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Hello, so I've been lurking here for a while now and took a break from a very short career dating escorts. However, I'm in a bit of a midlife crisis right now (sexual chemistry with my wife is trending towards nil) and I want to get back to meet women. On the other hand, I don't want to put her in danger, so I would like to protect myself (and her) as much as possible against HPV which is so easy to get. I saw that it was possible to receive doses of Gardasil even in my early 40s, so this is something that interests me. By the way, I know that it doesn't protect from all strand of HPV, but I do think that I would be in a better position by being vaccinated.

However, there is a problem: my wife is a medical doctor in a university hospital in Quebec and can observe my medical file practically at any time (this has already happened in the past to get lab test results more quickly, for example ). It would therefore be a major problem that she finds in my medical file that I was vaccinated against HPV, at the age of 40, without me talking to her about it. Quite shady let's say! I would therefore like to know if there is a method of receiving the vaccine in Quebec WITHOUT the information being found in my medical file. Thanks!
 
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Hello, so I've been lurking here for a while now and took a break from a very short career dating escorts. However, I'm in a bit of a midlife crisis right now (sexual chemistry with my wife is trending towards nil) and I want to get back to meet women. On the other hand, I don't want to put her in danger, so I would like to protect myself (and her) as much as possible against HPV which is so easy to get. I saw that it was possible to receive doses of Gardasil even in my early 40s, so this is something that interests me. By the way, I know that it doesn't protect from all strand of HPV, but I do think that I would be in a better position by being vaccinated.

However, there is a problem: my wife is a medical doctor in a university hospital in Quebec and can observe my medical file practically at any time (this has already happened in the past to get lab test results more quickly, for example ). It would therefore be a major problem that she finds in my medical file that I was vaccinated against HPV, at the age of 40, without me talking to her about it. Quite shady let's say! I would therefore like to know if there is a method of receiving the vaccine in Quebec WITHOUT the information being found in my medical file. Thanks!
The DSQ is a big confidentiality issue, especially considering that people can decide to consult your file just like this.
I got the vaccine at a travel clinic at the same time as vaccines for travel.
At my 3rd dose, I asked if they could not add it to my dsq. They refused.
Then when i went for my covid vaccine, the lady there said “so you had guardasil a month ago”. Thankfully, I was alone.

I would say call some private clinics and ask if they would be willing to give you the vaccine anonymously or by considering you a foreigner without verifying your identity.
 
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The DSQ is a big confidentiality issue, especially considering that people can decide to consult your file just like this.
I got the vaccine at a travel clinic at the same time as vaccines for travel.
At my 3rd dose, I asked if they could not add it to my dsq. They refused.
Then when i went for my covid vaccine, the lady there said “so you had guardasil a month ago”. Thankfully, I was alone.

I would say call some private clinics and ask if they would be willing to give you the vaccine anonymously or by considering you a foreigner without verifying your identity.

Oh yeah I think it's pretty bad. I can't even trust travel clinic. Honestly, I think my best guess would be to get a shot once I'm in the US or something like that... unless someone has a solution for private shot here that is not reported in the DSQ.
 

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Oh yeah I think it's pretty bad. I can't even trust travel clinic. Honestly, I think my best guess would be to get a shot once I'm in the US or something like that... unless someone has a solution for private shot here that is not reported in the DSQ.
It is a 3 dose vaccines.

I would call some private clinics and ask them if they are willing to give you the shot without checking ID. Just give them a fake name.
 

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Hello, so I've been lurking here for a while now and took a break from a very short career dating escorts. However, I'm in a bit of a midlife crisis right now (sexual chemistry with my wife is trending towards nil) and I want to get back to meet women. On the other hand, I don't want to put her in danger, so I would like to protect myself (and her) as much as possible against HPV which is so easy to get. I saw that it was possible to receive doses of Gardasil even in my early 40s, so this is something that interests me. By the way, I know that it doesn't protect from all strand of HPV, but I do think that I would be in a better position by being vaccinated.

However, there is a problem: my wife is a medical doctor in a university hospital in Quebec and can observe my medical file practically at any time (this has already happened in the past to get lab test results more quickly, for example ). It would therefore be a major problem that she finds in my medical file that I was vaccinated against HPV, at the age of 40, without me talking to her about it. Quite shady let's say! I would therefore like to know if there is a method of receiving the vaccine in Quebec WITHOUT the information being found in my medical file. Thanks!
You can always tell her you want the vaccine cause you re scared of head and neck cancer. There is a chance it could be therapeutical for existing throat infection, and you cant tell if you are currently infected.
 

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Hello, so I've been lurking here for a while now and took a break from a very short career dating escorts. However, I'm in a bit of a midlife crisis right now (sexual chemistry with my wife is trending towards nil) and I want to get back to meet women. On the other hand, I don't want to put her in danger, so I would like to protect myself (and her) as much as possible against HPV which is so easy to get. I saw that it was possible to receive doses of Gardasil even in my early 40s, so this is something that interests me. By the way, I know that it doesn't protect from all strand of HPV, but I do think that I would be in a better position by being vaccinated.

However, there is a problem: my wife is a medical doctor in a university hospital in Quebec and can observe my medical file practically at any time (this has already happened in the past to get lab test results more quickly, for example ). It would therefore be a major problem that she finds in my medical file that I was vaccinated against HPV, at the age of 40, without me talking to her about it. Quite shady let's say! I would therefore like to know if there is a method of receiving the vaccine in Quebec WITHOUT the information being found in my medical file. Thanks!
How about going in a private pharmacy/clinic in Ontario or new brunswick?
 

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If you don't want it in dsq, you must get it outside of quebec...
I've worked in pharmacy, and it is mandatory now for every vaccine to be entered into the dsq...

You could get the prescription from your dr, and get the shots done in ontario would be my guess on how to get around the system... but i don't know if other provinces are able to do it or if they have to record it.. but ontario likely doesn't have access to dsq to enter it on is my guess...
 

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No plans will pay for it for older people in the US. I thought getting the shots was worthwhile so I just paid for it myself at a doctor's office. It cost $200 for each of 3 shots a few years ago. You could probably still do this, albeit with some increase in the price.

I think there could be privacy issues that you could control in the US. Vermont is not that far for you.
 

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You can get gardasil-9 at a clinic in the US, but yes, it will be out-of-pocket and not cheap. Total cost is near $1K now. And it may be put on your vaccination record.

The CDC recommendations against older men getting it are garbage. They say it's not necessary because by middle age, most men have magically become exposed to all the HPV variants that gardasil covers.

They should just say they want to protect insurance plans from covering the costs.

The consequences of HPV are often much worse for women than men, so the CDC should also just come out and say that they won't help men protect their female partners.
 

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The Quebec immunization program is now only recommending 2 doses for most people. So it’s cheaper than before.
 

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In Quebec, the administration of the HPV vaccine primarily occurs under the supervision of healthcare providers, including doctors and clinics. This process involves recording the vaccine information in your medical file, ensuring comprehensive documentation and facilitating necessary follow-up care. Regrettably, there is no known method to circumvent this system, unless one were to utilize someone else's name and engage a doctor who is willing to take a significant risk of jeopardizing their professional license. However, it is worth noting that in Ontario, Alberta, and British Columbia, there may be an alternative option available through private clinics in those provinces. This appears to be the solution that would make sense.
 

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You can always tell her you want the vaccine cause you re scared of head and neck cancer. There is a chance it could be therapeutical for existing throat infection, and you cant tell if you are currently infected.
Not sure about that going over too good. LO is a doctor, not an idiot.
 

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I was going to open a thread to ask something about this HPV vaccine topic, but I think I might as well go here. It is worth getting vaccinated with this vaccine as an adult who has had an active sexual life for years. I am in my 40s.
 

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I was going to open a thread to ask something about this HPV vaccine topic, but I think I might as well go here. It is worth getting vaccinated with this vaccine as an adult who has had an active sexual life for years. I am in my 40s.
Yes it is.. I was like 35 when I got it... didn't know I was returning to this field, but got it just for my own protection never knowing what the future holds... (and had a family member die of cervical cancer, so fear of seeing it happen to someone else).
 

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The medical recommendations against people getting the vaccine seem to be directed at keeping insurance payments down, not about actually helping people.

HPV is more dangerous to women (statistically, if I remember right) than men... so it seems like men would be doing the decent thing for their partners by getting vaccinated.
 
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sorry to disagree got an aquaintance who has throat cancer from this same type micheal douglas had both got from daty
In 2013, the two-time Oscar-winner revealed to Xan Brooks of the Guardian that his illness was the result of contracting human papillomavirus (HPV), which experts believe can be brought on by cunnilingus.



both the above caught it in time and with treatment are still alive
co worker got throat cancer as well= was agressive he= disinigrated from a big man to a shell of himself and dies in a very short time

Right. Your reminder is good. Not disagreeing at all that it has dangers for everybody, but there's a reason why women get screened for it and men don't. Per the CDC, "Every year, about 19,400 women and 12,100 men experience cancers caused by HPV."

My point is that if there is a safe and effective vaccine that protects from some forms of HPV (though not all!), it's irresponsible for the government to say that some types of people would not benefit from it.
 

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Right. Your reminder is good. Not disagreeing at all that it has dangers for everybody, but there's a reason why women get screened for it and men don't. Per the CDC, "Every year, about 19,400 women and 12,100 men experience cancers caused by HPV."

My point is that if there is a safe and effective vaccine that protects from some forms of HPV (though not all!), it's irresponsible for the government to say that some types of people would not benefit from it.


Isn't it because if you're older and have had multiple partners already, you've probably already been exposed to many of them? I know that's what they used to say but has that changed?

BTW those of you who haven't already should get your hep vaccines. 3 doses. I'm sure other places offer it but La Licorne has them for free. Maybe they have HPV too, I haven't asked
 

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Glad you brought this up
.initally i got just hep b vaccine when i got devorced and was sexually active again as my dr said hep b is a epidemic .
guy at work got hep b he was so sick he could not even keep down a teaspoon of water.
10 yrs later
my dr said would be a good idea to get a booster b and since i never had the hep a vaccine i got twinrix 1st shot(A+B) havrix 2nd shot (hep A 2nd shot)

So is it 2 or 3 doses? I remember getting 3 the first time around a long time ago.. I think? But yeah, this time around I only got two but I assumed it was because I still had antibodies. I might have misunderstood and it's 2 regardless? Idk lol
 
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