Reviews of Indy girls never tell the whole truth!!!

[TheDon]

How can dude give an honest review of an Indy girl when she has more personal info on the dude than an agency girl.

For fear of retribution most dudes do not give honest reviews and leave out the bad parts or don't write reviews at all when they are bad.

When the Indy girl has you by the balls with your personal info she ends up getting good reviews!

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Really? Never heard that theory before. Agency can do the same as an indy if they wanted to.

 

[AmberRose]

That.... Makes no sense.

Some Indys require thorough screening, but not most, so no we don't all have their personal info, we probably know the same amount as an agency would.

Also, unless you're listing your handle during booking, we most likely won't know who you are if you keep identifying info out of the review.

Also, our job and reputation is more important than blackmailing you because of a bad review(sorry, you aren't that important).

You sound a tad paranoid my friend.

 

[blkone]

As Amber said... what you say makes no sense...

I personally have no children, no wife and I own the company I work for. I fear no 'retribution' and furthermore I have been nothing short of a gentleman with ladies that I have met and I do not see the point of a lady wasting her time trying to lash out "retribution" upon me for nothing.

Why would you fear 'retribution' anyways?

 

[Castor_Troy13]

While I appreciate many of your other posts, unfortunately TheDon I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you here. If anything, the opposite could be true in that if you write a review that an agency deems is overly critical of their services and/or member(s) of their roster, they can blackball you entirely from their agency and refuse to make any more bookings with you with the notion that you as a client are not a good fit for their agency.

Given the longevity of many agencies like XXXtase, MSC, Asservissante, Nadya's, etc., that could be a potential longterm blow (no pun intended) and cost you potentially many bookings you would have otherwise wished to make over the years.

I don't know the extent of the personal info you are giving to Indys prior to bookings, but as a general rule you should never provide any information you are not comfortable with. I think therein lies the problem here and not so much concern about how a review that you would write would be received. Overall I have to agree with Amber though that your argument seems to be based more on paranoia than any sort of merit or precedent

 

[Gabriella Laurence]

Discretion & confidentiality-2 cornerstone aspects of being a professional companion

How can dude give an honest review of an Indy girl when she has more personal info on the dude than an agency girl.

For fear of retribution most dudes do not give honest reviews and leave out the bad parts or don't write reviews at all when they are bad.

When the Indy girl has you by the balls with your personal info she ends up getting good reviews!

What a bunch of… pure silliness!

When the Indy girl <strike>has you by the balls with your personal info<strike> requires some basic personal information for screening purposes only, <strike>she ends up getting good reviews<strike> she ends up, vast majority of the time, avoiding bad dates and feeling way more comfortable and safe(r) about meeting with a new patron for the first time. As a result, the encounter has much more potential of being a great one.

No established SP who cares about her name and reputation is going to ruin her business by blackmailing/threatening a client over a bad review he has written (or might eventually write).

Where's the common sense and logic in all that?!
I guess one might think this way when paranoia and prejudice leads the way.

I wish some of you would stop contributing to some of the existing stereotypes, including the ones where SPs are dishonest and can’t be trusted.

 

[BookerL]

they can blackball you entirely from their agency and refuse to make any more bookings with you with the notion that you as a client are not a good fit for their agency.

Hello all

Someone that understand this business will not deliberately ,make a decision without good motive ,
A line of communication between client and Bookers ,normally should solve the issue and if not ,maybe the client should avoid the agency and if the problem reoccurs with other agencies ,maybe he should realize that he is the problem




Cheers




Booker

 

[Castor_Troy13]

Hello all

Someone that understand this business will not deliberately ,make a decision without good motive ,
A line of communication between client and Bookers ,normally should solve the issue and if not ,maybe the client should avoid the agency and if the problem reoccurs with other agencies ,maybe he should realize that he is the problem

I agree entirely, and I want to make clear that I was not suggesting that this is something that happens on a regular basis nor that this is something that happens without good cause. On the rare occasions I have seen this sort of thing happen, after reading the client's review it would be apparent to anyone that either they had unreasonably high expectations or there was something else about their particular disposition that would most likely not result in their having a positive interaction with anyone else on that particular agency's roster. As you said, these sorts of decisions are made in the best interests of both the agency AND the client.

The point I was trying to make though is that if for some reason you have any sort of hesitation about not being fully truthful in a review due to fear of retaliation, that fear would be infinitely more justified when reviewing someone from a prominent agency than an Indy. I think we are all in agreement here that the possibility of an Indy retaliating against you just for writing a truthful review is really not anything that is a reasonable fear or realistic possibility.

 

[BookerL]

I think we are all in agreement here that the possibility of an Indy retaliating against you just for writing a truthful review is really not anything that is a reasonable fear or realistic possibility.

We have to admit it is a complicated business ,with many different people interacting !
Who actually decides it is a

truthful review

If the Indy in question is a ATF of a few well known reviewers ,retaliation might not come directly from her, but indirectly isn't any better ,don't you think ?

Many other scenarios are possible and variations

Cheers




Booker

 

[Castor_Troy13]

Actually as I was writing my previous post, I was going to add emphasis to this particular word "truthful" as that is the key word in all of this.

If for some reason you were to have a less than stellar interaction with someone and deliberately exaggerate certain aspects of the encounter or deliberately omit positive aspects in order to make everything seem more negative than it actually was, then of course all bets are off.

Of course I (and I'm sure many others on here) would have very little sympathy for someone who is deliberately trying to sabotage someone else's business and cause them monetary loss just to settle some petty differences you may have had over the course of an hour that more often than not can be resolved with communication outside of these forums to try to make things right and reach a mutual understanding.

I do recall one user that a few days ago was very obviously writing "revenge" posts in regards to a booking he had made with Euphoria, posting the same negative review in three different places in an effort to permanently damage that SP's business. James handled that situation extremely professionally and luckily these types of situations are very few and far between. Also for those of us that have been on these boards for many years they are extremely easy to identify and disregard entirely. More often than not, negative reviews say more about the person writing them than the individual receiving them.

 

[PopeDover]

For fear of retribution most dudes do not give honest reviews and leave out the bad parts or don't write reviews at all when they are bad.

Truth :nod:

Whether or not those fears are unfounded is a different conversation, and retribution can take many different forms, some worse than others, but to deny the basic point here is ound:

 

[hungry101]

''Retaliation''? Is there a war going on?
No lady worth her salt would share or use personal infos ,it would be self destruction...

And as Sam21 was jesting about the only way an indy will consider holding someone balls is literally speaking and that's call playing...

For the most part I agree with you Lilly. I have seen an instance in the USA on a board that I used to participate called Sweet Dixie Forums where a John wrote a bad review. I guess he wouldn't let it go. The SP ended up outing him to his wife. And you are correct. This SP was not on my list but this act insured that she would never be on my list.

for the most part the service here in Montreal is as good as it gets. I have had equal service for less money but the service here is 2nd to none really. So the times I have opened the door and thought "ehh? She's OK" the girl would usually make up for any shortcomings with service with the exception of one notable date, I have not felt the duty to rail on any SP.
So if you did not think the session was worth the money than you should find a tactful way to say so. If she out and out rips you off or if she gives you bad service and didn't try then you have license to use less tact. If you were disappointed by who knocked on your door but she was nice and gave it the old college try than you have to be very tactful. To me this last case is the most difficult.

 

[talkinghead]

I agree with the posts here and have no worry about the Montreal scene, which is fantastic. But we (clients) are also very spoiled in Montreal because screening is about as painless as any place in North America. Agencies, of course, do not screen; and indies are very generous about seeing merbites with a history of sanity out here and with a reference from another provider. But it can be a very different scene in some of the big US cities; and, while I haven't used the verification services like preferred411 in a while, I have used them in the past--and they took not only my personal information (which they did verify) but my workplace/office information. So, especially for those of us who are married and have community-sensitive jobs, that's pretty hefty leverage they have. And while I have never felt threatened by an SP, I would certainly think twice about writing a (fair) critical review of someone who can obliterate my life in a second. For that matter, we've all seen posters out here who have written "meh" reviews or worse of popular SPs, only to get slammed by the chorus of fans. That doesn't happen often, and sometimes it's hard to tell what is "fair," but it does happen. My guess is that, for good reasons and bad, many of us don't want to write negative things--if only because ymmv, but also because we're polite and don't want to hurt feelings or hurt a girl's business. There's a lot at stake in a bad review--for both provider and client.

Anyway, thank god for Montreal and the great scene it offers.

 

[VictoriaJolie]

For the most part I agree with you Lilly. I have seen an instance in the USA on a board that I used to participate called Sweet Dixie Forums where a John wrote a bad review. I guess he wouldn't let it go. The SP ended up outing him to his wife. And you are correct. This SP was not on my list but this act insured that she would never be on my list.

for the most part the service here in Montreal is as good as it gets. I have had equal service for less money but the service here is 2nd to none really. So the times I have opened the door and thought "ehh? She's OK" the girl would usually make up for any shortcomings with service with the exception of one notable date, I have not felt the duty to rail on any SP.
So if you did not think the session was worth the money than you should find a tactful way to say so. If she out and out rips you off or if she gives you bad service and didn't try then you have license to use less tact. If you were disappointed by who knocked on your door but she was nice and gave it the old college try than you have to be very tactful. To me this last case is the most difficult.

Well been indy and worked for agencies i was sad to see the op comment as it definitely does not reflet reality.....Most indys have more requirements to meet as often they rent hotels and don't want ncns or fake calls but to my knowledge most reputable ones with never blackmail as their names is on the line..Same with reputable agencies...However it is really important that guys do their homeworks first...Don't order italian expecting greek food...So don't call a lady and book her if she is not your cup of tea.If the person doesn't look like the pictures nothing wrong to return them..But it's important to read descriptions...Shawm@godiva made a point to tell them i am very tall and statuesque lady and i am 33 after some didnt bother to read about me...
With indys you have a direct contact with the sp to built something with agencies not however doing homeworks help..Telling your problems or concerns to agencies can help revolving problems but complaining about severals girls asking discount to agencies and then telling different stories here may blurred the trust with the agencies..From what i read many reputable agencies make a point here to have clients problems addressed and try to resolve situations when it is an isolats case...If it is repeatitive with the same clients(they are people that are never happy let's just admit it)agencies may take the décisions to not book further and they may feel this person would never be happy.It's not blackmail but simply they feel they can't fullfill the need of the person.
I don't think it happen often but at time client should do a retropect on themself and the expectations they have...
Start positive,understand that chemiser isn't 100% guarantee

Montreal people or that hobby here are well compare to other market as price for value and choices of ladies

bisous VJ