Hello all,
Everybody knows that, but CBJ is not enjoyable to many hobbyists. It's also safe to put a condom on my dick and stick it in a gas pipe, but I do not enjoy it. My penis is densensitized to a CBJ to the point that it is not sexual activity. It is nothing. It is similar to breathing and I do not pay to breath the air.
Well, I've never involved my penis in anything other than a human female, but if you send photos of this hot hot hot gas pipe..... I guess Connecticut pipes are special.
This is a completely false presumption, because those who believe they are in a"full time monogamous" relationship are usually wrong and when they find out, it's after they have been fucked by their cheating significant other many times. I have a close friend who is a private investigator whose money is made almost exclusively compiling video and photographic proof of the lies your so called monogamous people have been living, and then dropping it on them.
So your attempt to portray this as our problem is pure fiction. By and large the hobbyist community is safer than the liars who are the ones having BBFS and spreading these infections while in "monogamous relationships".
There are four main flaws with this reasoning.
First, your presumption seems to be that cheating is much more the norm among so-called monogamous people, and I presume you think that when they cheat it's not just once. Having been around the boards for 10 years now I have seen that many here took up this hobby because they became jaded about "normal" relationships for one reason or another likely to do somehow with some kind of betrayal experience. So it's understandable that you and many others as hobbyists have some jaded feelings and such is the flaw of projecting those back as typical of monogamous relationships.
Second, by using a private investigator who specializes in uncovering extramarital activities as a reference for the whole picture is especially flawed. If you are going to use sources who specialize in working the harsher side of society such fireman, police, nurses you will get a distorted generalized view simply because what they seek out and fill their lives with is harsh, not because that is the real balance of everything.
Third, the numbers just don't add up. People catch diseases being safe, no matter how safe you try to be it can still happen. Now factor in the mix of hard working escorts and frequenting hobbyists, multiply all the escorts the clients see over time, times all the clients the escorts see in a week times all the clients escorts see in a 52 weeks. Then make a presumption that both are also having some sort of "real" relationships and the numbers for each side in this hobby are staggering versus the possible numbers a man or woman may see in "normal" sexual contact...even if not monogamous.
Lastly, the presumption of safety in this hobby is the most critical error. Two private polls in the past both indicate that between 25-35% of those in this hobby have had unprotected sex at least once. We know that escorts have initiated offers of BBFS for extra pay and we know hobbyists have initiated offers of pay for BBFS. If you look at the numbers of both side mixing it up in this hobby then look at the percentage of those who indicate involvement in BBFS it's just not possible that hobbying is safer over the long haul than those who cheat on monogamous relationships.
Getting a disease and suffering with it is very hard to understand till you get it. Once you get it you are not gonna go away painlessly. You will suffer and be stuck in the hospital enduring one test after another. You will die eventually but not before suffering. Abstinence for me is a far better choice then to catch a disease and suffer in the hospital. Dying from a disease is no way for a man to die.
However Cloud, the way you wrote this is totally overblown, alarmist, and the extreme scenario you guarantee is outlandish. You make no indication you are talking exclusively about HIV or AIDS or any fatal diseases yet you insist "you will die", even though being resistant to antibiotics does not necessarily make something fatal.
I agree totally with EB here that regarding what I have bolded above "this is a very wild, absurd and irresponsible" statement by you. You sound like some Evangelist telling everyone they will go to Hell. The fact is most STDs are treatable, curable, and there is usually minimal suffering involved in the vast majority of cases if they are taken care of in a timely and proper manner, unlike the hell world you seem to want to insist on.
You really have generalized badly here by guaranteeing a fatal scenario in the manner you wrote your post above.
That is the million dollar question and there is no one answer to that one. It all depends on the individual and what risks they are willing to take. Whether the risks are worth depends on the individual. That is something you have to decide for yourself and if you are ready to suffer with a disease.
Now this is the truth. Both you and EB seem to want to take sides, yet the truth is what happens depends on individuals and the risks they chose to take and who they chose to take them with...whether in monogamy or hobbying.
Cheers,
Merlot
