfLear Talent is ok in NYC. Really hit or miss. Same with Gentlemens choice NYCBelle de Jour is top notch but expensive. $400/hourGinasgfes is cheaper and pretty good
The market of sex and desire has changed somewhat. Additional options like seeking arrangements are also now possible. The result is less small, skinny, white girls as escorts then a few years ago. I doubt most people still addicted to sex care. Who is a top girl ?
I don't mind hobbying in the U.S. What irks me is the screening process which I understand but annoying. With the good exchange rates I don't mind heading back to Montreal. The quality is still there. Agencies like Euphoria, Vogue. XO and Nadya's. Only segment I don't bother is the indie HDH market. Way back 10 years ago there were some quality women worth the time but now it is populated by warn outs that are pass their prime.
Robert first thing I would ask you is to make sure you do no suffer from the "it was better back in the old days" syndrome 
If so just take a long break or as you suggest, stay 2-3 years in the US.
As we grow older everything is life seems to be better back in the old days. Hey even a president was elected... Ok I wont go there
Patron:
1. Spot on! Never ever in my life I tough I would be into Unicorn style... Now I am craving for my next encounter there. Unicorn is unique and gives an incredible edge to Montreal sp scene.
2. Hold on here... If they were 10-15 pounds less back in the days they were tooth-pic or what? I mean look at the line up of most popular agency! Very honestly myself I would love a few more pounds on most of them.
3. Can't really comment other then saying I do not give marks in review and never ever care for them when I read reviews.
Cheers,
p.s. I have hobbied a bit in the US but never ever will again I since I called a cop back in Orlando few years ago.
If so just take a long break or as you suggest, stay 2-3 years in the US. As we grow older everything is life seems to be better back in the old days. Hey even a president was elected... Ok I wont go there
Patron:
1. Spot on! Never ever in my life I tough I would be into Unicorn style... Now I am craving for my next encounter there. Unicorn is unique and gives an incredible edge to Montreal sp scene.
2. Hold on here... If they were 10-15 pounds less back in the days they were tooth-pic or what? I mean look at the line up of most popular agency! Very honestly myself I would love a few more pounds on most of them.
3. Can't really comment other then saying I do not give marks in review and never ever care for them when I read reviews.
Cheers,
p.s. I have hobbied a bit in the US but never ever will again I since I called a cop back in Orlando few years ago.
Oh here is another little tidbit. If you are the only guy she sees in her whole four hour shift as opposed to seeing three guys she will be much more relaxed and the experience would be much more memorable. Two hours is good as well but one hour things are rushed somewhat I can see how the experience would be lacking.
Another issue I have with U.S. hobbying is too much implants, too fancy photoshopped photography and chic is kinda fat. LOL. I don't pay for fatness. In Montreal the quality is definitely still there after all these years.
Another issue I have with U.S. hobbying is too much implants, too fancy photoshopped photography and chic is kinda fat. LOL. I don't pay for fatness. In Montreal the quality is definitely still there after all these years.
I completely agree with you Numerati. I usually don’t do 1 hour bookings, 90 minutes is usually my minimum as I feel 1 hour is too rushed unless I’ve seen the SP before. Usually the only time I’ll book 1 hour is if I’m seeing multiple SPs in a day.
Well I have lived here since the beginning of July and OMG, I've never seen so many beautiful women. The choice is overwhelming, especially knowing how many I'll actually see. I lived in Berlin for a year and this is even richer in choice. Especially compared to Florida, where I normally live. Yes, 2 hours would be great if one can afford it. I've been doing pretty good with an hour but recently started moving to 1.5 hours. I dream of the day where I can spend 3 hours with one of these girls...
RobertNYC,
I have been traveling to Montreal from the USA for long weekends since 2002. Eleganza was the best agency in Montreal from around 2006-20009 or so. That was their heyday. I went to the only Eleganza agency party in 2007. It was great. It was a great agency and John was a skilled recruiter, although not the greatest with customer service.
It's hard to compare eras but I thought 2002-2007 was great because of Montreal Girlfriends, French Kiss Society, Allissa of Montreal (all HDH agencies) and finally Eleganza which became a great market price agency. After Eleganza stopped doing business there was a lull until Euphoria and XO took over in the past few years with young and energetic frontmen. I think Montreal has always been a premiere destination in North America. The HDH/LDL dichotomy doesn't really exist any more. Euphoria and XO have achieved tremendous success in the past few years which rivals Eleganza on a larger scale IMHO.
I have been traveling to Montreal from the USA for long weekends since 2002. Eleganza was the best agency in Montreal from around 2006-20009 or so. That was their heyday. I went to the only Eleganza agency party in 2007. It was great. It was a great agency and John was a skilled recruiter, although not the greatest with customer service.
It's hard to compare eras but I thought 2002-2007 was great because of Montreal Girlfriends, French Kiss Society, Allissa of Montreal (all HDH agencies) and finally Eleganza which became a great market price agency. After Eleganza stopped doing business there was a lull until Euphoria and XO took over in the past few years with young and energetic frontmen. I think Montreal has always been a premiere destination in North America. The HDH/LDL dichotomy doesn't really exist any more. Euphoria and XO have achieved tremendous success in the past few years which rivals Eleganza on a larger scale IMHO.
no offence robertNYC, but my guess is it is you that has changed, not the quality of the scene or the agencies. As we get older, we get pickier and it takes better and better looking girls with better and better service to get us excited. If anything, with the explosion of the internet over the last 10 years, the quality of the girls on average and the quality of the service has gone up. That being said, I have noticed that there are cycles within any one agency. For a while it can seem like one particular agency has the most amazing lineup for a few months, then it seems like the lineup has been less amazing for a few months..then it is time to switch favorite agencies. The hotties are still out there, just somewhere else...
I neglected to mention IN in my prior post. They had a remarkable 2 or 3 year run in Montreal (and touring in the USA) from 2004-2006 or so, which also included their sister agency, Elite Montreal Models. They were my go to agency for around 2 years, before Eleganza started peaking.
Most Montreal agencies have gone in cycles. A few have achieved remarkable longevity for 10 or more years, such as Montreal XXXtase, Montreal Sex City and Asservissante. But most of the previously mentioned agencies in my prior post shined brightly from 2-4 years and then flamed out. I think the ones that are really banging for 2-3 years just burn out and lose energy. Euphoria and XO right now are feeding off the energy of young and enterprising operators. Youth and vigor are good assets to have in this business when also coupled with brains and people smarts.
The last few years have been a very good time in the annals of Montreal escort history.
Most Montreal agencies have gone in cycles. A few have achieved remarkable longevity for 10 or more years, such as Montreal XXXtase, Montreal Sex City and Asservissante. But most of the previously mentioned agencies in my prior post shined brightly from 2-4 years and then flamed out. I think the ones that are really banging for 2-3 years just burn out and lose energy. Euphoria and XO right now are feeding off the energy of young and enterprising operators. Youth and vigor are good assets to have in this business when also coupled with brains and people smarts.
The last few years have been a very good time in the annals of Montreal escort history.
Being a local you have a much better advantage because you don't have time constraints.. Now if you are a local with $$$$$$ without any attachments and nothing to hold you back where you can be seen publicly with an SP it is the best life out there. Yet if you have a personality and social you probably wouldn't hobby as much as you think you would. If you are a visiting tourist you are under time pressure so you have to spend your time efficiently and wisely so you have to have a Plan A, B and a C. It sucks when you are up in Montreal and the girl you want to see is not available and a few days later after you return home you see the girl you want to see is working.
The prior posts imply that you cannot advance book which simply isn't true. If you are booking multi hours and have a particular girl in mind, advance bookings are doable. It does help if the agency knows you as a reliable client, which is a little bit different than favoritism.
I like that the agencies post when girls are fully booked. In the past, I did get an appointment with a girl that was fully booked. I booked another girl who was not fully booked but simultaneously asked to be put on the wait list of another girl at the same agency who was fully booked, knowing she would likely have a cancellation. She did have a cancellation, the cancelled time slot worked, then I cancelled the non fully booked girl and I saw the fully booked girl. It's simple- if you have some imagination and do not have a defeatist attitude, you do not get defeated. The attitude reflected in the prior posts results in defeat as soon as the poster looks at who is fully booked. Because of my plan and attitude, I was not defeated. It's the same here as in sports. You have imagination, or not. When Tom Brady staged the drive that won the Super Bowl, all he was thinking was, "how are we going to get the ball in the end zone?" He was not saying to himself, "shit, this fucker is over, I better pack it in and take a knee." Getting bookings with competitive, busy agencies works the same way. If you have a few imaginative plans one of them can possibly result in a touchdown drive., even with a girl who is fully booked. It's quite possible in 2017 to stage two plans like I have described above, with two different agencies, simultaneously, and execute one of them before the end of one day. All one needs is a fully charged smartphone, and an imagination. Having good smartphone typing skills also helps in these situations, where you are simultaneously texting multiple agencies about 3-4 girls.
It used to be around 10-12 years ago that agencies would post "on today" girls who were not working, or else had cancelled their shift for the day. There was one agency that was notorious for doing this. One day I called them and was told that a girl who was shown "on Today" had called in very early in the day that she would not be working. However they did not update their website or the MERB thread linking to their website, but instead kept bumping the thread with a link showing the girl was working when she was already known to have cancelled that day's shift. They kept doing this the rest of the day and into the evening. I posted about it because I felt it was very deceptive and misleading to the consumer. Frankly it also wasted their own Booker's time as he had to tell everyone who called she was not working. The agency did this to misleadingly create the impression that more girls were working than there actually were. In reality they had 1 or 2 girls who were actually on, whereas the website showed 4 or 5.
In 2017, we have some younger and tech savvy guys in the business and this type of business practice would never fly. The widespread development of the smartphone enhanced communications between agency and client. As a result, in 2017, with smartphones now being widely used, we have much better customer service and efficiency in bookings then we did in the pre-2010 or so era. All the top agencies now use text messaging as a booking method and it frankly enables one to execute imaginative plans with much greater ease. I cannot even remember the last booking I made via a telephone call, as opposed to text messaging. It's been years, I think.
I like that the agencies post when girls are fully booked. In the past, I did get an appointment with a girl that was fully booked. I booked another girl who was not fully booked but simultaneously asked to be put on the wait list of another girl at the same agency who was fully booked, knowing she would likely have a cancellation. She did have a cancellation, the cancelled time slot worked, then I cancelled the non fully booked girl and I saw the fully booked girl. It's simple- if you have some imagination and do not have a defeatist attitude, you do not get defeated. The attitude reflected in the prior posts results in defeat as soon as the poster looks at who is fully booked. Because of my plan and attitude, I was not defeated. It's the same here as in sports. You have imagination, or not. When Tom Brady staged the drive that won the Super Bowl, all he was thinking was, "how are we going to get the ball in the end zone?" He was not saying to himself, "shit, this fucker is over, I better pack it in and take a knee." Getting bookings with competitive, busy agencies works the same way. If you have a few imaginative plans one of them can possibly result in a touchdown drive., even with a girl who is fully booked. It's quite possible in 2017 to stage two plans like I have described above, with two different agencies, simultaneously, and execute one of them before the end of one day. All one needs is a fully charged smartphone, and an imagination. Having good smartphone typing skills also helps in these situations, where you are simultaneously texting multiple agencies about 3-4 girls.
It used to be around 10-12 years ago that agencies would post "on today" girls who were not working, or else had cancelled their shift for the day. There was one agency that was notorious for doing this. One day I called them and was told that a girl who was shown "on Today" had called in very early in the day that she would not be working. However they did not update their website or the MERB thread linking to their website, but instead kept bumping the thread with a link showing the girl was working when she was already known to have cancelled that day's shift. They kept doing this the rest of the day and into the evening. I posted about it because I felt it was very deceptive and misleading to the consumer. Frankly it also wasted their own Booker's time as he had to tell everyone who called she was not working. The agency did this to misleadingly create the impression that more girls were working than there actually were. In reality they had 1 or 2 girls who were actually on, whereas the website showed 4 or 5.
In 2017, we have some younger and tech savvy guys in the business and this type of business practice would never fly. The widespread development of the smartphone enhanced communications between agency and client. As a result, in 2017, with smartphones now being widely used, we have much better customer service and efficiency in bookings then we did in the pre-2010 or so era. All the top agencies now use text messaging as a booking method and it frankly enables one to execute imaginative plans with much greater ease. I cannot even remember the last booking I made via a telephone call, as opposed to text messaging. It's been years, I think.
I agree with your point that US escorts are not inferior, you just have to pay more and look harder to find them.
The NYC scene now is more or less dominated by underground FS clubs catering to locals, making it hard or impossible for tourists or casual visitors to NYC to know what to do, unless they have a local friend who is a member in these clubs. The best alternatives are the FS massage parlors, which basically are in two categories, the Asian MPs and the ones staffed by mostly Eastern Europeans and Southern Americans. Most of these MPs offer extra services for additional charges and when those are added in, it can get expensive but YMMV depending on the girl and the connection.
I also agree that Montreal is an ideal destination for a younger hobbyist who wants to see a variety and volume of SPs at a great value. However it is also a great value for an older hobbyist who would rather see one or two high quality providers for multi hours. Multi hour dates and parties in Montreal can be a great value that cannot be achieved in the USA. Not only is this due to the lower hourly rate for a full service escort but the exchange rate for the US$, which as of yesterday was $1.25, is still quite favorable. Therefore each hour one books of Montreal escort time will increasingly serve to offset travel costs. If you only see one or two girls one hour each, it may not be a good value when factoring in travel costs. It's better to book multiple girls or multiple hours to achieve best value. The 3 hour private parties I sometimes have with my friends in groups of 4-5 are simply not possible in our state for that price and quality.
The NYC scene now is more or less dominated by underground FS clubs catering to locals, making it hard or impossible for tourists or casual visitors to NYC to know what to do, unless they have a local friend who is a member in these clubs. The best alternatives are the FS massage parlors, which basically are in two categories, the Asian MPs and the ones staffed by mostly Eastern Europeans and Southern Americans. Most of these MPs offer extra services for additional charges and when those are added in, it can get expensive but YMMV depending on the girl and the connection.
I also agree that Montreal is an ideal destination for a younger hobbyist who wants to see a variety and volume of SPs at a great value. However it is also a great value for an older hobbyist who would rather see one or two high quality providers for multi hours. Multi hour dates and parties in Montreal can be a great value that cannot be achieved in the USA. Not only is this due to the lower hourly rate for a full service escort but the exchange rate for the US$, which as of yesterday was $1.25, is still quite favorable. Therefore each hour one books of Montreal escort time will increasingly serve to offset travel costs. If you only see one or two girls one hour each, it may not be a good value when factoring in travel costs. It's better to book multiple girls or multiple hours to achieve best value. The 3 hour private parties I sometimes have with my friends in groups of 4-5 are simply not possible in our state for that price and quality.
I think you value Montreal better when you are a local and ask yourself, would I do this elsewhere?
I do travel a lot and the only city I see girl is Toronto, strickly to see asian girl. Other then that I say we are heavily spoiled here
Cheers,
p.s. did saw a girl in vancouver 3 months ago... une petite faiblesse de ma part...
I do travel a lot and the only city I see girl is Toronto, strickly to see asian girl. Other then that I say we are heavily spoiled here
Cheers,
p.s. did saw a girl in vancouver 3 months ago... une petite faiblesse de ma part...
Boysz!
Let's do a retrospective of previous years and agencies that are on the top of their game and we can compare if in 2017 there's a big change since.
I'll start and let you guys fill in the blanks. Name and dates might be different though my memory fails overtime. I'll update the list based on your comments.
2017 - 2014
Vogue, Euphoria, XO, Exxxtase, Mojo, Unicorn, MikeMansion, Godiva
2014-2011
Goodgirls, Exxxtase,
2011-2008
Goodgirls / GFUN, Eleganza, Exxxtase
2008-2005
Eleganza, Les fille de Monsieur Jacques,
2005-2002
Eleganza, Dangerous Curve,
2002-1999
Asservissante, Les filles de Monsieur Jacques, Heartbreaker
1999-1996
I was not in the game yet still chasing the gnd.
Longtimer
Let's do a retrospective of previous years and agencies that are on the top of their game and we can compare if in 2017 there's a big change since.
I'll start and let you guys fill in the blanks. Name and dates might be different though my memory fails overtime. I'll update the list based on your comments.
2017 - 2014
Vogue, Euphoria, XO, Exxxtase, Mojo, Unicorn, MikeMansion, Godiva
2014-2011
Goodgirls, Exxxtase,
2011-2008
Goodgirls / GFUN, Eleganza, Exxxtase
2008-2005
Eleganza, Les fille de Monsieur Jacques,
2005-2002
Eleganza, Dangerous Curve,
2002-1999
Asservissante, Les filles de Monsieur Jacques, Heartbreaker
1999-1996
I was not in the game yet still chasing the gnd.
Longtimer
SSJ living here is very hard you know. Sometimes it feels like putting a diabetic in a fountain of chocolate
Cheers,
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