The best agency owners/bookers

[Doc Holliday]

I've dealt with John or Joe @Eleganza for years and not once have i ever encountered any rudeness from either of them. Of course, if you expect them to kiss your ass & cater to you when you're calling them, you might get that reaction. However, they've always been straight with me, stuck to the facts, answered my questions and were no-nonsense types whenever i called them. What more do you want?

As for Nadya VIP, i've only dealt with them once, and the agency was great with me. I did speak to them once, and it was with Carol. I found him very personable, funny, and got along very well with him. I've never met Nadya, but i doubt she's rude unless you've pissed her off or gave her a bad vibe. Of course, i've never spoken to her myself, so i can't vouch for this 100%. But i do know a few people who've dealt with her agency & not once have they ever said a bad word about either her or Carol.

And finally, i dealt with Tony of Angel Escorts a few times. Very nice & accomodating fellow....can't really say a bad word about him. The first girl i saw from the agency was an arab girl named Jasmine. Had a great time with her & it's too bad she left the business. I then saw Natalya though his agency & once again, can't complain. I should have taken her advice at the time & see her friend Jade, but i was feeling a bit under the weather at the time & chose to see Prada of Eleganza. Big mistake & i should have trusted Natalya's instincts. She really thought i would hit it off with her friend & insisted several times that i see her. But i'm stubborn. Oh well, live and learn.

 

[Parkyboy]

I've been doing in calls recently so I can comment on them. Mike from Goodgirls has been great, very easy to deal with, accommodating and honest. Carol for Nadya's is also great to deal with, Nadya on the other hand is impossible to deal with. if she was the one answering the phones I would never deal with them.

 

[Mod 10]

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Rumpleforeskiin is right.

Alyssa Roze, je vais garder ton post avant ta rencontre avec Mike4u uniquement puisqu'il est vrai que ton opinion n'est plus objective étant donné que tu planifie travailler avec lui.

M10

 

[Merlot]

I've been doing in calls recently so I can comment on them. Mike from Goodgirls has been great, very easy to deal with, accommodating and honest. Carol for Nadya's is also great to deal with, Nadya on the other hand is impossible to deal with. if she was the one answering the phones I would never deal with them.

Hello Parkyboy,

Yes, I have to add a condition to my previous statement. Though I'm not sure who the guy was a year ago when I met Kasandra, he was very easy to deal with even when I was annoyed with the previously set very close location being moved to a distant motel and I was briefly undecided about going there. The gentleman I spoke with stayed polite despite my reluctance to accept the change. If anyone reaches one of the men who handles calls I think the experience of calling Nadya's agency will be a good one.

However, when I spoke to Nadya herself, she was impatient and terse. After my modestly critical review was written I was harassed with messages. The agency is fine, Nadya is the only problem. To differentiate, John of Eleganza doesn't have a friendly one on one persona, but as others have said he can be dealt with. He has never made any situation much worst by pursuing them with insults behind the scenes. That puts John MILES ahead of "the lady"

I've also had only good experiences with Montrealxxstase, Satin Dreams, Asservissante, Devilish, Montreal Girls On Fire, Montreal Lust, French Kiss and others...along with the first agencies I mentioned, Angel Escorts and Montreal Sex City.

Though I have not met their ladies yet, the people at Good Girls and Montreal Angels have been polite and helpful in providing information.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[lgna69xxx]

Nadya has always been nothing short of polite and professional to me. She has a good sense of people. Never "heard" her sense of humor as per the "criteria" of the original post in this thread, but she has made me laugh several times in messages, both in her posts and pm's

Tony at Angels, and Jeff at Mtl Angels.... both also very polite and professional as well.

Cloudsurf, you should of made this a poll.

However, when I spoke to Nadya herself, she was impatient and terse. After my modestly critical review was written I was harassed with messages. The agency is fine, Nadya is the only problem.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[EagerBeaver]

I've dealt with John or Joe @Eleganza for years and not once have i ever encountered any rudeness from either of them. Of course, if you expect them to kiss your ass & cater to you when you're calling them, you might get that reaction. However, they've always been straight with me, stuck to the facts, answered my questions and were no-nonsense types whenever i called them. What more do you want?

I would agree with this. If you are looking for John Eleganza to smooch your ass and shmooze with you a bit, it ain't gonna happen. He is a "just the facts" kind of guy (think of the cop on the TV show Dragnet) and he has always been straight in dealing with me. While I do not consider John and Joe "rude" or "abrupt" I would say both are very business like. That may rub the wrong way those who feel that their asses need to be kissed, smooched, coddled and cuddled as a condition precedent to any business being done.

John does not suffer fools and has very publicly, on this board, outed and banned one longtime senior member from using his agency for perpetrating or attempting to perpetrate BBFS on his ladies (see the BBFS sticky thread, I am sure his post is still there). He also, on his own board, banned one young but long time Eleganza member for general prima donna behavior which was really just immaturity and an expectation that John would kiss his ass etc. And the truth is that member was kind of immature and should have seen that coming even though he was a many time repeat customer of the agency.

I gave my vote to the two Martins on telephonic demeanor mainly because they go above and beyond the call of duty in terms of communicating information to the client and keeping the client informed on what is going on. I am talking very specifically about THOSE TWO GUYS, the two Martins, and not their subordinates.

 

[cloudsurf]

Hey Beav what`s wrong with subordinates.
Tony from asservissante is just as helpfull as Martin and dealing with Franky and Steve from Delight is well...a delight.
I`d rather deal with Joe than John.
I`d also rather deal with Karol than Nadya`s.....although I must say that that Nadya has always been professional and friendly with me.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Hey Beav what`s wrong with subordinates..

I did not mean to imply that anything was wrong with the minions at those agencies. I just wanted to be clear I was talking about the top dogs at those two agencies. I have dealt with Steve and Tony before and never had any issues with them but my post was meant to compare the top dogs vs. other agency's top dogs.

I still think Gisele of FKS is the best of the top dogs as far as punctuality and alerting me to issues, but all communications with her are by text and email and I think your original post was more geared towards exploring the best at the telephonic method of communication.

 

[Merlot]

I would agree with this. If you are looking for John Eleganza to smooch your ass and shmooze with you a bit, it ain't gonna happen. He is a "just the facts" kind of guy (think of the cop on the TV show Dragnet) and he has always been straight in dealing with me. While I do not consider John and Joe "rude" or "abrupt" I would say both are very business like. That may rub the wrong way those who feel that their asses need to be kissed, smooched, coddled and cuddled as a condition precedent to any business being done.

Ahem,

You mean like someone who complains about the room, the wifi, the desk service, the cell connection, the news paper delivery, etc, not being PERFECT. I couldn't agree more.

According to your criteria on being "straight in dealing" I could not support John who told me personally on the phone multiple times he did not pre-book and I had to call at the start of the business day. At the time I took that answer more or less suspiciously. When other members wrote how they were pre-booked (not the same day) in their reviews by John ...well ...were the members fibbing. In fact two of my meetings through Eleganza were pre-booked.

Cheers bud,

Merlot

 

[EagerBeaver]

Merlot,

Not sure what you are talking about or what the situiation was, I don't think John always pre-books on one hour appointments but I know he does on multihour appointments. It probably depends on the situation and circumstances and who is booked that day and who isn't. He runs an agency at which more than a few times I was told I could not pre-book, because he was booked out. You have to call him early to get same day booking some time. I have also not gotten rubbed the wrong way when he told me I couldn't pre-book because I don't expect special treatment. I just move on down the list and don't get bent out of shape when this happens.

 

[Merlot]

Merlot,

I don't think John always pre-books on one hour appointments but I know he does on multihour appointments.

...more than a few times I was told I could not pre-book, because he was booked out. You have to call him early to get same day booking some time. I have also not gotten rubbed the wrong way when he told me I couldn't pre-book because I don't expect special treatment.

Dear EB,

Uh Huh, let me know when you get nominated for the Humble Trophy there Mr. Trump clone. :eyebrows:

In Montreal my preference was for 2 hours minimum since 2002 and until 2009 when I started asking for 90 minutes sometimes, and none of that has involved Eleganza since I no longer trusted them by then.

I had the same experience as you regarding being told to book at the start of the business day. Maybe that was a change in policy from a couple of pre-bookings with the agency previously. I always call agencies before the trips to check about pre-booking, so it was not a case of the same day. During 6 consecutive trips I was told to call at the start of business and in doing so every available preference of mine, involving 3-4 ladies each time, was booked for the entire week within 15 minutes of opening business according to John and his bookers. Yeah Right! Then reviewers started writing about their pre-booked meetings. They made a liar of him unless they were lying, and what could be the reason for that.

If John or any owner wants to have certain business models that make it hard for sometimes clients to book that's too bad for those who lose out including ME! Just tell it to me straight...that's all anyone deserves.

Now, I'd like to see you explain how not liking being LIED to is wanting special treatment. :lol:

:thumb:

Merlot

 

[Doc Holliday]

However, when I spoke to Nadya herself, she was impatient and terse. After my modestly critical review was written I was harassed with messages. The agency is fine, Nadya is the only problem.....That puts John MILES ahead of "the lady"

Well, maybe it's because "the lady" dislikes Boston Bruins fans. :lol:

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ahem,

You mean like someone who complains about the room, the wifi, the desk service, the cell connection, the news paper delivery, etc, not being PERFECT. I couldn't agree more.

Good one! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[box]

Personally, If i were to call up an agency & be treated rudely/abruptly by the booker;it would deter
me from using their services in the future.Just as if I were to walk into a store and received tersely
...I would not give them my business ever again. I don't expect a booker to ask me how my day
is going and inquire about my health but pretend to be polite/accomodating at least.

I guess Indy's would be the way to go....they cannot afford to be rude/dismissive towards their
potential clients.

 

[protagoras]

Yesterday evening I had the pleasure to deal with Luc (MSC) [Jessy was off yesterday).

He's a real gentleman. My favorite bookers/agency owners are Jessy (MSC) and Peter (SD)

 

[montreal_monk01]

The best agencies, for me, are those who have managed, throughout the years, to avoid silly amateurish practices such as keeping the best ladies for some, the rest to others, or overwhelming their customers with restrictions pertaining to medieval times. To me, the top of the crop are those who have spent more time reaching out to my pleasure (the only reason I need to pay for) rather than offering issues to sort out : Chloe's playground, Satin Dreams, XXXtase/Delight Escorts, Devilish/Girls on Fire, Nadia Vips, Mile4U's Good girls, Montreal Sex City. In my experience (yours may differ, naturally) those remain the very best ever. They have that amazing rare ability to know how to do things way better than others. Some of them even managing to find, at times, stunning ladies I would have never thought to find at the great value prices they charge.

 

[Numerati]

Maxine and the current folks running MGF.
Peter of Satin Dreamz.
Jessy of MSC.
Billy of Candyshop/MTLGFE.
Adrianna Deville's assistant.
Giselle of FKS. Or whomever was answering the e-mails.
Veronica Avluv's assistant.
Folks at Cupid's in Toronto.
Chris at Devilish. My interactions with him were limited but he always delivered when I wanted to see Chloe Milan when she worked for him. This was in 2008/2009.

 

[Rex Kramer]

I always call agencies before the trips to check about pre-booking, so it was not a case of the same day. During 6 consecutive trips I was told to call at the start of business and in doing so every available preference of mine, involving 3-4 ladies each time, was booked for the entire week within 15 minutes of opening business according to John and his bookers. Yeah Right! Then reviewers started writing about their pre-booked meetings. They made a liar of him unless they were lying, and what could be the reason for that.

.....John who told me personally on the phone multiple times he did not pre-book and I had to call at the start of the business day. At the time I took that answer more or less suspiciously. When other members wrote how they were pre-booked (not the same day) in their reviews by John ...well ...were the members fibbing. In fact two of my meetings through Eleganza were pre-booked.

Merlot,

Not sure what you are talking about or what the situiation was, ....... I have also not gotten rubbed the wrong way when he told me I couldn't pre-book because I don't expect special treatment. I just move on down the list and don't get bent out of shape when this happens.

Merlot,

I also am not sure what you are talking about or what the situation was. As far as I can remember, over the years Eleganza does pre-book for hour or multi hour appts for the current week, but only after the schedule comes out in early afternoon on Monday.

If you were asking for pre-bookings before the schedule for the week came out, it would not surprise me a bit that your wish did not come true. If someone like EB could not pre-book outside of the Eleganza pre-booking policy, I would be very surprised if you could.

Sounded like your pre-bookings, or attempted pre-bookings, were before 2009. Back in 2007/2008 some of the most popular Eleganza ladies would be fully booked for the week within minutes after the schedule came out on Monday. So if you were looking for pre-bookings with the Emely's, Karyna's, etc, your were not the only one who were disappointed.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Lately i dealt 2 times with Mike of GoodGirls, and he was excellent. He even recognized me the second time even if we only spoke once the first time i saw one of his girls. I use text message since not long ago, i never tough about it before and was never offered either, but Mike offered this to me and it worked so well. Confirmed when i was leaving to mtl, confirmed the room number, one time there was a LITTLE delay and Mike texted me to tell it. He was also not just good in a business term, he was very friendly and this i can say, is something that make you feel comfortable in term of calling an agency. Now for the info... i dont own yet(but plan to change it soon) a cell... so thats why the text message thing.... never tought about it before, i borrow the one of a family member for montreal trip. Im not the texting style usually... but for confirming booking...so great.

Then as for the other, honestly i can't say i had a "bad" booker yet, overall i can say Billy when he was in charge of Angel escort was very accomodating and friendly, i dealth multiple time with Tony since then and he is very polite and customer friendly. I remember Valerie of WOP was pretty good back then too, friendly and even tough i admit at first it made me unconfortable a bit to talk about services like CIM and such to a women on the phone... she always try to make me the most confortable possible. Too bad her new agency didn't last long after WOP...

Called one time delight for a "on the moment" booking, i had already a girl reserved for later with Mike GG, and i was planning on looking who would be avalaible for my second encounter in mtl that day, happened the one i wanted to meet the most(just after the original booking) was there, i called, and it was smooth, very simple yet effective.

For working with clients in the public myself, i can say customer service is a HUGE part of a business... If you threat your clients well, and are very polite and friendly, they will come back cause they will remember it. You can see first hand wich people you need to be very polite and say "vous" and the ones that prefer if you talk to them in a friendly accomodating but yet polite way.

Personally either the friendly(tu, toi etc) way or the polite "monsieur, vous" way works fine with me, and i will go with the flood in my way of talking. The only thing important is to remain polite and interested, as they are talking to customers.

One little more thing, a good phone is important. i mean i had times where i had a bit of trouble understanding the booker, i can understand if the person is a native english speaker(i always book in french, to be sure to not make any mistake and well im a native french so well) that its not there fault, but sometimes there noises in the background, or the phone/blue tooth device they use is not the best, and damn it make it really hard. Your phone is what a hockey stick is to a hockey player... lol, gotta be of good quality.

Edit : Oh yeah i forgot... well i had maybe one not that great booking experience. It was not that the booker was not polite, more like i didn't really like the way the business was done. Don't know wich person it was but it was with Girls on Fire. I asked to do a pre-booking, even a day in advance and was declined that possibility, i would need to choose 5 girls on the roster of both there agencies and they would book me the one that would be avalaible that day in number orders... That was a huge problem for me, as im very selective and usually have a TDL of only 6-7 girls for ALL agencies. Services are also very important for me, and with GOF only way to know them(and it wasn't 100% sure) was reviews... so it was hard to choose 5 girls... I declined that offer and days passed, and eventually i manage to book Chloe(Milan... back then at GOF) on a 11 or midnight shift if i remember correctly. I was offered either 11 or 1 am if my memory is good. So well i said ok 11 im coming, im taking the city bus right away, and then the bus from sherb to mtl in 40 min... Would arrive around 8 or so in mtl... Did that and confirmed the room. Now its over 3 years ago so all details a not fresh but i remember there was a 30 min delay that was said to me on phone... Ok i guess... but then 30 min after the original 30 min delay she was not here.... i was pretty sure my night was screwed and i lost my cash.... as late like that, no way i could book another girl. But i called and he said she WOULD come soon... ok... wait another 15 min or so... call back and when i have him on the phone... i see the car stop and she get out... thanks to view on the street by the window.... FINALLY, after all this wait, i was gonna see metallica the day after, so i booked the room that night ONLY for the escort, didn't want to lost it. But she was there, and service was excellent on her part.

But damn... over 1:30h delay if not more... that was too much. And i called GOF/devilish again after that, 2 time if my memory is right, one time i was already in mtl, took a guest with one girl, she was late but only 20 min or so... not too bad, the other time i could not see the girl, she didn't want to come to the hotel, again i was in mtl already, i was staying at my friend place for the week... so it was easy to book by the day schedule. But well i didn't knew st-hubert hotels where a hit and miss yet... so i learned it the hard way(2 didn't want to come, and 4 did come there) so on 3 bookings, one was smooth, one was hard but turned well... and the other took a dive...

Since then i haven't called them again, mostly because with the lot of agencies these days listing services and the arrival of very good new agencies, i don't need to. Back then there was not as much agencies, and most where not listing services(satin dream was one of the few actually, ironically they dont list it as precisively these days) but with time agencies adapted, xxxtase started listing services for the girls offering them, the little sister agency delight also list everything. Angel\chloe's playground(can't remember the new name at the moment) does, GoodGirls does.. and if once Chris had one of the best roster... these days other agencies have nothing to envy to him in my opinion. For exemple Mike GG have a pretty strong roster with a lot of different type of girl, too bad he lost some good parts lately tough( Kelly Summer, Leticya(???) among them) he still has very great looking girls and also a great number.

I don't understand why Chris dosen't get with the flow... in a period of time with so much agencies, so much listing services, HOW MUCH the extra will cost if they are offered etc... What was once the mighty ship of escorting seem these days to be sadly sinking... No more 8 girls per night listed PER agencies... and even tough there a few girls listed as PSE... (very few) PSE is still not that specific... can be cim, cof or greek, or all 3, can be a matter of attitude also(the experience)

Anyway sorry i just realize i made a freaking brick, got to stop eventually lol. And i don't want this to look like a bash on Chris, its just a PERSONAL opinion on how I FEEL. There still ladies i would like to see that are with them... but lack of pre-booking option(never i see a pre book for tomorow list on merb) no service listed etc is really a killer for me.... I guess he still make good money with the montreal "on the moment" clients and his name being very well known trough the years give him a strong reputation. So good for him.