Eastender is right: 3 year of college (CEGEP) in "techniques policières" (police technics?) and then I think it's 3-4 month at the Québec Police Institute in Nicolette (small Québec town). Nobody can become a cop in Québec without going down that road, unless they were a cop elsewhere with equivalent experience.
The facts requirements for size and all were lowered doesn't change much to the situation. Now the idea is to diffuse problems as much as possible instead of jumping into the battle and beating everybody who disagree. I deal with cops at various levels and heard stories who turned great without any violence but that would have turned ugly if the cops would have used only muscles. At that, womens often have an advantage for negotiations as they appear less threatening. But, no matter if it's a 7' beef or a 5' cutie, some morons will try their luck when they are in a group or even alone. Oliver, you had the perfect reaction. Even if the guy's gun was in the holster, we're not in a third world country so, talking with the cop is the best way to go, while complying to all his requests.
In this situation, where the cops were rushed, no negotiation were possible. If the cops wouldn't have shooted, chances are they would not be alive now or would have been seriously beaten. They did have something to worry about since other cops were beaten in the same area not long before.
30 years ago, the 6'4 cop jumping on a "black" without any provocation happened often but it wasn't making the news. Now, a cop only have to look at somebody sideways to have his ass kicked by political correctness.
IMHO, and other seems to agree, no matter who you are, if you decide to rush at anybody, it's not acceptable. If that person happen to be a cop, chances are you will get shot and it's too bad for you, you desserved it.
As of why the cops intercepted these guys, it's totally irrelevant. The proper response from these guys would have been to lodge a formal complaint for harrassement, not rushing the cops in a threathening manner as they did.
If we take into account the reason why these guys were intercepted, we might as well accept that peoples beat the hell of beggars who try to get cigarettes ! Why waste time asking the beggar to stop? After you beat him, he'll definetly stop! Of course, that's not acceptable.
The facts requirements for size and all were lowered doesn't change much to the situation. Now the idea is to diffuse problems as much as possible instead of jumping into the battle and beating everybody who disagree. I deal with cops at various levels and heard stories who turned great without any violence but that would have turned ugly if the cops would have used only muscles. At that, womens often have an advantage for negotiations as they appear less threatening. But, no matter if it's a 7' beef or a 5' cutie, some morons will try their luck when they are in a group or even alone. Oliver, you had the perfect reaction. Even if the guy's gun was in the holster, we're not in a third world country so, talking with the cop is the best way to go, while complying to all his requests.
In this situation, where the cops were rushed, no negotiation were possible. If the cops wouldn't have shooted, chances are they would not be alive now or would have been seriously beaten. They did have something to worry about since other cops were beaten in the same area not long before.
30 years ago, the 6'4 cop jumping on a "black" without any provocation happened often but it wasn't making the news. Now, a cop only have to look at somebody sideways to have his ass kicked by political correctness.
IMHO, and other seems to agree, no matter who you are, if you decide to rush at anybody, it's not acceptable. If that person happen to be a cop, chances are you will get shot and it's too bad for you, you desserved it.
As of why the cops intercepted these guys, it's totally irrelevant. The proper response from these guys would have been to lodge a formal complaint for harrassement, not rushing the cops in a threathening manner as they did.
If we take into account the reason why these guys were intercepted, we might as well accept that peoples beat the hell of beggars who try to get cigarettes ! Why waste time asking the beggar to stop? After you beat him, he'll definetly stop! Of course, that's not acceptable.
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