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The Carney Liberals - Trudeau 2.0

Assisto

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The thing is the biggest supporters of the Liberals are the home owners the ones who already own a home and are well off or recent arrivals that get so much social benefits. The Liberals benefit them. Affordability is not an issue for them, it is the average joe working a job who rents that suffers and so do single people who have no kids. Liberals policies favor the wealthy. The GTA is so over populated that there are so many seats up for grabs there. Basically Ontario and Quebec decides the election results.
L'immigration de masse ne serait-telle pas un peu responsable du perpétuel vote libéral ?
 
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CLOUD 500

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I have not posted much on this and Carney but here it is. The Liberals are on the verge of getting a majority, not by elections but by backroom sneaky deals (floor crossers). They have 171 seats now and need one more to get the majority. The latest MP to cross the floor is Marilyn Gladu. We cannot prove it but anyone with any brains will understand that Carney bribed these MPs to cross the floor. They will not admit it. Never has this been seen in Canadian politics and is the biggest sabotage to democracy. The constituents voted for a party, they did not vote for a different party then their MP decided to cross parties. In my book whenever a MP wants to change parties that should trigger an automatic byelection giving their constituents the opportunity to decide if they want their MP to change parties. This is disgusting and Canadians are not bothered by this. For the first time in Canadian history your vote did not matter, Carney will not get a majority because he was given this privilege by the voters but by floor crossers and backroom deals. This is incredibly disturbing and disgusting. This is not fair or respectful to the voting system of Canada and the voters.
 

Cheecho98

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At this point, I would welcome a civil war. Not out of chaos, but out of principle. When one side believes it is acceptable to seize power by bribing MPs, crossing the floor, and outright betraying the people who elected them, it has already abandoned any claim to democratic legitimacy. You cannot hollow out democracy from within and still pretend to stand for it. If power is taken through corruption and disregard for the public will, then it should surprise no one when power is challenged through means just as undemocratic. Once the rules are broken, the moral high ground disappears with them.
 

CLOUD 500

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As predicted Carney got his majority, not by an election but by backroom deals and bribes via floor crossing. Never in the history of Canada we had that much floor crossings in a short period of time. Those MPs did what was best for them, not for the party or the country. Carney will continue Trudeau's agenda by continuing big deficits and will likely open the floodgates to mass immigration. Remember he got a garbage like Mark Wiseman in his cabinet who is one of the founders of the Century Initiative that wants 100 million people by 2100. The lobby group is a corporate lobby group for the rich. We will see the biggest gap between rich and poor the likes we never seen only seen in third world countries. Housing will become something for the rich and homelessness will explode to new highs. This is what people in Eastern Canada wants since they got tunnel vision and see only one thing, Trump and how they do not want to be like the US and hate Trump. To be followed, another four years of driving Canada deeper in the hole that it was already under by Trudeau.
 

Cheecho98

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Canada is fucked and Liberal voters will regret everything soon enough. The amount of bullshit legislation they are about to pass is going to be insane. Prepare for double-digit unemployment rates, double-digit inflation, the end of hobbying of any kind, and the end of any freedoms we had. The only thing that will start is more taxation, more censorship, and more propaganda.
 

Mandouke

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Welcome to the post-national state that Trudeau often referred to. Carney is here to deliver on that promise.

While Trudeau was an arrogant, self-centred, egocentric asshole, who accomplished very little to nothing, Carney is not and is much more capable and dangerous and unfortunately will deliver.

I wonder whether the Liberal establishment and Laurentian elites truly understand what Carney represents and what he will achieve during his tenure.
 

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Welcome to the post-national state that Trudeau often referred to. Carney is here to deliver on that promise.
Post national state is an example of oxymoronic expression. Nationality in the modern western world is defined by the citizenship, i.e. belonging to a certain state. Post national state expands the principle of belonging to almost anybody. So, it is not fare that only so-called Canadian citizens pay federal taxes. All prospective newcomers should start paying them too or federal taxes need to be abolished altogether in all territory used to be called Canada.
 

crinolynne

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Canada is fucked and Liberal voters will regret everything soon enough. The amount of bullshit legislation they are about to pass is going to be insane. Prepare for double-digit unemployment rates, double-digit inflation, the end of hobbying of any kind, and the end of any freedoms we had. The only thing that will start is more taxation, more censorship, and more propaganda.
Classic Trump/Orban bollocks. Take a pill, have a beer.
 

CLOUD 500

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Post national state is an example of oxymoronic expression. Nationality in the modern western world is defined by the citizenship, i.e. belonging to a certain state. Post national state expands the principle of belonging to almost anybody. So, it is not fare that only so-called Canadian citizens pay federal taxes. All prospective newcomers should start paying them too or federal taxes need to be abolished altogether in all territory used to be called Canada.
Post-national state is another way to say open borders, multicultarism and globalism. Trudeau was a far-left wacko and wanted open borders and transferring powers of the country to the UN (another far-left wacko organization).