Please post of you have been harrased by police
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HI can people give me their horror story aboutseeign police duing your date!
Please elaborate. Is this Incall? Were you raided?
As LE may walk this board I am going to leave out some non-pertinent details, but I was stopped (I was not engaging in any criminal act), by the police verbally intimidated so was my "friend" and then let go stating that I would be on a "list".Note I stayed silent when engaging the police except to state my name and address.
I also know that there are other MERBers who have experienced similar incidents and recently another poster said that the police is using a new intimidation tactic calling you at home and making you confess, sending you letters etc. I want to discuss intimidation tactics of the police here, by getting everyone to :
1.Briefly/ fully explain what happened to them and the actions police took.
2.Discuss strategy how to block police from unavailing the average citizen of their rights.
3.Discuss counter measures against the police.
I will get the ball rolling, the incident that took place with user ncilep he said:
My strategy for this would have been to :
i. ask for the name of the officer
ii. ask for his numero de matricule (badge number)
iii. ask which PDQ (station) he works at
iv. his phone number
v.confess nothing!!!!
I also know that there are other MERBers who have experienced similar incidents and recently another poster said that the police is using a new intimidation tactic calling you at home and making you confess, sending you letters etc. I want to discuss intimidation tactics of the police here, by getting everyone to :
1.Briefly/ fully explain what happened to them and the actions police took.
2.Discuss strategy how to block police from unavailing the average citizen of their rights.
3.Discuss counter measures against the police.
I will get the ball rolling, the incident that took place with user ncilep he said:
I received a letter from the city last week. It was from the mtl police dept.
They asked to call back. When i called back they asked me if I was still driving a blue Mazda 5. I said yes not knowing what they wanted. Then they told me that I was identified by the police as picking up a girl on Ontario st.
(At the time I think what saved me was that I picked up the girl but dropped her a few seconds later because she wasn't my type)
They had dates and everything and at first I denied it. The guy told me that denying this would get me in a lot of trouble. I eventually admited it and the officer's attitude completely changed. He basically told me that if I promised not to look for street action, he would forget about this. I promised him this and that was it. I almost shit in my pants. Anyone had this experience and do you think they still have a file on me ?
Needless to say I haven't been back on the streets.
My strategy for this would have been to :
i. ask for the name of the officer
ii. ask for his numero de matricule (badge number)
iii. ask which PDQ (station) he works at
iv. his phone number
v.confess nothing!!!!
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As LE may walk this board I am going to leave out some non-pertinent details, but I was stopped (I was not engaging in any criminal act), by the police verbally intimidated so was my "friend" and then let go stating that I would be on a "list".
You should have told the cop that you picked her up at a bar and she wasnt a SW
I did one better I did not open my mouth to anything nor confess to anything not matter what the cops threatened to do.
I just looked at them with a blank stare. Remember honesty only pays in front of your own lawyer not the cops. But anyhow back to the point I want to hear from others. The goal of this thread is to develop counter measures against police violating citizens rights and my hope is that we can get inside information from lawyers, police and friends of police to figure out what information is taken where is it taken how is it taken, what actions are taken etc. etc.
Again the goal is user experiences and insider lawyer /cop information.
I just looked at them with a blank stare. Remember honesty only pays in front of your own lawyer not the cops. But anyhow back to the point I want to hear from others. The goal of this thread is to develop counter measures against police violating citizens rights and my hope is that we can get inside information from lawyers, police and friends of police to figure out what information is taken where is it taken how is it taken, what actions are taken etc. etc.
Again the goal is user experiences and insider lawyer /cop information.
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Some neighbourhood watch groups are filming johns picking up streetwalkers in their cars.
They have their reasons.
Other than that I have nothing to add to this thread.
They have their reasons.
Other than that I have nothing to add to this thread.
Some neighbourhood watch groups are filming johns picking up streetwalkers in their cars.
They have their reasons.
Other than that I have nothing to add to this thread.
I've heard the same thing about some busy MP's, the neighbourhood (individuals) or watch groups are in fact trying to collect info on johns, clients. They may even be the ones passing the info to LE with descriptions of vehicles driving around, or parking to go to MPs.
Is there some sort of clean up campaign (crackdown) going on we don't know about???
DA_
Is this in Montreal?
Yes.
These things show up on current events TV programs like TVA's J.E.
Basically is that people in certain neighbourhoods are tired of seeing cruising johns, hookers, condoms, syringes cluttering up their environment.
It's a well known fact that the police are always tough on street prostitution. And rightfully so in my opinion. Keep it private, discrete, and behind closed doors. Children, wives, & families, etc. don't need to see that stuff on the street. Just call one of the board agencies and spend the extra $50 or $100 or whatever.
Ocoq
Ocoq
The police have a right to do whatever they want Oocq........ as long as they stay inside their constitutional bounds. For example, on the other guy's case
1. If they saw him pick up a sw, then they should have taken the pain and effort to follow and arrest him rather than note his license plate and contact him at home. The police have no right to act like the SS or gustapo.
2. In my case I always keep my business off the street.
3. The resident can move if they don't like it. Ontario st. is no place to raise kids anyhow.
1. If they saw him pick up a sw, then they should have taken the pain and effort to follow and arrest him rather than note his license plate and contact him at home. The police have no right to act like the SS or gustapo.
2. In my case I always keep my business off the street.
3. The resident can move if they don't like it. Ontario st. is no place to raise kids anyhow.
Does anyone know
1.the name of this neighbourhood watch and
2. can someone please tell me by link articles or videos about current event shows that do this expose?
Seriously only 2 people in this whole site have been harassed by the police.No one has any stories/actions?
Only one other person who used to be a well known former poster on this board said that they were stopped and questioned by the police.
They said that the best way to avoid detection is to walk on foot
1.the name of this neighbourhood watch and
2. can someone please tell me by link articles or videos about current event shows that do this expose?
Seriously only 2 people in this whole site have been harassed by the police.No one has any stories/actions?
Only one other person who used to be a well known former poster on this board said that they were stopped and questioned by the police.
They said that the best way to avoid detection is to walk on foot
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False. The best way is to avoid street walkers. In residential areas, street walkers are a nuisance to the neighborhood because of the traffic they cause, the clientele they attract, the pimps and other pushers that are usually around...,,,
They said that the best way to avoid detection is to walk on foot
Does a quickie in a car or a back alley really worth a brush with LE?
Do peoples living in an area have the right to walk around without being bothered by johns, prostitutes, pimps and dealers?
I agree with you metoo4 for the most part, SW's are not worth without police interference, people do have a right to live, though mind you , parents should reconsider where they raise their kids.
Back to the thread, I have a right not to have the police step out of their constitutional bounds.
They can do foot patrols and stand near prostitutes that will scare off people...permanently, but they don't they want to be lazy note license plates and call people and send them mail, acting like border line Gustapo/ KGB/ NAZI SS. If you have NOT been charged with a crime by the SPVM, they have not right keeping you on a database, mailing you about the fact that they think they saw you talking to an SP. ITS NOT THEIR BUSINESS.
Do you think its right that I am on a police computer somewhere ( a friend verified this), even though I have never charged with a crime by police officers.
Please note that I always try to keep my business off the street. IE motel.
Back to the thread, I have a right not to have the police step out of their constitutional bounds.
They can do foot patrols and stand near prostitutes that will scare off people...permanently, but they don't they want to be lazy note license plates and call people and send them mail, acting like border line Gustapo/ KGB/ NAZI SS. If you have NOT been charged with a crime by the SPVM, they have not right keeping you on a database, mailing you about the fact that they think they saw you talking to an SP. ITS NOT THEIR BUSINESS.
Do you think its right that I am on a police computer somewhere ( a friend verified this), even though I have never charged with a crime by police officers.
Please note that I always try to keep my business off the street. IE motel.
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The best way to avoid trouble with LE is to obey the law. Prostitution is legal in Canada so just stay within what's permitted. (see numerous other threads)
If you are forced to interact with police, remember that lying to the police can itself be a crime! So never lie to them. But you do not have to talk to them. In fact, you should not talk to them. You should just say "I invoke my right to remain silent. If I am under arrest I request immediate consultation with my lawyer. If I'm not under arrest I want to end this conversation and leave right now."
Cut, paste, print out, place in your wallet, and don't deviate from it.
If you are forced to interact with police, remember that lying to the police can itself be a crime! So never lie to them. But you do not have to talk to them. In fact, you should not talk to them. You should just say "I invoke my right to remain silent. If I am under arrest I request immediate consultation with my lawyer. If I'm not under arrest I want to end this conversation and leave right now."
Cut, paste, print out, place in your wallet, and don't deviate from it.
so far no one has contributed anything.
Probably just as well, since most advice I see on this topic is usually plain wrong or even dangerous.
Here's some real, detailed advice. It's for the USA, but generally applies in Canada too.
BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
Flex Your Rights channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FlexYourRights
Prof. Duane's great lecture about self-incrimination:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
You'll know more than the average lawyer if you watch these.
You could also buy the T-shirt and/or contribute to the ACLU http://aclu.org/
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We have all had the cops pull us over and give us the power trip to make themselve feel like big men. Just act cool and answer their questions and be polite. What you realy do not need is an asshole that will show you who is boss.
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