Listen... You are a Conservative Sheep. You believe all the lies that the corporations and the conservatives are selling you. They like people like you since you are so easily fooled and manipulated. You support the corporations in their constant exploitation of employees and ripping off their customers. The only thing the Conservatives do is to see how to improve things for the rich and the corporations... They do not care for the working class or poor. Are you on the payroll of the Conservatives? Seems all you do is spread Conservative lies. Do you think we are that naive?
Quebec to start oil and gas exploration.
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Listen... You are a Conservative Sheep. You believe all the lies that the corporations and the conservatives are selling you. They like people like you since you are so easily fooled and manipulated. You support the corporations in their constant exploitation of employees and ripping off their customers. The only thing the Conservatives do is to see how to improve things for the rich and the corporations... They do not care for the working class or poor. Are you on the payroll of the Conservatives? Seems all you do is spread Conservative lies. Do you think we are that naive?
You see how you are a Conservative Sheep. You blindly follow the bullshit of the conservatives. As Passione said it is stop piling it up and cut wherever you can. Unfortunately there are many fools with your beliefs but if everyone did their part it will have an affect. It is a unified effort. Same thing with your neighborhood if everyone recycles and stops littering things will change. But if you got dumbasses with your thinking who say what difference will it make if I do it then it goes nowhere. Unfortunately Trump is in power and he has your thinking... This guy will allow coal firing plants everywhere. Why do you not go to China or India and tell me if climate change is bs. You got your screws loose. Conservative Sheep.
Sol Tee Nutz,
Imagine... An entire country so ignorant that the people willfully give billions of dollars in order to elect rich criminals (The corporations and the elite) to rule over their lives and steal their money, but still believe they are free. This is you. Conservative Sheep. Start thinking yourself instead of blindly following the lies of the corporations.
Imagine... An entire country so ignorant that the people willfully give billions of dollars in order to elect rich criminals (The corporations and the elite) to rule over their lives and steal their money, but still believe they are free. This is you. Conservative Sheep. Start thinking yourself instead of blindly following the lies of the corporations.
The big oil companies, pharmaceutical companies and (in the US) health insurance companies are bastions of greed and shameless profit. What the conservatives don't understand is that as the discrepancy between the upper and lower classes grows, armed and violent revolution becomes inevitable. They don't read or study history- there are repeated examples of rich getting too rich- French revilution is but one. If you don't care about your fellow humans they will revolt against you!
In the USA people are not going to tolerate the old, sick and needy dying in the street because they don't have insurance. It's not going to get tolerated and politicians who allow it will be revolted against and possibly killed. It is the pattern of human history.
In the USA people are not going to tolerate the old, sick and needy dying in the street because they don't have insurance. It's not going to get tolerated and politicians who allow it will be revolted against and possibly killed. It is the pattern of human history.
Cloud, I vote for a government that gives me and others jobs and keeps taxes low. The Liberals are the exact opposite of what I am looking for in a governing body. The BS about taxes to help go green. If the new carbon tax was to assist in green ventures why does it not go into a separate fund that can be distributed for alternative energy projects, something we can keep track of instead of into the general tax slush fund for the government to do as they please. Why does JT take over 200 people to these overseas conventions, the carbon footprint of the Liberals is huge, the spending of the Liberals is huge with no new jobs, the taxes and cost of living will go up a lot. Sheep are people who allow this to happen without saying a word, just following along and nodding your head, duh huh yup, continue to fuck us over. I do not care if a bug coropration makes billions as long as they give people good paying jobs with benifits and put enough into government coffers so the taxes will be kept low. Look how poorly Ontario and Quebec are doing economically, liberal stragity or plain stupidity. The polls say the Ontario people are fed up with the Liberals and the Conservatives will win the next election, if that happens the liberals will be out in the next federal election.
Trudeau spouts that he approved a pipeline, therd is not a shovel that has hit the ground and with all the conditions it will not happen during his term. It was a springboard for his carbon tax because he stated that he approved it due to the Alberta NDP putting a carbon tax out in 2017... Bullshit. Tou need to read between the lines on shit like this.
As I said earlier Trudeau will go over Harpers deficit in half the time and you people that bitched about the Harper deficit do not even notice that he boasted a 30 billion dollar deficit in his 4 year term and it will go over that by 100 billion.... Of course you do not notice... Baaaa Baaaa
Trudeau spouts that he approved a pipeline, therd is not a shovel that has hit the ground and with all the conditions it will not happen during his term. It was a springboard for his carbon tax because he stated that he approved it due to the Alberta NDP putting a carbon tax out in 2017... Bullshit. Tou need to read between the lines on shit like this.
As I said earlier Trudeau will go over Harpers deficit in half the time and you people that bitched about the Harper deficit do not even notice that he boasted a 30 billion dollar deficit in his 4 year term and it will go over that by 100 billion.... Of course you do not notice... Baaaa Baaaa
This is a total cop out. You are an oil and gas man with heavy invested bias. Shame on this cheap dodge. DON'T go back to the same closed garbage
Environmental concerns are totally legit on this topic as it always has been. If the issue of health of the Earth and human beings hurts some oil company profits and jobs...too bad. There doesn't have to be any climate change at all to know what damage can be done and has been done for many decades. Your problem is if something does happen it can seriously damage or wreck the area it happens in. You don't like that the people living near this threat fear it and want to opposite? Well, WELCOME to the reality of being in your industry. People don't like the risk of living next to extremely toxic delivery systems that can threaten their lives. Human beings who have to live with this threat are kinda funny that way.
I have not given an opinion on whether the pipeline should be blocked or not. So your posing that I am opposed is fake. In Alaska a solution was reached. If those in charge of the this oil system in Canada are serious about finding a FAIR resolution then they should be able to build it. If they want to force it through without compromise and secure methods that satisfy people in fear of the risks then they are being very foolish.
Try to keep up, this thread is not anout pipelines but about Quebec starting up its oil and gas exploration again. My point is that Quebec was/is opposed to the pipeline coming from Alberta but sure as shit they pour into the StLawarance the pipelines from Quebec fields will find no opposition.
Canada is carbon neutral or probably carbon negative, we produce 1.6% of the worlds pollution, we have the most environmentally friendly oil and gas extractions. The protesters here are paid for by foreign money. We spend over 100 billion importing oil from countries that have no environmental concerns and have huge human rights issues, it comes here in huge ships spewing vast amounts of pollution during its journey. I read up on climate change in various sites, I read up on extraction processes in various countries, I know what I am talking about. You, you fill up your car with gas and run your mouth about environmental issues.
You should quit snorting corn flakes, I have never said you were opposed to pipelines, enjoy ripping your mouth open again? Trying to find a new topic to get involved in, do some research first.
For the people saying every little bit of environmental improvement helps, I agree. I recycle, I do not burn plastics or other toxic pollutants, and drive fuel efficent vehicles, I also teach my kids the same. Canada foing to extreme measures to cut back 20% of 1.6% pollution will make no difference at all to our environment. There are no protesters anywhere but Canada because we let them get away with it and foreign money keeps the protesters in Canada, GreenPeace tried to do something on Russia and cried like little babies after they were thrown on jail, in India, China or Saudia Arabia they would be thrown onto such a dee hole they would never see daylight again. Instead of fucking over Canadian citizens with the BS carbon tax which will do zero good run you mouth where the problems really are. Oh but wait, that would be too much of an effort, easier to bitch about it in Canada.
Feasable green is not ready yet and is still a decade or two away, look at what happened to Go Green Ontario, a bankrupt province, Australia is also pulling out of the climate change farce, other countries are also seeing taxes and green energy does not work, Germany spent hundreds of billions and are seeing no positive results. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you think bankrupting Canada for an end result of zero is worth it. Sty away from CBC and the Toronto Star or other left wing news who probably get funding from the Liberals.... CBC comes to mind on that one.
Feasable green is not ready yet and is still a decade or two away, look at what happened to Go Green Ontario, a bankrupt province, Australia is also pulling out of the climate change farce, other countries are also seeing taxes and green energy does not work, Germany spent hundreds of billions and are seeing no positive results. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you think bankrupting Canada for an end result of zero is worth it. Sty away from CBC and the Toronto Star or other left wing news who probably get funding from the Liberals.... CBC comes to mind on that one.
Which was all I was saying...yet...the angry objection despite agreement.
No. Any country making any cutback can help. Improvement doesn't have to be dramatic to be an improvement. Maybe 20% cutback is too harsh, maybe not enough. Still, an unbiased scientific viewpoint would be much more legitimate than that of an industry insider regardless of whatever industry might be involved.
You mean Canada is not an oppressive dictatorship. I agree. Are you suggesting we deny the right to protest or also jail protesters ?
Simple fact, the mechanisms that maintain our standard of living require certain risks with how to keep them running because they cannot run without certain required resources therefore we must us them at this time. However, issues surrounding use of those resources came about because of recklessness in the past. If there is anyone to blame for the problems surrounding use today it's those industries/corporation whose methods put people in fear. Otherwise you're blaming people for complaining about the damage that was put upon them by these industries.
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