Question on protection etiquette

[Dubberrucks]

Massage enthusiast interesting in doing some hobbying in MTL here.

Etiquette question: Is it inappropriate to insist on CBJ or, say, a dam for DATY?

Background: I rationally recognize that the odds of catching anything are slim. I also know that I will, inevitably, get paranoid and remain paranoid until I am tested. Rather than go through that, I’d rather just use protection - but I’m curious if that would strike providers as odd / rude / inappropriate.

Thoughts?

 

[Halloween Mike]

CBJ shouldn't be a problem. I heard some providers may actually prefer BBBJ as sucking on rubber ain't there ideal of fun BUT i am sure if you really want it, it will never be a problem.

On the other hand i am not sure if the SP carries those "DAM thing" for DATY... Better bring your own if you need this.

 

[kellie]

Cbj is never a problem i think! Of course it’s not the best tastewise but even if i do bbbj i’m always a bit relieved when the guy wants protection because as much as you being worried, we ( or at least i ) can be too.

About the dam, i would agree with Mike and say bring your own, just in case. Better be safe than sorry ☺️

I hope you enjoy your time and have as mich fun as you can

Kellie

 

[Red Paul]

I rationally recognize that the odds of catching anything are slim.

Not that slim, as far as I'm concerned.

... I’d rather just use protection - but I’m curious if that would strike providers as odd / rude / inappropriate.

In my experience, yes, it does strike an escort as rude if you say they have to use cbj. They think you think they're dirty.

The trick is to say "Do you prefer a condom for oral sex?" or even "I bet you prefer a condom for oral sex. The pretty girls all prefer," etc. And say it before anybody's clothes are off.

Of course, a girl might say that, no, she doesn't prefer a condom. But so far none have.

 

[anon_vlad]

I would guess that the vast majority of SPs wouldn't mind CBJ in the slightest. After all they know that one cannot see if a client has an STD, so they should be relieved. If an explanation is necessary, I think any of the three following reasons would be acceptable.
1) You are a germaphobe.
2) Your SO will end your relationship and/or cut off your balls when you sleep if you bring back an STD.
3) You come too quickly with BBJ.

Obviously, none of these can offend as you are saying that it is your "fault" and that the SP had nothing to do with your decision.

 

[jalimon]

Etiquette question: Is it inappropriate to insist on CBJ or, say, a dam for DATY?

I have no problem with cbj. Got it often and as long as the girl is fine with it I am ok. That said, much prefer bbbj.

But a dam for daty? Nah no way. I would then just forget about daty. None of the 2 party will enjoy a dam daty anyhow. Focus on other secured pleasure.

Cheers,

 

[Red Paul]

The odds of catching something through BBBJ or DATY are so remote that I personally never considered CBJ let alone any DATY dam.

I've been infected twice by bbj and I'm not adenturous. I go only to well-known agencies.

 

[transatlantic]

The odds of catching something through BBBJ or DATY are so remote that I personally never considered CBJ let alone any DATY dam. I have a far greater chance of catching something when using public restrooms and yet still use them as I simply can’t eliminate all risks from my day to day activities. There is also a risk of me being involved in an automobile accident, yet I still drive.

There is a risk of passing on herpes (HSV1/HSV2), gonorrhea and/or chlamydia from BBBJ/DATY but I didn't know the risk was even greater from using an urinal.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

The little bastards use the toothpicks rednecks spit into the urinals to pole vault.

 

[smuler]

The little bastards use the toothpicks rednecks spit into the urinals, to pole vault.

ound:ound:ound:

Like Crabs ( AKA Crotch Crickets )

Best Regards
Smuler

 

[transatlantic]

The little bastards use the toothpicks rednecks spit into the urinals to pole vault.

LOL. I thought they were swimming upstream like salmon returning to breed.

 

[Rosie Sparkles]

For real, it's super chill to ask for cbj. It is safer. And yes, there is a risk to catch its with bbbj. The only thing that you cannot catch is HIV but you can get all the other shits. Yep. Go to a public health website and educate yourselves~~

 

[transatlantic]

For risk factors, aside from the toilet seat, there’s the handle when you flush as well as the faucet handles when you wash your hands. There have been instances where serious illnesses like E.Coli and Hepatitis A were acquired upon frequenting public restrooms.

Don't think one can really compared the risk of the public restrooms to BBBJ without considering the impact. Hep A can be vaccinated against in advance. E coli can be addressed after catching it. Can't get rid of herpes.

But if one is really concern about risk from public restrooms...

There's a "covered" version of that in the form of using toilet seat cover/paper towel/toilet paper for seat and flush handle. Some flush levers can be operated by foot.

I would recommend any/all of these unless of course one prefers the bareback feel of the flush handle or toilet seat against one’s skin and spend considerable amount of time stroking/rubbing against that handle/seat.

You can also wash your hands with soap afterwards.

 

[F117]

The odds of catching something through BBBJ or DATY are so remote that I personally never considered CBJ let alone any DATY dam. I have a far greater chance of catching something when using public restrooms and yet still use them as I simply can’t eliminate all risks from my day to day activities. There is also a risk of me being involved in an automobile accident, yet I still drive.

Bottom line ... there is risk with everything we do, no need to stress ourselves over an event or scenario which is unlikely to occur.

My last 3 visits with local US ladies (all had dozens of glowing reviews over several years and were in the $300.00 USD / hour range) resulted in me getting:

1. Chlamydia,
2. Chlamydia,
3. Strep.

All activities were covered and protected except BBBJ. So MY probabilities of catching an STD from unprotected BBBJ was 100%. I am not a "frequent flier" - I hobby maybe 4 - 6 time a year, if that, and do hours of research before I make an appointment.

I have never caught anything contagious from a public toilet.

Just sayin'.

 

[luvdozer]

I am sorry to hear about your terrible run of luck. That would certainly frighten me.

That being said, your experience does not match up with the experience of most people on this board or the peer reviewed medical literatue. I wouldnt hazard a guess as to why 3 bbbj would result in 3 infections in one person while I have had more bbbj s than I can count and have always tested clean, but if I were in your shoes, I would certainly be gun shy.

 

[transatlantic]

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-43571120

He had a regular partner in the UK, but picked up the superbug after a sexual encounter with a woman in south-east Asia.

I guess he's got some explaining to do.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I have never caught anything contagious from a public toilet.
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But you learned to lift up and put down the lid with your foot and flush also.

 

[F117]

Bon jour Hanna,

Yes, I had follow up tests in each case and each follow up came back negative for everything. In the Strep B case, I had not had sex for several months, saw the provider, no DFK, no DATY / DATO, the only unprotected activity was her DT on me. Two weeks later, sharp stabbing pain in the kidneys, burning sensation when urinating, difficulty urinating, etc., etc. Took the whizz quizz and it came back positive for Strep B.

I did not tell the "ladies", as in this part of the world, they immediately go on to the "Ladies Only" section of the local equivalent of MERB and blacklist you - they say that you infected them, not as it happened. And no local provider will ever see you. But I have decided because of this bad run of fortune that I will no longer see local ladies, particularly ones that advertise and are well rated on the local bulletin board. I save all of my money and come to Montreal as often as I can!

The other thing that people don't consider is the resistance to antibiotics resulting in MDs having to use stronger and stronger antibiotics over time. The newest antibiotics are pretty rough on your internal organs.

I appreciate your perspective and insight, Hanna. A frank and mature discussion like this on STD's cannot take place in the United States - the board mods delete your posts and then cancel your account for discussing what they call a "forbidden topic". The other "forbidden topic" is drug use by providers. I did a lot of discreet checking, and no surprise, the most highly rated providers on my local board have a behind the scenes business relationship with the board mods. The mods are basically pimps for diseased and drug addicted "ladies".

You have no idea how good the hobby scene is in Montreal!

Regards,

F117

 

[F117]

Salud Sol Tee Nutz,

No, when I was infected, no matter which way I aimed, I always hit the wall, the floor, myself, etc., so it really didn't matter.

:bounce:

F117

 

[Belladivinemtl]

Fun fact for those talking about dental dams: You can make a "DYI" dam by taking a condom, cutting off the top and cutting it along one side. This is especially useful if the lady (or you) can't use latex because I have yet to find any late-free dams in Montreal.