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They COULD very be independent dealers that have nothing to do with gangs. Just a thought ... .

It's way too big for independent dealer. Just try to get that amount of coke, you will not be able.
 

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Booking a worldwide cruise when you do not have the justifiable income is definitely not Low key ,the mastermind behind this missed it or wanted to miss ?Future will reveal it ?

BookerL,

I was thinking about this very good question and you are right that it doesn't add up. I can see mules being put on a $20,000 per person cruise on the theory that these significantly wealthy individuals will perhaps not draw as much canvassing scrutiny as the average person but in that case, you want someone who can look and behave like a wealthy and seasoned traveller. This particular cruise may have been targeted because the principal believed security at the ports of call was weak. The cruise passengers may not be subject to the same rigorous customs check as someone entering the country via an airport.

The connection between the 63 year old Tamine and the two young women is key. My theory is that Tamine is the actual mule and the two girls were hired by Tamine as escorts or trip girls on instructions of the principal. Tamine was therefore given significant incentive to become an intermediary mule- a paid for trip, escorts for the trip and instructions to stash the drugs in their belongings. If this is true, only Tamine will be able to identify the principal, not the girls, which was the princioal's plan if they got caught. I am guessing Tamine could be an uncle or other trusted confidante of the supplier who will not roll on him with the Aussie cops.

The girls might not even know that Tamine stashed the drugs in their suitcase.

I actually heard of this same MO once before of using two layers of mules- an older male mule who then gives the contraband to the younger naive unsuspecting mule who doesn't know shit.

This is the only way any of this story makes any sense.
 

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The connection between the 63 year old Tamine and the two young women is key. My theory is that Tamine is the actual mule and the two girls were hired by Tamine as escorts or trip girls on instructions of the principal. Tamine was therefore given significant incentive to become an intermediary mule- a paid for trip, escorts for the trip and instructions to stash the drugs in their belongings. If this is true, only Tamine will be able to identify the principal, not the girls, which was the princioal's plan if they got caught. I am guessing Tamine could be an uncle or other trusted confidante of the supplier who will not roll on him with the Aussie cops.

The girls might not even know that Tamine stashed the drugs in their suitcase.

I actually heard of this same MO once before of using two layers of mules- an older male mule who then gives the contraband to the younger naive unsuspecting mule who doesn't know shit.

This is the only way any of this story makes any sense.

You raise good points. I've known many sps over the years who have travelled with 'clients' to various parts of the world. It never really occurred to me until now that this scenario could very easily happen to some of them if they are not more careful or aware of their client's full intentions during the trip.

So to the ladies reading this board, be more vigilant when you agree to go on a trip with a client.
 

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In Mexico we met a couple of Canadians. The day we left one of them said she had bought so many souvenirs her suitcase would be overweight. I had packed very light, would I mind bringing back some of her stuff and mailing it to her? She had a makeup bag that felt like a brick she wanted me to carry.

Maybe that's how these things start?
 

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would I mind bringing back some of her stuff and mailing it to her? Maybe that's how these things start?

Never. Could be legit, but once you're in and it isn't legit they would do everything to keep you in. No doubt some heavy coercion.

Too bad about these women. Beauty has little to do with sense or brains. They played the odds and lost. Too bad their youth is going to be spent in prison, but though I sympathize with that part I have ZERO sympathy for anyone who deals in recreational drugs. While I might feel sorry for what happens to beautiful young women I am embarrassed about that because the simple fact is two fools who cared nothing for anyone else and what they were doing to others were peddling danger. No more and definitely no less. Who knows what this stuff would have been cut with. The latest has been deadly elephant tranquilizers. DAMN! So, screw em. They're getting what they deserve.
 

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I would not be surprised if Tamine beats the rap or gets off with a just a few years. These people are the stupids that mule the dope. Tamine was there as a minder. The were arrested in Australia where you can not get a "Price is Right" deal.
 

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[h=2]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/bikini-babes-arrested-australia-over-8760544[/h]
Turns out the sugar daddy theory might make sense...

"Roberge's former boyfriend described her to the Mail Online as a “superficial woman always turned on by money and on the look-out for a sugar daddy”."

So she probably took on a sugar daddy to use him for money when actually he was probably the one using them.

They will now have many years in prison to reflect how stupid they are.

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Jalimon here is the link you meant to post:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/bikini-babes-arrested-australia-over-8739502

Yes it is obvious Tamine is the Sugar Daddy as these girls didn't have the funds for this type of vacation. The question is who were these 3 mules working for?

No copy paste my link you will see a news post which add a spicy element as it turns out Isabelle Lagacé did some online porn...

I have read somewhere that the first tip US authority got were from gang source info. They began the puzzled from there. The trail on social media made it probably quite easy...

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No copy paste my link you will see a news post which add a spicy element as it turns out Isabelle Lagacé did some online porn...

I have read somewhere that the first tip US authority got were from gang source info. They began the puzzled from there. The trail on social media made it probably quite easy...

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Yes Jalimon

But I had already posted a acticle on it


EXCLUSIVE: Fast cars, sugar daddies, champagne, foreign vacations - and a porn star past: The VERY racy lives of the 'drug mules' accused of $30m cocaine smuggling bid in Australia




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Yes Jalimon

But I had alredy posted a acticle on it

Oups sorry missed that.

The gang must have put their confiance on the 63 year old dude. They would have never approved these 2 young and innoncent (stupid) girls to be the mules. They are wiser than that, usually...

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The girls will then have to choose between life in prison or maybe 15-20 years only of incarceration if they get worn down by the cops and rat out their supplier. What choice do you think they will make, BookerL?


Hello EB


You really believe the girls know the supplier ?
Do you believe the guy really knows the true supplier or just a front to him like he was a front to the girls following your theory of fronting/mules for someone ?




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Who knows Booker, I think it's fairly clear they were mules. The mules are the ones who get caught and that is why they are assigned to be mules. I actually said it was unlikely the girls knew who the supplier was. They were dupes. Know-nothings. Sgt. Schultz characters by design.
 

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In Mexico we met a couple of Canadians. The day we left one of them said she had bought so many souvenirs her suitcase would be overweight. I had packed very light, would I mind bringing back some of her stuff and mailing it to her? She had a makeup bag that felt like a brick she wanted me to carry.

Maybe that's how these things start?

Interesting. Yes most probably some small amount of stuff are delivered this way. Using the stupidity of people just like people who respond to african scammers email who want to transfer you 1 million from their bank in Djibouti ;)

But here were talking 95K. This is too much, the 3 of them knew what they were carying for sure..

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You raise good points. I've known many sps over the years who have travelled with 'clients' to various parts of the world.

Prior to the Internet and all the match sites, escort agencies had many proposals to send girls for extended trips.
Which most often I declined because they where suspicious




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How did they expect to get past customs?
That suitcase is stuffed with cocaine, it's not even hidden.
As soon as an Agent opens it they will see the drugs.

There are a lot of red flags on this operation and this would be the biggest one. Not sure it's easy to hide $30 million in Cocaine but once a suitcase is opened this is an easy bust and one must ask if there was a better method of concealment.
 

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Prior to the Internet and all the match sites, escort agencies had many proposals to send girls for extended trips.
Which most often I decline because they where suspicious

That's a shame, I had a lady join me for week in Mexico and it was the time of my life!

(Second best time...wink)
 

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Hello EB and all


If the supplier is in Quebec, he/she has already gone to an attorney and looked at the extradition treaty between Canada and Australia. That supplier must be shitting bricks right now at the prospect of the girls singing, don't you think?

So you are answering your own question by no ,the supplier isn't shitting bricks right now because the girls has no clue of who he is ?

Who knows Booker, I think it's fairly clear they were mules. The mules are the ones who get caught and that is why they are assigned to be mules. I actually said it was unlikely the girls knew who the supplier was. They were dupes. Know-nothings. Sgt. Schultz characters by design.




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How did they expect to get past customs?
That suitcase is stuffed with cocaine, it's not even hidden.
As soon as an Agent opens it they will see the drugs.


No passage trough Customs ,plastic is water proof ............a boat & plenty of water .........


There are a lot of red flags on this operation and this would be the biggest one.


For any type of smugglers or retired smuggler the answer is simple !
Tobacco ,alcohol weighed way more then drugs for lesser amounts of money and it was still feasible without ever being caught


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