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Poll for Definition of GFE

What is a GFE Service

  • gfe= bbbjtc, daty, dfk, Greek, msog

    Votes: 17 13.8%
  • gfe = bbbj, daty, dfk,greek, msog

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • gfe= bbbj,daty,dfk,msog

    Votes: 96 78.0%
  • gfe= cbj,dfk,msog

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • gfe= cbj, msog

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • gfe= cbj one shot on goal allowed

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    123

Happydan

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I`m tired of hearing I had a GFE session ...................but no kiss.

GFE session CBJ no DATY ..........

What the hell guys!

Now here`s a poll and we will finally get the MERB standard definition service wise of a what a GFE really means for all of us.

I wont get into the other intangibles of what a gfe service mood intensity etc is I only want to judge the service level for now. We can do a seperate poll lateron for that.

For those that don`t know

cbj = covered blow job ie using a condomn
= bare back blow job ie no condomn
tc = same as above to completion. ie come in her mouth.
DATY = dinning at the y ie cunnilingus you can eat her.
MSOG = many shots on goal you can come more than once.
DFK = deep french kiss.
greek = self explanatory.


My definition is at least a number 3.

Maybe someone can make this a sticky.
 
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chowhound

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This is an interesting poll. I'm not sure I agree with spectrum as presented. The choices seem to indicate that "tc" is more extreme/liberal than greek. In my experience, "tc" is much more common than greek (at least among my gf's). Maybe my experience is not representative. Any thoughts?
 

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You will never get a GFE with an SP, simply because you'll have always to use a candom. So, you can get close to GFE, but never reach it. Having sex without a candom is a totally different sensation.
 

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Re: GFE

Originally posted by EagerBeaver
My answer is none of the above as I adhere to the legendary St. Bart`s definition: (1) ; (2) DATY, (3) DFK; and (4) Good attitude or attitude that a girlfriend would have in trying to please you. MSOG does not factor into the equation for me because these days I am rarely capable of more than one SOG. Thus MSOG is a moot point for me, and in fact for many non-Viagara consuming men over 40.

Eager
If you read my message I do state that there are other categories that make up a GFE. This poll is for the service part of it.
 

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Originally posted by HornyBoy007
You will never get a GFE with an SP, simply because you'll have always to use a candom. So, you can get close to GFE, but never reach it. Having sex without a candom is a totally different sensation.
I have had sex with a girlfriend that requires a condom because she was not on the pill.

You know the condom was actually created to stop pregnancies and not because men wanted to protect themselves from STD'S during sex.
 

E B Samaritano

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None of the above...

GFE is as much about attitude and presence and delivery, as it is about specific services.

One the services side of the equation an universal definition is:

MPFS, DATY, Kissing-either LFK or DFK, and .


All the other stuff is optional and the reason why kissing can be LFK or DFK is simply because that is not a part of a service providers menu. Kissing is not a sexual service and I could just as well argue it should not be part of the service menu.

EBS
 

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Given the controversy in
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=21840
I thought it would be interesting to refresh this thread and have more opinions expressed.

There is another poll on the same subject, but it is not relevant IMO because:
1- it is closed (I don’t understand why thread creators put a time limit in their poll)
2- it gives the possibility to answer “Acronyms are irrelevant” (almost 20% of answers), which is not a valid answer IMHO (like saying “words have no meaning”). If GFE meant nothing in particular, this acronym would not be written on most agencies’ websites.
 

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Sps Definition of GFE

A go with the flow session, ``oh, I don`t do that`` is rarely uttered and when it must be, it is done is such a playful manner that you don`t notice it. GFE to me is not a menu of ABCs and therefore has no extra charge (jeepers!)... at the same time, if the opportunity to kiss is not available (the guy has a cold or something - give me some space here) or you don`t get around to MSOG, or maybe was not what the guy wanted, or DATY didn`t happen...

Sometimes I really enjoy my own writing - here is a prime example of something I said that I believe rang true for both clients and SPs

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=182615&postcount=6

xoxox
Anik
 

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Just-ass-weet said:
at the same time, if the opportunity to kiss is not available (the guy has a cold or something - give me some space here) or you don`t get around to MSOG, or maybe was not what the guy wanted, or DATY didn`t happen...
You don`t get the point.
The question is not to know if it happened or not, and for which reasons.
The question is to know if the SP accepts or refuses when she is asked explicitely.
 

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C'mon guys, you wouldn't be coming to us for BJs at the rate you do if it was something your GFs did regularly. Ask any SP, BJ is the most common request because you are not getting it at home. :eek: Oh and by the way can you take out the garbage on the way out? :D

But seriously, to me GFE has more to do with attitude and the way she makes you feel than anything else. It is the cuddling and hair scritchies. The tenderness. An SP can offer all the services listed but if she does so mechanically she is not GFE.

Ronnie,
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The Wizard of Oz

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The check list!!!

Anik,

Where is your check list!?!?!?!?!?!?

;)
 

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naughtylady said:
But seriously, to me GFE has more to do with attitude and the way she makes you feel than anything else. It is the cuddling and hair scritchies. The tenderness. An SP can offer all the services listed but if she does so mechanically she is not GFE.
I agree with you Ronnie. Over any list of acronyms, a proper attitude makes ALL the difference. As much as I like and to DATY, I can live without these as long as passionate kissing and hot FS are on the menu.

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Tough call!

Just-ass-weet[QUOTE said:
]A go with the flow session, ``oh, I don`t do that`` is rarely uttered and when it must be, it is done is such a playful manner that you don`t notice it. GFE to me is not a menu of ABCs and therefore has no extra charge (jeepers!)... at the same time, if the opportunity to kiss is not available (the guy has a cold or something - give me some space here) or you don`t get around to MSOG, or maybe was not what the guy wanted, or DATY didn`t happen..
.

This is a tough topic. Maybe we should look at why the issue ever came up. Just for the sake of argument I am going to play Devil`s advocate and deliberately put the hobby into the cold light, of reality discuss the darker side of the hobby. If you feel I am being negative, so be it.
Issues of misleading promises by agencies and/or sp`s, restrictions, and unequal treatment of clients by some sp`s (for example, differences between the level of service at the beginning and at the end of a long shift), are the most likely culprits that come to mind.

First, it is no secret that some agencies offer great prices with great looking girls (sexyxxx comes to mind) failing to mention that when the client arrives he is informed by the young lady in question of a long list of extras. Or that the service is completely safe, safe meaning that any surfaces which contact must be able to accept a condom or forget it. Several on the zzcream roster were notorious for that. Agencies and sp`s pulling all kinds of stunts bordering on misrepresentation, in my mind, are partly responsible for fueling this debate. Bait and switch stunts are bad enough without this stuff. Reviews and black lists do help the potential client. Too bad they are necessary.

Second, the concept of YMMV. There are some serious issues here. Unscrupulous sp`s can have a field day with this term. They are pretty savvy sometimes at sizing up who they are dealing with. If it is all about money then just how far can we push the envelope. Very tempting at the end of a long shift. This is a lot like real life. Nice guys finish last sometimes, even here. Should the level of service be left to the discretion of the sp? In all fairness there are two things arguing against abuses. First, the sp`s with integrity, (Anik, Ronnie and Jessy, for example) I believe, would not engage in this. I wish they were all like this. Second, word gets around and this kind of behaviour does show up in reviews. But not everyone reads this board or participates. Some just try to con us after the fact. We have all read some of the colourful exchanges between agency owners and clients on this board.

So what is wrong with all of this you ask? Well concepts like extras, restrictions and YMMV have the potential to put a barrier between sp and client which, despite all of the efforts at sociability of the sp, will leave a taste of rejection in the mouth. No guy likes to feel like a fugitive from a leper colony. And please don`t hit me with the “I keep that part for myself, something I only share with a loved one.” I can`t think of anything more intimate than intercourse, period.

Does the system, for the most part, work as it is now. Well you have all read the reviews. Judge for yourself. In my opinion I think it does. MOst guys are understanding of sp`s, indeed will even make excuses for them for a bad performance. But the very fact that the debate even exists lends credence to the fact that there should be a system in place where, first, an sp can declare herself YMMV or GFE and second, the level of service which might universally be expected for each of these designations is clear. You can bet that it would result in fewer arguments on this board. Just my two cents.
 
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the standard definition of gfe is dfk, , daty and msog. the sad part is there`s a lot of girls advertised as gfe, when they are actually ymmv or ``safe``-gfe. whether that`s done intentionally or unintentionally, it`s misleading advertising.

that said, i`ve only ever repeated with girls that were gfe. i`ve seen really hot girls that were listed as gfe but were not and i never repeated with them.
 

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Need to add tc, daty, dkf, msog (no greek) to options!

My reply would be , daty, dfk & msog based on the available options. If tc, daty, dfk and msog (without greek) were an option, then that would be my choice.
 

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Ducon you are a romantic

I agree with you by the way, but I still like to have some good old fashion sex too.

I am usually very satisfied with DFK,, DATY and MSOG. which is what all SP I have met offered by the way (sooner or later)
 
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There are two things that I have never had a girlfriend ask me. I have never been asked to not kiss, and I have never been asked to wear a condom during a blowjob. If I am asked to do either of those, it is simply not a GFE. You can use any terms, such as "safe-GFE," that you want. But, if you ask me to do either, you are asking me to do something that no girlfriend of mine has ever asked.
 
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