You can see a real lady that will do all your fantasies in person and there is so much dirty free porn so why would I pay just to look at someone online! I don’t think so!
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No, you can't ask for a refund - I mean I subscribe (meaning I pay whatever the asking price is) and then unsubscribe right away, so that I don't forget to do so later. I will still have access for the rest of the month until the renewal comes up, but I will already have cancelled. Sorry if that wasn't clear!
It lowers th3 quality of the content. Many weak men are just happy to pay 20 dollars for 2 photos. This made women lazy and men weaker.
Mostly no production value and it" empowers women " by getting fucked by lovers who fuck them for free. Baxk I the day the girls at least made money for it. Now they fuck dipshits hoping to sell content, which pushes to look for more dudes to fuck because their simps /fans need more new content.
Ooof I sense a lot of frustration in your reply brother.
A lot of girls tried to maximise their revenue streams I don't see anything wrong with that. In the end, real grinders succeed, while others don't... this isn't a new concept. I do think we live in a very unbalanced time that has had the negative trickle down effect across the board. 2000$ for a 1 bedroom shithole in the mile-end is insane to me far more than anything happening on OF and of course trickling down to anyone's sense of value. But As for paying 20$ for 2 photos, as crazy as it may seem, I'd pay way more for 1 of a neighbour of mine if she did OF. Every morning I can smell her amazing perfume in the hall way on my way out to work which always starts my day with a smile. In other words, something is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it.
To be honest, OF was fun during covid. But I never subbed for more than a month for any girl. SO MANY HOT GIRLS at the price of a pack of cigarettes is nothing but once I've seen her in her glory, I have absolutely no incentive to just stick around. That's the advantage of holding the wallet. I just can't see myself spending a single dollar since tho. You should see my amazon history if you want to see stupid drunken purchases probably due to me being "weak". As for the partners they collab with, I can't say they are dipshits per say as I don't know them, douchy perhaps, but I certainly think that their performances are boring to watch borderline cringy even - but that's just my opinion. I'm straight as an arrow, but I want to see the girl get railed by a monster toy or dick, 6" or less is an immediate skip because it just doesn't look right on screen (or in the mirror lol). I mean, it is a performance after all. I do think a lot of them just don't get the busines side of things. They are so focused on the presentation and never really address the substance. But whatever, like you said, some people will just buy anything... that's on them.
I will agree that a lot of girls have shit content however... 5 second videos, bla bla about their opinions on whatever glue they use on their nails, sharing their immature views of life and rediculous inspirational quotes from a book they never actually read. Pissed off because people laughed at them because they won't donate for "premium content" never able to get over their egos and understand it wasn't because of the price but rather their conceited attitude and knowing how uninspiring their premium content would be. The same could be said about strippers. I remember a time where girls put crazy efforts into their performances (back when they had the 3 dances). Now too many just walk around doing nothing - I can't remember the last time I went to a strip club because its just so fucking boring.
OF was a godsend to many girls. One I subbed to was working in a Tim Horton 5am shift at minimum wage. She made the jump to OF and made a decent living thanks to the grind she was willing to commit, then realized this wasn't for her and went back to school after closing her profile. I actually tipped her directly when she shared her results on IG after her first semester. It was hot to see her go through such a positive transformation.
So ya, it helps to identify the uninspired girls whereever they may be so you can avoid them like the fucking pleague. Weird times we live in.
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It's frustration in the sense that it messed up a lot of things in different levels.
1. Now everyone is a model or a male producer. Which diminishes the work of the real professionals or those who want to put effort into this
2.men became simps. Many girls see the OF subscribers as useful idiots. Rightfully so.
3. Now many girls life goal is to have an onlyfans ans buy her house and shit. Reality is many " opular ones " don't e en ame 3k a month. Ans e en those who make 10k or more a month don't see that the internet is forever and girls will keep coming. A new girl who is 18 will replace the old ones. The money influx will be less and then the girls won't make the same money as before. Who will they blame?
4. Next generation of kids won't be able to tell if the your momma joke is indeed a joke or their friends just found a video of his mom getting railed by dudes that are not the dad.
Meh, I say adapt or die. Things always have and always will change and I think that's a damn good thing.
Proclaiming themselves as something, doesn't make them successful at it. Same as "professionals" never guaranteed they were any good no matter how much effort they put into it (are we talking about porn? cause they are still doing their thing). And from what I've seen sure, lots of content was shit, but lots of content was also pretty damn good. Those that got the right gear, got the right people to edit (some themselves) do a pretty decent job if you ask me. But ya... holding the a smartphone with shit lighting and crappy audio can sometimes even be good if the talent has skills (but ya, rarely is tho).
You know that the majority of SPs have always said the same about Johns right? You don't have to search far to read what they really think of "hobbyist". Mind you, a lot of people go way overboard in their obsessions, but such fetishes have been around since forever, just ask a financial dom. How many times have I seen crusty dudes enter the strip club acting a big game just because they have a crisp 100 dollar bill thinking girls would be impressed somehow? Suckers have always been around. I have no pitty for those guys sorry - not sorry.
There always was and always will be a way for pretty people to make money from rich horny clients. And there will always be a turnover. You can already assume that its sort of dying off for local girls as you see more and more of them increase their availabilities escorting. As for having goals... I say good for them if they can find a path that doesn't require them to do a complete shit show of a job just to get by. Sadly, pretty sure a lot of the successful ones are going to have rude awakenings when Mr Tax shows up for their cut. Hope they have financial planners cause they are going to get destroyed.
Ya, this truly going to be interesting to watch. Then again, sex has become such a regular thing and so many degrees deeper than when I was younger. I once overheard a group of young adults talking about sex, boys and girls talking about being bi-sexual, having orgies, etc.. I was a bit put off by how open they were about it at first and it got me thinking. I'm happy to live in a world where they can be free to live the life they want. Is it better? Only time will tell.
Thinking way back when celebrities had sextapes released (ex: Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Pamela Anderson) and how shocking it was at first. Now its forgotten within days and nobody gives a shit anymore. I suspect the same will happen, shit will get burried and when its found might not even make a ripple. People aren't as much puritains as before... really curious to see how that works out.
But as for OF hurting the escort industry, SA probably hurt it more. Also add Twitter, IG, Snap and many girls don't even need to advertise themselves to get the occasional offer. Pretty sure all girls get offered multiple times daily... just the price has gone up. Supply and demand still "dicktates" the price last I checked.
Ok i didnt know my subject would raise a big debate..yes things change.i spoke to a porn actor who use to do a lot of films here localy back then.he retired from the industrie cause he agrees now any joe blow can self proclaim hes a big shot as long he as a set of camera and photoshoots these girls who thinks there going to be big shot!.(not all photographs are like that i know).theres this ugly big headed nerd guy who started as a amateur photograph and helped out a porn guy to film his onlyfans home made movies..now all of a sudden he selfs proclaims himself as a big shot international porn actor saying to the dumb girls if you do porn with me for my onlyfans youll get famous and ill photoshoot you in return for free!..now cant believed these dumb broads that believed him just because he photoshoot some higher up girls..(he even made himself some t shirts and hats with his name on them to give girls lol..well known snake and thinks hes untouchable too)..its all a clik and always the same french quebec girls that keeps coming back..all of a sudden there all superstars and yes its because these morons who will do anything they say and pay thinking the girls will falll for them if they do!..have you seen some of them acting out on there instagram?..( theres one who cant stop doing videos on instagramm every 2 minutes by always playing with here hair like shes holywood star!) even worst is this strip club crazy moon that does these onlyfans crap night (host by that snake guy) come on realy??
Lol dudes if you dont have the money to pay for the onlyfans of your favorite, just dont pay it. Its not a public service lol I mean if you want to watch free stolen porn thats between you and your morals, I prefer to pay 15$ a month for more ethical porn than not knowing if I'm eatching stolen revenge porn shit on pornhub. Starbucks charges the same price for one chai latte lol
Who needs porn when you got stripclubs. Live interactive women stripteasing, it does not get better then that. I never understood this fascination with porn and especially OnlyFans.
You can have a great lady come over and have a kinky wonderful time! Who the hell wants OF
OK it is true that OF is a good platform for the ladies to get more views but seems like when they have an OF they think they are in an upper league and jack the price. Some it will be justify because they invest the time in it and make content for it and you got some that will keep it low with barely new content. I remember one came to tell me in private; You don't buy a lot!!! That was the game over point.
I went to see 3 OF of local Sp and the content turn me off to the point of no attempt to book. Also close down the account cause fuck it's boring.
Cheap little vids of 15 sec and PPV content was not a turn ON. Better to go get a strip dance at a club.
Use properly OF can be good but again it will depend the level of investment.
I went to see 3 OF of local Sp and the content turn me off to the point of no attempt to book. Also close down the account cause fuck it's boring.
Cheap little vids of 15 sec and PPV content was not a turn ON. Better to go get a strip dance at a club.
Use properly OF can be good but again it will depend the level of investment.
I had OF during the pandemic and my hiatus. I closed a few months before going back to in person meetings.
I felt like to some, it was pointless to book a session when they had already seen everything there was to see online.
I felt like to some, it was pointless to book a session when they had already seen everything there was to see online.
I already expressed myself on OF but since its a new topic i will again. I see both pros and cons about the platform.
Pros :
As a SW they have more control over their content, they keep getting revenue of a scene even if its old. Its not a one paid like shooting a scene for a website
As a customer, we now have tons of girls who would have never do regular porn. Because they didn't want to shoot for third parties or whatever reason
Cons
It had dried up the regular porn market especially in the US. Now big pornstars only shoot there.
The platform in itself is very bad for a customer and ill explain on this...
What i mean by that is there is no regulation whatsoever. Entry fee is custom and you get NO preview of the content exept the number of pics/vids on wall, but it could all be instagram pictures and 4 sec clips
The PPV side is even worst. Often there is no visual preview, sometimes if they even put a description (wich they don't always do) its inacurate or false truth. For instance they mention blowjob skill but they just using a dildo... Prices are in US$ with added taxes and fees. Very quick a 20$ scene cost much more than 20. Sometimes they make "bundle" to look like a deal but you can't see the lengh of scenes. Sometimes a 9m scene end up being 7m of cloathed waste and barely anything interesting so even time stamp is not a sure shot.
And obviously the pricing is often ridiculous vs market. What i mean is that a single scene should NEVER cost the same price as a month subscription to a website that offer you 4 updates (or more) and a huge backlog of videos. Im fine with an a la card menu, but first price accordingly and second PREVIEWS !! Even manyvids is guilty of having pretty bad previews (too short) but at least they have some...
Personally in my financial situation where i can only meet so often, its easier to drop 30-40$ a month on porn content. I don't mind paying for my porn but give me value to it.
The issue with OF is it was not intended for porn originally. Even today there is creators that don't do any porn on it, like not even use it as a "sexy instagram" so its hard to regulate it from a company stand point. But i do think previews to a video of any kind should be mandatory. I also think if the subcription is 20$ or more, you should get value for it and not a few nudes on wall and thats it while PPVs are 50$ for a 10m scene.
I know OF has a huge feature wich is chatting with the model. Lots of guys love this and this is the driven force of multiple OF. Of course a lot of the more popular creators MSUT use assistants to answer (it would be impossible for them to keep up) but i do know smaller creators do take time to answers themselves from the couple creators i met and they told me it (i don't really chat personally on OF, just buy the content when it fit my criteria and i have spare $).
The chatting is basically what lead to the "simps" side of OF. It make those guys empowered to feel "aknowledged" by the models. Now there could be a HUGE debate on OF for hours with me. Cause as i said at the start of the message i do see benefit of it, even as a client, but some big cons as well.
Pros :
As a SW they have more control over their content, they keep getting revenue of a scene even if its old. Its not a one paid like shooting a scene for a website
As a customer, we now have tons of girls who would have never do regular porn. Because they didn't want to shoot for third parties or whatever reason
Cons
It had dried up the regular porn market especially in the US. Now big pornstars only shoot there.
The platform in itself is very bad for a customer and ill explain on this...
What i mean by that is there is no regulation whatsoever. Entry fee is custom and you get NO preview of the content exept the number of pics/vids on wall, but it could all be instagram pictures and 4 sec clips
The PPV side is even worst. Often there is no visual preview, sometimes if they even put a description (wich they don't always do) its inacurate or false truth. For instance they mention blowjob skill but they just using a dildo... Prices are in US$ with added taxes and fees. Very quick a 20$ scene cost much more than 20. Sometimes they make "bundle" to look like a deal but you can't see the lengh of scenes. Sometimes a 9m scene end up being 7m of cloathed waste and barely anything interesting so even time stamp is not a sure shot.
And obviously the pricing is often ridiculous vs market. What i mean is that a single scene should NEVER cost the same price as a month subscription to a website that offer you 4 updates (or more) and a huge backlog of videos. Im fine with an a la card menu, but first price accordingly and second PREVIEWS !! Even manyvids is guilty of having pretty bad previews (too short) but at least they have some...
Personally in my financial situation where i can only meet so often, its easier to drop 30-40$ a month on porn content. I don't mind paying for my porn but give me value to it.
The issue with OF is it was not intended for porn originally. Even today there is creators that don't do any porn on it, like not even use it as a "sexy instagram" so its hard to regulate it from a company stand point. But i do think previews to a video of any kind should be mandatory. I also think if the subcription is 20$ or more, you should get value for it and not a few nudes on wall and thats it while PPVs are 50$ for a 10m scene.
I know OF has a huge feature wich is chatting with the model. Lots of guys love this and this is the driven force of multiple OF. Of course a lot of the more popular creators MSUT use assistants to answer (it would be impossible for them to keep up) but i do know smaller creators do take time to answers themselves from the couple creators i met and they told me it (i don't really chat personally on OF, just buy the content when it fit my criteria and i have spare $).
The chatting is basically what lead to the "simps" side of OF. It make those guys empowered to feel "aknowledged" by the models. Now there could be a HUGE debate on OF for hours with me. Cause as i said at the start of the message i do see benefit of it, even as a client, but some big cons as well.
Its not a question of money im saying OF killed the scene!..i know a couple of providers that when of wasnt around they charged in the same rates as others..now forget it everyone thinks there superstars on it..this local one i know i asked here why does she charge now 500$ a hres for 1 shot..here respond was:" cause now im on OF,i have reviews and did some content on OF!..so im a pornstar feature!"..really?..and shes not the only one who thinks this way!..cause theres these guys who are willing to put a morgage on there house if the girl would ask them!! Lol
It is not about money.
I pay way more by seeing her in person regularly than a $15 monthly subscription.
Ethics in porn? Now you are really kidding lol.
I would much rather have a chai latte than watch porn.
I quickly skimmed a few post and I think the complaint is that there’s been a cascading effect on escorts that has driven them to look down on clients and be less inclined to treat them nicely in person. I don’t know about the scene and this mysterious guy being talked about, but one can perhaps see some effects of the phenomenon vis a vis Non Indy companion SP with Onlyfans and the negative reviews they have. It’s a rather stratified data set though. I can’t recall more than perhaps 5 or 6 off the top of my head, and I doubt it’s enough to give credence to the claims. Ultimately, I think it’s about money….
Im not blaming just all onlyfans here..anyone seen these french quebec local podcast where they have these local girls onlyfans on it?..like this one lemondedetangerine wich is host by tangerine dreams(for you older hobbyist im sure you remember this feature who use to go from strip club to strip club back in the days)..now she looks like a couple of trains ran on here ishh!..anyway they invite these onlyfans girls and some fucked up ppl too (who thinks there stars wich some of them got a pushing to be on it by this porn older guy who knows the host) so she asks them questions like how did you started bla bla bla..then cause they went on this shitty local podcast crap there head gets even bigger!..i mean if you look and listen its all fake attitude..like they think there on the tonight show with jimmy fallon or something!..so these podcast crap dont help there ego of some of these girls..only to make it bigger! ( and dont start some of you defending like a white knight syndrome cause you think youl get in there pants for free in return lol)
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