Perils of this hobby

[Tor1393]

No...

You know first hand she's a SW and that her time should be compensated. Not having to compensate her for her time on a trip is a privilege; you will know if you are the lucky one. You can't assume you won't have to pay her.

She can ask to be compensated sure, and I can politely decline. In the end, that is what happened.
However, when the above mentioned SW talks alot about how she would love to come along on a ski trip and I make it clear that I wont ski with her during the day except for an hour so she doesnt feel abandoned, etc. She keeps asking if she can come along, I guess I assumed she would not expect to be compensated for 8 hours a day. But I agree she has to "right" to ask and I have the right to say no thank you.


All I said is it might be construed as "dangling". Just like in the reverse.

ultimately, you and I both agree.

 

[Tor1393]

Lesson learnt: ask about her compensation while out of town/not working.

LeDodo
yes indeed. Having said that, I was already in Europe skiing. She wanted to join the second week of my 4 week vacation. In truth nothing lost since I did not plan on actually skiing with her to any degree. And we all know about the FKK scene in Europe so........

 

[Halloween Mike]

No...

You know first hand she's a SW and that her time should be compensated. Not having to compensate her for her time on a trip is a privilege; you will know if you are the lucky one. You can't assume you won't have to pay her.

In his case there it seem she was the one asking about it and wanting to come along. He didn't inquired for a travel booking. SPs and clients are human as much as anyone and its not because SPs have sex for money that they can't decide to do activities with peoples who happen to be clients... In this specific case the guy was willing to pay her travel, her hotel, probably her food too, thats already a lot of money... He basically was giving her a free vacation but she wanted 21k on top of that... while SHE asked if she could join him. I think its kinda bold.

If im seeing an SP for a 1 hour incall booking and for X reason i mention im gonna go for diner at restaurant X, and she says "oh its been so long that i got there, can i join you", i would say "sure of course" but would not expect this to transform into another paid hour or 2... Im not booking her escort services in this case, im simply telling a human that yeah she can join me if she want.

 

[cpp433]

. I think its kinda bold.

Kinda bold? Brah thats the understatement of the year!

 

[LC18]

And that’s why I would never invite myself anywhere, because that means free time and I don’t want to give that

I’d rather wait to be invited

 

[Tor1393]

And that’s why I would never invite myself anywhere, because that means free time and I don’t want to give that

I’d rather wait to be invited

LC 18, I have generally found your posts pretty spot on. This one maybe not so much. Saying you never want to give "free time", is sort of sad. It gives the appearance of viewing
all men as simply ATM machines. If you have a client and you find him pleasant enough, then why not go to a nice dinner with him, if YOU want to go that restaurant anyway.
Or lets take another example, suppose I have tickets to Cirque du Soleil on saturday and maybe I mention that in a session with you on Tuesday. IF you really want to see Cirque du Soleil
and the client is sort of fun to be around, then you are missing out by not going.
Anyway, we all have different ideas of how life should work. My point earlier in this thread was about "dangling". IF someone believes it is improper for clients to do it, then I think it is fair to
say "nor should SW's". Or we can take the view that it is all fair play. Clients to get better service and SW's to get more bookings. For me: I dont dangle. but I will also happily take someone to dinner (and pay for everything) if I think they are fun to be around. SW or Not and in either situation sex afterwards is not expected.

PS: you likely did not appreciate that your comment could be construed as a bit off putting. as I mentioned, you always seem to have really reasonable answers and responses.
Tor

 

[LC18]

LC 18, I have generally found your posts pretty spot on. This one maybe not so much. Saying you never want to give "free time", is sort of sad. It gives the appearance of viewing
all men as simply ATM machines. If you have a client and you find him pleasant enough, then why not go to a nice dinner with him, if YOU want to go that restaurant anyway.
Or lets take another example, suppose I have tickets to Cirque du Soleil on saturday and maybe I mention that in a session with you on Tuesday. IF you really want to see Cirque du Soleil
and the client is sort of fun to be around, then you are missing out by not going.
Anyway, we all have different ideas of how life should work. My point earlier in this thread was about "dangling". IF someone believes it is improper for clients to do it, then I think it is fair to
say "nor should SW's". Or we can take the view that it is all fair play. Clients to get better service and SW's to get more bookings. For me: I dont dangle. but I will also happily take someone to dinner (and pay for everything) if I think they are fun to be around. SW or Not and in either situation sex afterwards is not expected.

PS: you likely did not appreciate that your comment could be construed as a bit off putting. as I mentioned, you always seem to have really reasonable answers and responses.
Tor

Because I don’t want to, just like some men wouldn’t want to pay for my time. You don’t have to agree.

They don’t have to pay to take me out for dinner and I don’t have to accept to go for free.

It doesn’t matter how much fun I have with them, they can decide whether they want to see me and pay or not see me and keep their money.

When I truly like a client, I will extend our date for free or reduce the rate but it will never be free.

 

[LC18]

If you were a dentist, would you go fill some cavities on the weekend for free just because your patient is really funny and cute? If yes, send me your business card.

Maybe you see it as sad, I see it as a job.

 

[Flyingby]

LC 18, I have generally found your posts pretty spot on. This one maybe not so much. Saying you never want to give "free time", is sort of sad. It gives the appearance of viewing
all men as simply ATM machines. If you have a client and you find him pleasant enough, then why not go to a nice dinner with him, if YOU want to go that restaurant anyway.
Or lets take another example, suppose I have tickets to Cirque du Soleil on saturday and maybe I mention that in a session with you on Tuesday. IF you really want to see Cirque du Soleil
and the client is sort of fun to be around, then you are missing out by not going.
Anyway, we all have different ideas of how life should work. My point earlier in this thread was about "dangling". IF someone believes it is improper for clients to do it, then I think it is fair to
say "nor should SW's". Or we can take the view that it is all fair play. Clients to get better service and SW's to get more bookings. For me: I dont dangle. but I will also happily take someone to dinner (and pay for everything) if I think they are fun to be around. SW or Not and in either situation sex afterwards is not expected.

PS: you likely did not appreciate that your comment could be construed as a bit off putting. as I mentioned, you always seem to have really reasonable answers and responses.
Tor

I agree with @LC18.
Problem is many guys confuse sex, SP treatment and actual friendship.

I find it amusing how single guys think an SP REALLY wants to hang out with them , them being 50 year old johns and SP being a much younger hottie and all this for free!
when “regular” girls don’t even want to hang out with them

 

[MCTJ]

LC 18, I have generally found your posts pretty spot on. This one maybe not so much. Saying you never want to give "free time", is sort of sad. It gives the appearance of viewing
all men as simply ATM machines. If you have a client and you find him pleasant enough, then why not go to a nice dinner with him, if YOU want to go that restaurant anyway.
Or lets take another example, suppose I have tickets to Cirque du Soleil on saturday and maybe I mention that in a session with you on Tuesday. IF you really want to see Cirque du Soleil
and the client is sort of fun to be around, then you are missing out by not going.
Anyway, we all have different ideas of how life should work. My point earlier in this thread was about "dangling". IF someone believes it is improper for clients to do it, then I think it is fair to
say "nor should SW's". Or we can take the view that it is all fair play. Clients to get better service and SW's to get more bookings. For me: I dont dangle. but I will also happily take someone to dinner (and pay for everything) if I think they are fun to be around. SW or Not and in either situation sex afterwards is not expected.

PS: you likely did not appreciate that your comment could be construed as a bit off putting. as I mentioned, you always seem to have really reasonable answers and responses.
Tor

Your opinion is not compatible with how the vast majority of sex workers think and operate.

 

[kkrack]

Been hobbying for a while since I had to outsource my sex life due non performance of my inhouse provider. Is great fun but I always feel too much pressure regarding time management. Multi hour appointments are out of my fun budget.

Then I met X. (From an agency) First ever conversation was awesome and I almost did not leave enough time for the deed. Saw her several times then mentioned that a fantasy of mine would be to travel with her. She gave me her contacts and gave me the green light to contact her directly. First date arranged privately was excellent. Then she said she'd be up for dinner out or whatever. Since then I have had fantastic "dates" with no time pressure. Thing is, I am starting to think about her too much. My brain knows the deal, and I would never get weird, but damn, she's on my mind! Should I run away or enjoy it while it lasts?

The other thing is that if my inhouse provider ever came back on line, I think my MO has changed. Years ago I pulled her hair in doggy and she said "Where did that come from?"

Don't waste your time.
Involving your heart while she gets railed left and right is never good.

 

[Gazoo64]

Don't waste your time.
Involving your heart while she gets railed left and right is never good.

Well said! When the lines start getting blurred or feelings get involved, it’s time to end it right there!

 

[Gazoo64]

Thing is, I am starting to think about her too much. My brain knows the deal, and I would never get weird, but damn, she's on my mind! Should I run away or enjoy it while it lasts?

You asked, so I’ll give you my opinion.
Run away!

IMO, I don’t think it’s a good idea that you’re thinking of her too much or catching feelings.
These things rarely end well!