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The best or worst coach, GM change ?

Doc Holliday

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Worse coaching change.....

Randy Carlyle replaced by Peter Horachek.

Carlyle's stock rose dramatically since then. Several teams are considering hiring him as their next coach. Many believe he'd be a great fit coaching his former team, the Pittsburgh Penguins. But i believe he may end up coaching the SJ Sharks.

As for Horachek, replacing Carlyle likely meant the end of his NHL coaching career.
 

Doc Holliday

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Worse coach/GM change......

Nothing comes close to the time the habs cleaned out and replaced Jacques Demers with Mario Tremblay & then GM Serge Savard with Rejean Houle.

These two moves which occured on the same day wound up taking the franchise back five years. It was one of the most disastrous management moves in memory.

Both of the new hirees had no experience in their new jobs. Tremblay was a hockey color man at the time, while Houle worked for Molson Breweries in a management capacity.

They were both fired less than two years later, once hall-of-fame goalie Patrick was chased out of Montreal and had already won a Cup with Colorado.
 

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Leafs hiring Cliff Fletcher as GM & Pat Burns as coach

These two soon turned the long-time abysmal Leafs into Stanley Cup contenders & it took a controversial Kelly Fraser call in overtime (game 6) vs. LA Kings to prevent a Leafs/Habs Stanley Cup final showdown, which would have been historic.

The Leafs continued to be contenders for a decade, even after Fletcher & Burns were fired & replaced by the likes of Ken Dryden & Pat Quinn. A big reason for this success as the acquistion of future hall-of-famer Mats Sundin, who became one of the league's elite over the next decade. They didn't give up much in the oft-injured Wendel Clark, who remains a fan favorite. But he was constantly out with back problems & wasn't the player he once was. It was a brilliant trade by the Leafs & a terrible one by the Quebec Nordiques.

But it was the hiring of Fletcher & Burns that turned the team's fortunes for the next decade.
 

Doc Holliday

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Marc Bergevin for the Habs

The jury is still out on Bergevin. Way too early. He was lucky to get Vanek at the trade deadline last season (he was only able to get him because the Leafs couldn't stay under the cap) and for me, an outsider, he hasn't done much since other than to sign PK Subban to that ridiculous $72 million contract. A prominent member of the habs media said the other day that he's convinced Subban won't finish his career with the habs just because of that ridiculously high contract.

And if you ask me, Bergevin dropped the ball at the trade deadline. Getting Petrie from Edmonton was a good move since he didn't give up much, but the trades with Anaheim and Buffalo didn't do much to help the team if you ask me. All it did was trade a very skilled young Russian for a fatter PK lookalike and with the Buffalo trade, get a couple of 3rd/4th liners which forced their best faceoff man (Manny Malhotra) to the pressbox.

Bergevin failed to address the team's needs at the deadlnie....a top center, a top forward and a dependable backup goalie. TOTAL FAILURE!!
 

Ballsamic

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The jury is still out on Bergevin. Way too early. He was lucky to get Vanek at the trade deadline last season (he was only able to get him because the Leafs couldn't stay under the cap) and for me, an outsider, he hasn't done much since other than to sign PK Subban to that ridiculous $72 million contract. A prominent member of the habs media said the other day that he's convinced Subban won't finish his career with the habs just because of that ridiculously high contract.

And if you ask me, Bergevin dropped the ball at the trade deadline. Getting Petrie from Edmonton was a good move since he didn't give up much, but the trades with Anaheim and Buffalo didn't do much to help the team if you ask me. All it did was trade a very skilled young Russian for a fatter PK lookalike and with the Buffalo trade, get a couple of 3rd/4th liners which forced their best faceoff man (Manny Malhotra) to the pressbox.

Bergevin failed to address the team's needs at the deadlnie....a top center, a top forward and a dependable backup goalie. TOTAL FAILURE!!

It is obvious that these are your view on Bergevin and not someone who has knowledge of hockey and most

especially the Montreal Canadiens. I know it is confusing to you this year as to what determines success and what determines failure.

You see success in failure i.e. drafting#4.

From what I last heard, Suppan is nominated for the Norris and he wins or looses, he is considered the top 3 defence man in the league

whether you or I agree.

There was one game in the Ottawa series where Flynn and Mitchell won the game for the Habs.

P.S. Didn't quite understand your comment in a fatter PK lookalike. Smith-Pelly is a forward.

Booker is correct in my view:thumb:
 
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