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I first went up to Montreal back in 1997. I felt like a kid in a new playground. Agencies like Jacques, Fantasme and Agency XXX alone could provide almost anything a guy wanted within reason. Two really good looking, tight young girls with and dfk, no problem. It was a hedonists playground. I remember Veronique, Marianne, Mary, Coralie and Nadia of Jacques; Samantha of first time. They were knockouts and gave great service. The agencies were honest, customer service related and did not hustle. The girls were sexy, and enjoyed pleasing guys. In the last 2 years, I think even though there may be more smaller agencies on the scene, the selection of even the most reputable agencies have become questionable. I don`t know if it is because of the supply, less girls coming into the business? Are all the nicer girls at the higher end agencies? I have heard good and bad about the more expensive agencies also. It`s not worth spending $2000 for a frustrating time with a few good experiences. Sweet Dreamz is probably one of the last honest agencies of quality left on the lower end, but the staff is very limited. Elganza has both higher priced and lower priced girls and the services vary widely. Maybe it is better to stick to the higher end, but be selective and keep to a budget?

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Daydreamer41,

Satin Dreamz, run by Celine is in the lower end, the most solid choice, i found, out of the 3 agency's, i am currently using. Good customer service, honesty, good girls..

in LDL, i found good choices at Freedom (look at the reviews)
Eric is honest..but he is also a good salesman...

At Thetis, there is nice girls...but it is student run..staff..may not be there when you want them to be there..

Other Merbites could refer you to LDL agency they are using
each of them, must have a couple of good choices..

Also, in case you don't know.. Celine of Satin Dreamz is starting a new venture in HDH level.... so keep looking on Merb.

We still can have fun, without breaking the bank

My 2 cents

These days, we have to make more web research, to get the most quality and choice for our money ..this is why Merb is important.
 
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DD:

Samantha of First Time is still around. She is Samatha at Sybelle. Do a search and you will find her contact info. In fact, she posts here every so often. The good times can still be found.
 

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I tried calling Samantha. There was something wrong with her phone when I was up there. She is in between the high end and lower end.
 

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I agree with you daydreamer;

When I started out partaking in the SP hobby, in 1996, you could call Fantasme, or a myriad of other agencies whose ads where in the Journal de Montreal and be pretty sure you where getting a nice ripe young female.

I remember my first time, I was nervous as hell and she gave me the best BJ I`d ever gotten. I dunno where she might be now, she was using a generic name ([email protected]). Red short hair, blue eyes, about 5``6`. She also had spectacular REAL breasts.

I also remember a threesome I had in late 2001 with two Fantasme girls, Caroline and Chanelle. I still use that memory as lighter fluid for the nights when I barbecue alone...

Now you look at the SP section in the Journal de Montreal and it`s not only about 1/3 the size, but they`re mostly independent.

I had a pretty decent run first with Fantasme up to about late 2001, then with Jacques until he went out of business. After he came back with his new agency, except for the incredible Nadia (retired) all the other girls he sent me had at least two or three major flaws. Some where plain bad experiences, the same goes for Fantasme. Fantasme by the way, I dunno who the girl that answers the phone in the afternoon is but she`s not the brightest light on the Christmas tree, and when you ask her to book someone for such and such time she is sooooo vague.

``She`ll be there but a bit later``
- ``How much later?``
- ``Quite a bit``...

WTF is that????

SatinDreamz has the best intentions but it`s almost mandatory to book at least a day in advance and that`s impossible for me most of the time. The same goes with the newcomers Thetis and Freedom.

I tried incall a few times with zzcream in their Dorval location but I only batted .333 with Kim being the best and Kattia being by far the worst of the three times I went there. Plus I don`t like the incall scene, it bugs me.

I wish I could just pick up the phone and order a girl like you would a pizza, red hair, green eyes, freckles, hold the stretchmarks, extra breasts, long legs with nice calves, pedicure...

:rolleyes:

Instead I`m stuck calling Jacques as his agency is pretty much the only one that can provide a girl at the drop of a hat. Unfortunately, his girls aren`t very pretty, a flaw that I used to be able to overlook and for which they USED TO compensate with excellent service such as TC, 2SOG, positions, etc.

damn...

-K
 

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Hey Koenig

I agree the women with Jacques have gone totally downhill, I find all of the women now are below par except Patricia who from rumours has now left him

Mitch
 

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Originally posted by mitch69
Hey Koenig

I agree the women with Jacques have gone totally downhill, I find all of the women now are below par except Patricia who from rumours has now left him

Mitch
Patricia certainly left Jacques and she did not have kind words for him or his agency. I met her thru Asservissante (in my trip report) and I am not sure she is staying there. Martin said she did not confirm her shift the next day and was a no show. The girl rocks and is hot, but I think she feels rather under appreciated in a few different ways. How would you like to be her working in an agency like JDM where most girls range from a 3 to a 6, and she is very close to top of the scale.
 
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FYI Koenig, The incredible Nadia has resurfaced at Satin Dreamz, after being with Jacques, Sensual Delights, Allissa Montreal (now defunct), etc...

CA
 

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I agree 100% with what has been said. I entered the scene in 1999 and had good luck with some of Tina's girls at the old Heartbreakers and with Crystelle and Savanah (Malicia) at Fantasme. Sweet Dreams also some good ones. Back then the selection was excellent and the prices were reasonable. This was before the "HDH's"

Lately I've had some luck with some of Martin's girls, Valerie and Annabelle (now independent at HDH prices) and with Satin Dreams. Overall it is harder now, you have to do your homework, but most of the really good lookers have gone HDH, girls you could have 4 or 5 years ago for $140/$150 :(
 

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I first discovered the Montreal scene in the early-mid nineties. Pre-internet days (at least for me) so I used the papers and the yellow pages to book. Had more good experiences than bad.
I forget what the prices were but I seem to remember $120.

Never used the same agency twice, but mainly because I could never remember the name.

My fondest memories are a woman named Percila (spelling?) who worked out of an agency called Nightflight or Nighthawks or something (I did actually see her 2x), and a young girl from Northern England whose name I can't remember. Very pretty, very blonde, VERY liberal.

I still manage to have a good time in Montreal even though, since moving from the private to the public sector I hardly ever get up there anymore.
 

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I became a bona-fide 'john' when i discovered Canbest, in the late 90's. Many of the reviews on that board made it incredibly tempting to see espys. I never would have discovered gems such as Serina, Gabrielle and Eve from Centerfolds if it wasn't for the internet.

Pictures from the websites i discovered through Canbest are still frozen in my memory. How can i forget the beauty of Prescilla and Jessica from Sweet Dreams? Cassandra and a cast of others from Heartbreakers? The Rosanna Arquette-lookalike i once met at Sweet Dreams named Melane? I also remember the racist comments on some of the Mtl sites, indicating there were seeing no black or indu clients (pas de noires ou d'indous). I can just imagine all the fuss this would cause today.

Like nostalgic porn, it always seems like it was better back then. Was it really?
 

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daydreamer41

I have for several weeks been wanting to write almost exactly what you wrote.

Sometime soon I will write of my last trip to Montreal recently and why there is a good chance it was in fact my last trip.

Boy, the good old days with Fantasme and Agency XXX. Memories that continued to bring me back even as the fun times turned rare and more expensive.

At the high end maybe you may find that a really good time with a beautiful woman is still available BUT at the high end with multiple hours requirements I might as well go to where bargains are found elsewhere. Even possibly in the States

I know one thing for sure. There is no difference between paying $140-$180. It's hit and miss. The agencies don't look for specific type girls, it's whoever answers their ads that works for them . So you will get a similar girl from Executive for $140 as from Martin at $160.

If you're smart. at that range, you will stick with $140 agencies (Luxure, Executive, ...)
 

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As an American who is a long-time hobbyist in the States, the UK, and more recently in Toronto, I still think the prices and quality in Canada are fabulous. Even the HDH girls in Montreal are better and much less expensive than the mediocre girls in the US, and they are 1/3 the price of similar quality girls in the UK. So while I understand that it might have been even better in the "good old days," some of us still think it's the best place on the planet to practice this hobby! I know I'm going to be spending more time in Montreal which is only a 50 minute plane ride and a 5 hour car trip from Boston. Everything is relative, I guess.
 

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Originally posted by madmax
As an American who is a long-time hobbyist in the States, the UK, and more recently in Toronto, I still think the prices and quality in Canada are fabulous. Even the HDH girls in Montreal are better and much less expensive than the mediocre girls in the US, and they are 1/3 the price of similar quality girls in the UK. So while I understand that it might have been even better in the "good old days," some of us still think it's the best place on the planet to practice this hobby! I know I'm going to be spending more time in Montreal which is only a 50 minute plane ride and a 5 hour car trip from Boston. Everything is relative, I guess.
madmax,

After this last trip, I don't know if I can agree with you. With a few misses, the hotel bill and traveling costs, the total cost adds up fast. And on one ocassion, after having refused a couple of girls for shear ugliness, the agency owner (well known) acted in utter disbelief and refused to talk to me during that trip. It's too much of a hit and miss. I refuse to pay for a woman whom I have a hard time looking at let alone getting a hard on. A couple of women on this last trip gave me the creeps. I haven't tried the HDH girls, but I don't think they are on the par as some of the girls I used to get just a few years back. Plus, 2 girls for 2 hours at Independents Network is $900. You can only do that a couple of times per trip. It all adds up.

daydreamer
 

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Toronto has been very very good to me, but I think I've pretty much exhausted that market, so I'm turning now to Montreal. I only deal with the HDH girls in both places so I don't have the LDL experience with which to compare it. I'm comparing both Toronto and Montreal to the US and the UK, and compared to those two places both cities are still a bargain.
 

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Take a break for a while, until the situation gets better. Everything goes in cycles. I go to Montreal only to live out fantasies I could not in the US. If that is not possible, I just cool it and work, do my other hobbies and relax. In the states near home, I am very selective, careful and do not hobby at any high frequency. There are alternatives $250 and under which are very good. In fact I spent more this trip than I would spend in a year in total in the states, and I did not enjoy myself except for 2 or 3 sessions.
 

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A Plan B would be great to have. I have no particular plan B. Friends have suggested different locations.

But just because there is no plan B, doesn't mean that one should continue with a Plan A that no longer works.

I've got the funds and was once happy to spend it because there was a smile on my face as the women left.

There were trips where I saw as many as three women a day. It was fun and I couldn't wait for the next.

Now as I wait for them, I almost dread what is coming and frequently am happy to see them leave.

Occasionally there is the exception and I made the last trip because hope springs eternal. Reality was less pleasant.

Saw three girls from three agencies including one with great reviews and that was enough.

The one reviewed positively from a very recommended agency din't turn me on at all. I always forget that raves are subjective.

One that would have turned me on with her look, stunk. Literally, she stunk. A shower together didn't remove the body odor stink.

The best, of the three, announced after one shot that you get only one shot and was soon gone.

In the past I left looking forward to a next trip. I didn't leave this time, or in fact the last time, with any urge to return. I did return and was sorry.

EagerBeaver. As you criticize those of us who you call cheapasses understand that what made Montreal attractive for many of us was not one or two great experiences with a high price escort, it was particularly the opposite. Many experiences in a short visit at a reasonable price with many attractive girls.

That was once available. And that made Montreal hobby Mecca. It is no longer available for certain as you admit in an indirect way.
 

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EagerBeaver, I did research the spreadsheet and this site. I could do the HDL's but what is the point?

I could stay down here in the US and spend $300 per hour at an incall without the travel cost and the hotel cost and be ahead.

My whole point in the beginning was Montreal was a place not so long ago where you have a good time with very open minded and hot young women (often 2 at a time) at a very reasonable price, where if you did the same in the states would cost 2 or 3 times as much. But when half of my experiences are mediocre, and the agencies sometimes use strong man tatics of take her or don't call me again; and if I did take her, I would lose my lunch, it's time to reconsider. And I have read that some of the high end ladies don't always come thru. In fact, the higher end agencies will raise their prices also if we all use them exclusively.

I think, though, as long as you feed the situation (agencies with bad service and dishonest practices), it won't get better anytime soon.

If the supply is poor, shouldn't the demand also be poor? Would you keep on going to a diner that gave you heartburn? and pay more when they raise their prices, even though the quality of the product is less?

I agree with Cando. The situation has changed. That was my reason for starting this thread.
 

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EB,
I research on this board before I make the call to book the session. However, there are times when I feel it`s my civic duty to TOFTT and share my good/bad experience to the merb community. I feel I should give back a little after taken so much from this board. Case in point, I will be posting a review of Chloe of companion soon. As in my personal experience, even with research, there is no guarantee as the reviews are mostly subjective (adding occasional shill in the mix). I have to agree with you that my batting average improves with research.

For plan b, I find Victoria, BC to be a good alternative pooning destination. They are mostly incalls, and although the service may be a bit restrictive (e.g. no ), you do sometimes get beyond GFE service if you click with the girl (as I have with Kassidy of Island beauty). See https://perb.cc for other perberts` recommendation. The agency price are pretty much standard at $160.

Cheers,
MF

PS: if you have any other website recommendation, please post. I, in the past, have used TER, but I feel their policy of having at least 2 reviews per month causes many posters to make up story to keep their account active.
 
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