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I don't understand people in the transportation that rush and fight to get a seat to just go down at the next station ...
Me, I literally don't understand people who loudly speak a foreign language over the phone while on the bus. Every. Single. Day. It's rarely loudly in French or English, by the way. Draw your own conclusions.
 
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Me, I literally don't understand people who loudly speak a foreign language over the phone while on the bus. Every. Single. Day. It's rarely loudly in French or English, by the way. Draw your own conclusions.
Usually, they use their free WhatsApp service to speak with the entire family overseas.

When that happens, I take my cell phone out and start blasting Slayer on 10. It usually forces them to move elsewhere.
 

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Me, I literally don't understand people who loudly speak a foreign language over the phone while on the bus. Every. Single. Day. It's rarely loudly in French or English, by the way. Draw your own conclusions.
There's two aspects to this IMHO.

1. In a foreign language they feel they don't have to be discrete as they assume no one or very few will understand anything.

2. Unfortunately some of these people come from areas of the world that are just louder in general like india or certain Arabic countries where our loud is their normal.

But it is annoying nonetheless. Thanks goodness for noise canceling headphones .
 
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There's two aspects to this IMHO.

1. In a foreign language they feel they don't have to be discrete as they assume no one or very few will understand anything.

2. Unfortunately some of these people come from areas of the world that are just louder in general like india or certain Arabic countries where our loud is their normal.

But it is annoying nonetheless. Thanks goodness for noise canceling headphones .
It is a cultural thing, just like you hear some of the SPs bitching about certain clients and the ill-mannered way in which they are treated by them.
 
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Me, I literally don't understand people who loudly speak a foreign language over the phone while on the bus. Every. Single. Day. It's rarely loudly in French or English, by the way. Draw your own conclusions.

Do you have the same problem with people who speak loudly on the phone on the bus in english or french? I notice people usually don't have problem with that.
 

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Do you have the same problem with people who speak loudly on the phone on the bus in english or french? I notice people usually don't have problem with that.
Like I said in the post you quoted, it rarely happens. When it happens, it does bother me. I have been taking public transit daily for the past ten years. Only in recent years has the STM had to have a public awareness campaign (billboards, audio messages) on good manners on the transit system. Something must have happened to explain this increase in uncivil behaviour.
 

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It's the internet and covid. Covid really did a number on some people's social skills and the internet rewards people for being assholes. People are caring less about the people immediately around them and more about how much engagement their ragebait post is getting and how many followers they have.

As Mike Tyson once said "Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it".
 

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My phone has decided that it won't let me say "Hi" anymore. Every time I type "Hi" it autocorrects to "Hilton".
Seriously? Who came up with that brilliant idea? Clearly it was Hilton. :mad:
So if I answer your text with "Hiiiiiiiiii!" it's because it's the easiest way to make it not autocorrect.
I always remove that auto-correct. I find it so annoying.
 

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Like I said in the post you quoted, it rarely happens. When it happens, it does bother me. I have been taking public transit daily for the past ten years. Only in recent years has the STM had to have a public awareness campaign (billboards, audio messages) on good manners on the transit system. Something must have happened to explain this increase in uncivil behaviour.
Happens pretty frequently when I’m on the bus.

Sounds like you just don’t notice them because they’re not the ones you “draw conclusions” about
 

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Happens pretty frequently when I’m on the bus.

Sounds like you just don’t notice them because they’re not the ones you “draw conclusions” about
When I used to live in Toronto it was usually the Chinese from China (Not Canadian born Chinese) that were yelling in Cantonese/Mandarin from one end of the but to the other. Maybe it is the norm in their country to speak out lout like that.
 

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It's the internet and covid. Covid really did a number on some people's social skills and the internet rewards people for being assholes. People are caring less about the people immediately around them [...]
I'm also starting to realize that it's worse in some areas of the city than others, and that a change of neighbourhood might resolve some of my frustrations.
 
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I’m going to change the topic quite a bit. There are some amazing Indy SPs and love seeing them multiples times. However, do we feel like some of them are just not worth it at their price point? Whether it’s their looks, how they prepared for the date, personality or the services they provide,…

I suppose when I am having a 2 - 4 hour date with an Indy, and provide drinks and food, I have certain expectation as to how they should dress and prepare for the date? I don’t know if anyone else had this kind of experiences or if I had some just bad experiences as of late,…
 

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I’m going to change the topic quite a bit. There are some amazing Indy SPs and love seeing them multiples times. However, do we feel like some of them are just not worth it at their price point? Whether it’s their looks, how they prepared for the date, personality or the services they provide,…

I suppose when I am having a 2 - 4 hour date with an Indy, and provide drinks and food, I have certain expectation as to how they should dress and prepare for the date? I don’t know if anyone else had this kind of experiences or if I had some just bad experiences as of late,…
I can't say I've ever disappointed with the way they dress but I don't really have any hard expectations; they've all looked stunning, if sometimes a little revealing (but we like that).

Good news is that you get to decide the price point you're comfortable with. If there are some you don't think are worth it, see others, super simple.
 

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I’m going to change the topic quite a bit. There are some amazing Indy SPs and love seeing them multiples times. However, do we feel like some of them are just not worth it at their price point? Whether it’s their looks, how they prepared for the date, personality or the services they provide,…

I suppose when I am having a 2 - 4 hour date with an Indy, and provide drinks and food, I have certain expectation as to how they should dress and prepare for the date? I don’t know if anyone else had this kind of experiences or if I had some just bad experiences as of late,…
I agree with @twenty4seven .. if you don't like the rate, just don't book the provider. It's that simple.

I also want to say that no matter the price point, this is an experience that involves 2 people. All clients have different expectations, you let the provider know what yours are, and you'll find out if you're compatible with her or not. Everyone has different preferences, a lot of men want us to dress in a casual way or not too sexy. If you want her to have a certain look, just let her know. Ask questions about the service before booking, and be clear about your expectations.
 

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I’m going to change the topic quite a bit. There are some amazing Indy SPs and love seeing them multiples times. However, do we feel like some of them are just not worth it at their price point? Whether it’s their looks, how they prepared for the date, personality or the services they provide,…

I suppose when I am having a 2 - 4 hour date with an Indy, and provide drinks and food, I have certain expectation as to how they should dress and prepare for the date? I don’t know if anyone else had this kind of experiences or if I had some just bad experiences as of late,…

What do you mean by “dress for the date”. Do they need to put high heels, do their hair and makeup if you’re booking 2 hours in private?

Obviously I’ll always fix myself but I won’t do as much as when I’m going in a public place

If I really want to dress in sweatpants, I’ll make sure the lingerie underneath is hot or I’ll ask before if the person minds
 

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I agree with @twenty4seven .. if you don't like the rate, just don't book the provider. It's that simple.

I also want to say that no matter the price point, this is an experience that involves 2 people. All clients have different expectations, you let the provider know what yours are, and you'll find out if you're compatible with her or not. Everyone has different preferences, a lot of men want us to dress in a casual way or not too sexy. If you want her to have a certain look, just let her know. Ask questions about the service before booking, and be clear about your expectations.
All valid points. And yes I agree. I don’t repeat with someone that I obviously didn’t get along with. If the price matches what they bring to the table, I don’t have any problem. I guess it’s hard to me to venture out with a new SP, when I know for spending a day with a previously known SP have been great.

I guess what I’m trying to say is for Indy rate of $300 - $1000/hour, it’s hard to assume that just because they are more expensive, the experience would be better.
 

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What do you mean by “dress for the date”. Do they need to put high heels, do their hair and makeup if you’re booking 2 hours in private?

Obviously I’ll always fix myself but I won’t do as much as when I’m going in a public place

If I really want to dress in sweatpants, I’ll make sure the lingerie underneath is hot or I’ll ask before if the person minds
I suppose if I’m paying 2 hours incall date for the triple the cost of agency girls, I would hope that they are dress to impress? (At least look like their advertisements) Perhaps that’s not the expectation I should have. And that’s okay if that’s the norm.
 

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All valid points. And yes I agree. I don’t repeat with someone that I obviously didn’t get along with. If the price matches what they bring to the table, I don’t have any problem. I guess it’s hard to me to venture out with a new SP, when I know for spending a day with a previously known SP have been great.

I guess what I’m trying to say is for Indy rate of $300 - $1000/hour, it’s hard to assume that just because they are more expensive, the experience would be better.
People choose their rates depending on several factors.. one of them is the type of client they want to have, another is how many clients they want to have.. I am really trying to weigh my words here. The subject of rates comes up all the time, just do some research on the forum and you'll find multiple threads about this. If you want the person to dress to impress, just tell her.

At the end of the day, if you don't think indies are worth paying for, then don't book us. It's that simple. A lot of people have told me they prefer booking indies because it feels more personal and intimate, and they are satisfied with that. Maybe you are expecting something else from this experience. From your post, it's unclear aside from you wanting her to ''dress to impress''