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Doc Holliday

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He will have enough energy when he will come back in mtl,he do not play tonight.I think it is the beginning of the end for him.

It's about time they rest him. He's been playing way too many minutes for a second-year player. No wonder he's become a giveaway machine!

Beginning of the end for him? Aren't you being a bit too negative here? LOL!!!
 

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How about for the whole damn team? Put the habs in the "Q" (that means the QMJHL, rumps, or Quebec Major Junior Hockey League) and let the Roy* led Remparts play at the Bell Centre the rest of the season.

*(Patrick Roy) (he is the GM of the Remparts, rumps)

the beginning of the end for him or for the coach Rc,we will see soon.
 

Doc Holliday

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we will see after january if they will do playoff,the future dont seem so bright.

No kidding. Since Gauthier seems to be against making trades, i decided to look up the roster of the Hamilton Bulldogs in order to check which players could be called up in order to help the team. To my great surprise, i didn't recognize a single name on the roster other than Alex Henry's. What's happened to that once glorious legendary organization?
 

Doc Holliday

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I agree with you the glorious organisation has vanishe since the expulsion of Serge Savard.

I disagree. They had some good years under Gainey. They nearly made it to the Cup with Halak's great spring two years ago, and last year took Boston to a 7th game in overtime in the opening series. Geoff Molson even told the fans this summer that they had a team that would challenge for the Cup.

I'd say that the 'glorious organization' vanished with the departure of former George Gillette. He was a great owner for this team. My opinion of the new ownership is that it hasn't made very good moves since they took over. Getting rid of Pierre Boivin was a mistake. Same thing with Bob Gainey. Okay, he wasn't perfect, but he was far from worse than Pierre Gauthier, whom i've always considered to be a very lame NHL general manager. Geoff Molson made several misteps when dealing with the public. For details, take a look at the article by Damien Cox that i posted in the official hockey thread.

Next mistake? Don't be surprised if Molson doesn't fire Gauthier & bring back Bob Gainey next week or in the new year. What's next? Bring back Jaroslav Halak & Alex Kovalev?

p.s. Not re-signing Alex Kovalev two years ago was just like stabbing the loyal fans in the back. They also could have brought him back at the end of last season to help them out in the playoffs. He practically would have been given to them for nothing. However, Gauthier looked the other way. Of course, Jacques Martin probably didn't want Kovalev anyway.
 

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You are wright doc, you made a good point,every move they have done since the sale of club seems very bad,they did nt sign Bergeron,Moore,Halak and they keep instead Gomez, Gill.
 

Doc Holliday

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You are wright doc, you made a good point,every move they have done since the sale of club seems very bad,they did nt sign Bergeron,Moore,Halak and they keep instead Gomez, Gill.

a) Nobody wanted Bergeron until TB gave him a chance to play on their terrible blueline. The habs only picked him up as a temporary replacement for Markov on the PP. Let's face it: he's an absolute disaster defensively. A liability. Of course, the habs could have signed him next-to-nothing, but they also didn't know that Markov would be out for so long. Same thing with Campoli, who's just returned from being out for most of the season.

b) They could have re-signed Dominic Moore, but Moore was offered more money in TB. The habs also have dozens of Dominic Moores in their system. That's not the problem.

c) The habs had no choice but to trade Halak. They had to chose between the two goaltenders they had & Halak had arbitration rights while Price was still in the habs' control for another couple of seasons. Everyone knew Halak would hit the winfall by going to arbitration & he wound up signing a multiyear deal for just under $4 million per year. The habs needed that money to re-sign Markov & Plekanec. Price was also chosen 5th overall in the 2005 draft. You don't simply turn your back on such a high draft pick & then wind up getting haunted by him if you trade him. Halak was also several years older than Price & he had peaked. The habs also suspected that Halak's great year was possibly a one-year wonder. Guess what? They were correct. Halak isn't even the starting goalie in St-Louis. The habs or anyone else wouldn't have trouble trading for him if they wished & he wouldn't cost them much. Carey Price has been nothing short of magnificient since he was handed out the #1 job. The team would be battling it out with the Columbus Blue Jackets for the bottom of the cellar if were not for Carey Price's performance(s) this season. He's one of the rare habs players to show up for work every single game.

d) The habs have no choice but to hang on to Gomez. Nobody else wants him. You can't trade a player who scores under 10 goals per season when he's making just under $8 million per season until 2014. Trust me, if the habs could find any takers, they would have sent his Alaskan ass packing a long time ago. In other words, they're stuck with him.

e) The habs chose to re-sign Hal Gill for just over $2 million for one season. Say what you want, but paying him that among of $$ is reasonable & on a team that greatly lacks leadership, signing Gill was an easy one. Not re-signing Hamrlik was mistake. He wanted to remain in Mtl and would have taken less money to do so. However, we might not even be talking about this had Markov been healthy.
 

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You known in a interview yesterday a knee specialist said that it is impossible that markov can play hockey again with the same speed than before.He also said the knee will be very fragile,i can undestand why canadian gave him a contract for 3 years,i think that the canadian doctor gave to the club false advice to the Gm.
 

Doc Holliday

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You known in a interview yesterday a knee specialist said that it is impossible that markov can play hockey again with the same speed than before.He also said the knee will be very fragile,i can undestand why canadian gave him a contract for 3 years,i think that the canadian doctor gave to the club false advice to the Gm.

For every knee specialist that says Markov will never play again at the same speed, you'll have other knee specialists that say he'll be able to play again just like he used to.

Word is that Markov hurt himself again during the off-season after he had signed the contract. I do agree with you that it was ridiculous to give a big 3-year guaranteed contract to such a fragile player. However, he probably would have been signed by another team for a similar deal had not the habs given him what he wanted. It's a risk they took, and it might wind up biting them in the ass.

The good part is that if he's through & can't play again, his contract doesn't count on the cap. The problem right now is that the waiting game (on whether or not he'll play again) is tying up management's hands. And of course, they're currently capped out due to the Kaberle trade.
 
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