Random thoughts (*rises from the dead*)

[Giselle Montreal]

En effet. On dirait que maintenant le site web doit être tout d’abord vu sur une plateforme de media social.. ce qui n’était pas le cas il y a 10 ans. Je suis probablement trop vieux pour comprendre ce qu’il y a de si difficile à seulement naviguer sur le web mais bon ...

Je postais mes annonces sur des sites où je n'avais pas besoin de les renouveller chaque jour, c'était passif, et ne "bumpais" qu'une ou deux annonces par jour. Il n'y avait pas de médias sociaux, ils sont arrivés plus tard et devenus nécessaires encore plus tard! On me voyait et on me trouvait pourtant. Aujourd'hui, on doit poster tous les jours sur les médias sociaux, on doit mettre des nouvelles photos constamment, on doit échanger avec les clients, on doit être actives tous les jours, sur tous les sites, car il faut se distinguer des gens non sérieux, de tous les scams et l'AI qui nous entoure. Je m'ennuie des annonces passives, mais l'Internet est devenu une bouillie pour chat et il faut patauger dedans.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Je postais mes annonces sur des sites où je n'avais pas besoin de les renouveller chaque jour, c'était passif, et ne "bumpais" qu'une ou deux annonces par jour. On me voyait et on me trouvait. Aujourd'hui, on doit poster tous les jours sur les médias sociaux, on doit mettre des nouvelles photos constamment, on doit échanger avec les clients, on doit être actives tous les jours, sur tous les sites, car il faut se distinguer des gens non sérieux, de tous les scams et l'AI qui nous entoure. Je m'ennuie des annonces passives, mais l'Internet est devenu une bouillie pour chat et il faut patauger dedans.

C'est vraiment épuisant et j'ai l'impression que souvent tout ce travail n'est pas apprécié ou remarqué. Il y a plusieurs personnes qui "like" des photos de moi en lingerie mais ne vont jamais me voir.

Juste écrire des commentaires ici c'est une manière d'avoir de la visibilité, mais parfois ce n'est pas le genre d'attention qu'on veut avoir.

 

[S.S neo]

Mais je pense qu'il y a une mauvaise compréhension de ce qu'est ce site si tu parles de Indy companion. Ce n'est pas qu'une plateforme de publicité, ce sont les membres d'un collectif vérifiés. Ce n'est pas une agence.

Plein de tds ne veulent pas oublier leur horaire ou publier sur Merb pour plein de raisons. Si tu va voir les réseaux sociaux de ces personnes tu verras beaucoup de photos. La plupart des TDS sont sur bluesky maintenant.

C’est justement mon point. Je ne veux pas me connecter à tous ces réseaux pour vérifier si une a publié sur X ou l’autre sur Bluesky ou Facebook ou sur Instagram ou quelle autre nouvelle plateforme encore ... J’ai probablement été un des premiers utilisateurs de Indy Companion et je comprends très bien le fonctionnement. En tant que client qui recherche seulement des TDS qui sont dans ce collectif (et je ne suis surement pas le seul) je dis simplement que lors de votre prochain C.A. vous pourriez peut-être discuter de certaines améliorations au site qui a très peu évolué en 10 ans. Mais je comprends aussi que vous n’avez peut-être pas la latitude pour faire des changements instantanés à vos profils sur le site. Anyway, c’est juste une suggestion comme on dit.

 

[Julia Sky]

Le point c'est surtout que les changements que tu proposes n'ont pas de sens.

1. Nos profils mènent à nos sites web, sur lesquels il y a toutes nos photos et informations. On a aussi la possibilité de changer notre photo sur le site, mais le plus important est en fait que le client fasse l'effort de regarder notre propre site, car once again... IC n'est pas une agence et tu es de toute manière sensé regarder notre site avant de nous contacter.

2. Il y a plein de gens qui ne publient pas leur horaire... Et le site web de IC met un certain temps (en heures) à se mettre à jour lors d'une modification, donc si on devait modifier notre horaire en permanence on ne s'en sortirait pas.

Pour les filtres, tu peux toujours chercher par mot clé!

 

[Lunaseraphim]

C’est justement mon point. Je ne veux pas me connecter à tous ces réseaux pour vérifier si une a publié sur X ou l’autre sur Bluesky ou Facebook ou sur Instagram ou quelle autre nouvelle plateforme encore ... J’ai probablement été un des premiers utilisateurs de Indy Companion et je comprends très bien le fonctionnement. En tant que client qui recherche seulement des TDS qui sont dans ce collectif (et je ne suis surement pas le seul) je dis simplement que lors de votre prochain C.A. vous pourriez peut-être discuter de certaines améliorations au site qui a très peu évolué en 10 ans. Mais je comprends aussi que vous n’avez peut-être pas la latitude pour faire des changements instantanés à vos profils sur le site. Anyway, c’est juste une suggestion comme on dit.

Mais j'ai l'impression que tu n'a pas compris ce que j'ai dit, plusieurs personnes ne veulent pas publier leur horaire et honnêtement voir le site internet de la personne et ses photos sur le site de Indy ça devrait être assez. On a aussi toutes des liens vers nos réseaux sur nos sites ou sur nos annonces ailleurs. Tout ça, ça devrait être assez pour nous rendre légitimes à vos yeux.

C'est pas tout le monde non plus qui veut décrire les "services offerts", pour de très bonnes raisons. Tu as juste à écrire à la personne et savoir quand elle est disponible, c'est pas si compliqué que ça. Mais c'est sur que beaucoup d'indy ne pouvons pas faire dans le dernière minute parce qu'on reçoit dans des condos qui ne sont pas toujours près de chez nous, et pour nous ce ne sont pas des "quarts de travail" comparativement à une agence ou un salon.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

C’est justement mon point. Je ne veux pas me connecter à tous ces réseaux pour vérifier si une a publié sur X ou l’autre sur Bluesky ou Facebook ou sur Instagram ou quelle autre nouvelle plateforme encore ... J’ai probablement été un des premiers utilisateurs de Indy Companion et je comprends très bien le fonctionnement. En tant que client qui recherche seulement des TDS qui sont dans ce collectif (et je ne suis surement pas le seul) je dis simplement que lors de votre prochain C.A. vous pourriez peut-être discuter de certaines améliorations au site qui a très peu évolué en 10 ans. Mais je comprends aussi que vous n’avez peut-être pas la latitude pour faire des changements instantanés à vos profils sur le site. Anyway, c’est juste une suggestion comme on dit.

IC est seulement une annonce passive pour pouvoir collectivement annoncer à moindre coût. Le but n'est pas d'avoir de "profil" directement sur le site. Pour des raisons légales il en a été décidé ainsi.

 

[twenty4seven]

Yeah, that's the one thing I guess I understand about guys that go to agencies: the schedule. Knowing who is working, and when/where, has it's advantages, I'm sure, but it's just not what I'm looking for bc I don't want to feel like I got squeezed into someone's tight... uh, workday lmao. So, sure, when I go to MTL I end up sometimes going through a couple of my favourite indy companions before I find someone who is available when I am but I don't mind it at all. In fact, I think it's part of the fun not knowing exactly who is where and when and getting to see new faces if my picks don't pan out initially. TBH tho, if there was an IC around me I'd likely go broke, so it's probably a good thing there isn't anything like it nearby.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yeah, that's the one thing I guess I understand about guys that go to agencies: the schedule. Knowing who is working, and when/where, has it's advantages, I'm sure, but it's just not what I'm looking for bc I don't want to feel like I got squeezed into someone's tight... uh, workday lmao. So, sure, when I go to MTL I end up sometimes going through a couple of my favourite indy companions before I find someone who is available when I am but I don't mind it at all. In fact, I think it's part of the fun not knowing exactly who is where and when and getting to see new faces if my picks don't pan out initially. TBH tho, if there was an IC around me I'd likely go broke, so it's probably a good thing there isn't anything like it nearby.

I'll speak for myself, for someone like you it's not as much a problem for short notice or even same day or sometimes a couple hours ahead because you ask for outcalls which is much easier for me. I have to go to the same location as my incall roughly but I don't have to get it ready and clean it after. Also sometimes our incalls are occupied by other people so we have to find other solutions or decline.

I think a lot of people don't want to post their schedule because it can come across as being "too available" or "not available enough". Our schedules also change a lot. I think sometimes when I give open schedules client assume that I'm either desperate for bookings or seeing multiple people in a row which is not the case. There are many reasons why some of us would rather not post our schedules.

 

[twenty4seven]

I think a lot of people don't want to post their schedule because it can come across as being "too available" or "not available enough". Our schedules also change a lot. I think sometimes when I give open schedules client assume that I'm either desperate for bookings or seeing multiple people in a row which is not the case. There are many reasons why some of us would rather not post our schedules.

I fully understand this, it's most definitely a catch-22. For me a full/busy schedule implies demand, sure, but while the scarcity of availability may drive some people to want to book more, it does the opposite for me. Not because of feeling like 1 of many people a provider might see in a day (that doesn't bother me at all), but because I'm always trying to optimize the best session for us both, where time constraints don't impact our ability to enjoy the time we have together, which is definitely something I felt with the few agency girls I have seen.

Whatever an sp chooses to share/not share about their schedule is the always correct answer for me.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I fully understand this, it's most definitely a catch-22. For me a full/busy schedule implies demand, sure, but while the scarcity of availability may drive some people to want to book more, it does the opposite for me. Not because of feeling like 1 of many people a provider might see in a day (that doesn't bother me at all), but because I'm always trying to optimize the best session for us both, where time constraints don't impact our ability to enjoy the time we have together, which is definitely something I felt with the few agency girls I have seen.

Whatever an sp chooses to share/not share about their schedule is the always correct answer for me.

A full of busy schedule doesn't mean the provider has seen more people during the day. Sometimes I'm not available after a certain time of the day because I'm hanging out with a friend. People make a lot of assumptions based on the way we describe our schedule and it can be annoying.. not announcing your schedule also creates a "rarity" effect.

There's definitely a type of client who is looking for a provider that doesn't advertise everywhere and isn't always available. It's annoying to me because I don't have another source of income, but I want to reach the point where I mostly have the type of booking I enjoy. It sucks but when you make yourself super available some people perceive you as having lower value and are uninterested.

 

[Skym]

Random thought but does the weather ever affect your mood?

it does for me. I can't stand rainy days! Puts me in a sour mood!

 

[LeDodo]

Random thought but does the weather ever affect your mood?

it does for me. I can't stand rainy days! Puts me in a sour mood!

It affects my muscle but on the bad side like muscle pain ...

 

[Skym]

Trials & tribulations of trying to book a popular Indy SP is like trying to get a Formula 1 ticket! It sells out fast!


Tried earlier today but it is what it is.

 

[Alucard87]

Random thought but does the weather ever affect your mood?

it does for me. I can't stand rainy days! Puts me in a sour mood!

Can make me sleep in sometimes but that's about it.

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

A sort of "client hallucination" that I am observing occasionally on this board: the belief that escorts don't age or don't change over years. Often expressed as a surprise that service, appearance, or enthusiam is not the same that it was 3,5, 7 years ago... As if escorts didn't age like other people. I believe this corresponds to a tendency towards objectification of women that is present in some clients.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

A sort of "client hallucination" that I am observing occasionally on this board: the belief that escorts don't age or don't change over years. Often expressed as a surprise that service, appearance, or enthusiam is not the same that it was 3,5, 7 years ago... As if escorts didn't age like other people. I believe this corresponds to a tendency towards objectification of women that is present in some clients.

I'm wondering if anyone has bothered asking specific escorts why enthusiasm and service has changed over the years.

I suspect these things may not have necessarily changed, but rather evolved. Some may have become more selective, and less available.

Maybe the service has changed with specific clients because some things are no longer tolerated. I wonder what their role is in this phenomenon.

I don't exactly have the same outlook on escorting that I did 2 years ago, but I also think there are different categories of clients and some who can truly benefit from these services more than others.

 

[LeDodo]

I'm wondering if anyone has bothered asking specific escorts why enthusiasm and service has changed over the years.

I suspect these things may not have necessarily changed, but rather evolved. Some may have become more selective, and less available.

Maybe the service has changed with specific clients because some things are no longer tolerated. I wonder what their role is in this phenomenon.

I don't exactly have the same outlook on escorting that I did 2 years ago, but I also think there are different categories of clients and some who can truly benefit from these services more than others.

But isn't it linked to the SP's experience? Meaning some services are tolerated because of less experience and the more you get the less tolerating you are.

Meaning that the pyramid of escorts from more experienced vs less is keeping that status quo

 

[Lunaseraphim]

But isn't it linked to the SP's experience? Meaning some services are tolerated because of less experience and the more you get the less tolerating you are.

Meaning that the pyramid of escorts from more experienced vs less is keeping that status quo

I think it varies, there are things I tolerate now that I didn't at all at first, but there are things that I don't allow anymore. Or it depends on my dynamic with specific clients, the energy they bring, their hygiene etc.

I think sometimes experienced SP's are more open to certain things, too. They are still here for a reason.

For me, it's all about respect, and I don't think I'm alone in this. There are certain types of clients I want to see, and some that I don't want to settle for anymore.

I'm also less likely to push for certain regulars to come back if I feel like the respect is not there and my energy is being drained for very little in return.

When you allow people you're not enthusiastic about seeing to drain all of your energy, you no longer have any for those who truly appreciate you or have the potential to be returning clients you would enjoy spending time with.

I think what I'm trying to explain is that it's a mutual exchange even if escorts are the ones providing the service.

 

[urquell]

This isn't something linked entirely to the SP. Mongers age too, both chronologically and in experience and their expectations and levels of measurement change. There is also a certain tendency to romanticize memory and to attribute more to the memory than the reality warranted. As Luna mentioned people evolve, on both sides of the equation, and it's not always realistic to try to recreate something from the past, especially if it was created in the feeling and chemistry of the moment.

 

[Johnny test]

When you come back after being away for a while this place seem weirder than before