The Frank29 Memorial ® Buffalo Bills Suck Thread for 2008/2009 Season
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WoodyWoody said:
Now it looks like the Bills have a very good chance of taking two! Go-Go Buffalo!!!!
Star-Man said:
Where do you see the Bills finishing now? I think first place has now become a real possibility!
Doc Holliday said:Where do you see the Bills finishing now? I think first place has now become a real possibility!
Yeah Doc,
Currently the Patriots have a hell of a team with a lot of weapons including two healthy very tough running backs. Even an average quarterback is going to keep this team very dangerous. But, we all understand your enthusiasm generated by long, looooong unrequited "championship" hunger.
Cheers,
Korbel
Hey BD,beautydigger said:
Here we go. All balls now that Brady is gone. Bwahahahaha.
LOL,
Korbie
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Doc Holliday said:Where do you see the Bills finishing now? I think first place has now become a real possibility!
I think so too!!
Got a big bet riding on it with a female friend who's a die hard pats fan
beautydigger said:If you hadn’t noticed, I was unable to post.
Hello Beautydigger,
I have no doubt you would have said your team will win it all. It seems everyone is picking "their team" regardless of reality. That's what being a fan is. But the Jets, they did not look very good against what was once of the worst teams ever last year. That doesn't bode well even if Miami is improved. Favre had a much better team last year and couldn't do it, so how does it happen this year?????
THANKS for acknowledging the Patriots "DYNASTY"
. Cheers,
Korbie
Well, Favre would not have come to the Jets if he didn’t know the offensive line was greatly improved and one of the best in the league. The Jets never had the threat of the long pass with Pennington, so now you will see the running game become much better because the opponents D will not be cheating up. Also, the Jets receivers, who have been under-rated will also come into their greatness. And the thread made reference to division winners, not all the way (you know how things get off target). But I am sure gonna have a good time this Sunday watching the Jets (the new dynasty) destroy the old dynasty!!! Oh, and btw, isn’t Favre French? I might even pop a bottle of good champagne.Korbel said:Hello Beautydigger,
I have no doubt you would have said your team will win it all. It seems everyone is picking "their team" regardless of reality. That's what being a fan is. But the Jets, they did not look very good against what was once of the worst teams ever last year. That doesn't bode well even if Miami is improved. Favre had a much better team last year and couldn't do it, so how does it happen this year?????
THANKS for acknowledging the Patriots "DYNASTY"
Cheers,
Korbie
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Hello Joe.t,
So you are a Bills fan? Since when? Doc stood up for his team last year, but where were you? How did I miss this? Oh yeah, you adopted the Giants when the Bills went bust.
Is this the same Asante Samuel who failed to hold onto an interception in the last second's that would have sealed the Patriots victory. Yeah, he sure made the big play when needed huh.
Cheers,
Korbel
Joe.t said:
So you are a Bills fan? Since when? Doc stood up for his team last year, but where were you? How did I miss this? Oh yeah, you adopted the Giants when the Bills went bust.
Joe.t said:
Is this the same Asante Samuel who failed to hold onto an interception in the last second's that would have sealed the Patriots victory. Yeah, he sure made the big play when needed huh.
Cheers,
Korbel
Hello BD,beautydigger said:
It's no doubt the Jets are improved, at least on paper. You sure can't see it in the stats for last Sunday against Miami. With Favre they beat the worst team in football last year by 6 stinking points, and had to hold off the Dolphins...YIKES!
Don't think Cassel is a bad quarterback. Belichick would never keep a guy around for 4 years who couldn't do a decent job. The way he gets rid of players who can't contribute, Cassel must have something just to stay. In my view the Jets will need everything they've got to win, even with Cassel running the offense. The Patriots defense is great, the offensive line is very solid, both running back are healthy and very good, and the receiving corps is top notch. The only weakness is the young secondary. As for Cassel, he has been around for 4 years and knows the system very well. He may lack the level of skills Brady has, but who has them...few indeed.
And, here is the biggest thing. Cassel has never been in a game that counts, with the entire first team backing him, where he has been allowed to use all of the tools at his disposal. He has only seen preseason games, or games that were in the bag where he was told to run the ball and not make turnovers. If the Kansas City game is any indication, doing fairly well under the most unexpected and difficult circumstances indicates at least competence. Now he has the chance of a lifetime to make his name in the glare of the football world. Yes, the pressure will be high. But he has been around for 4 years and must have some level of comfort and confidence we have probably underestimated.
It has also been postulated by a few that the team may even play better. Some say that without the comfort and possible complacency of having the great Brady at the helm the team may actually be more motivated to give every effort. That is an interesting theory. I always thought the main thing wrong with the Patriots last year was too many players with too many rings and not enough drive and hunger such as that the Giants had. In such a perfect season with such great veteran players how could they not have some sort of complacency in the back of their mind. Well, now they have to work harder without Brady and that may be a good thing.
Cheers,
Korbie
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Hey BD,beautydigger said:
According the the New York Times "The Patriots might have been interested in Simms and Rattay as backups even before Brady was hurt, but Belichick gave no reason for the decision not to look at them once Brady went down." Radio WEEI said Belichick did interview Simms again after the injury, but rejected him again. So, at best he couldn't make the team even as a backup for Cassel. So what.
Look at Favre. Favre didn't look that good against Miami, last years worst team in the entire league ...15/22 194 yards 2 TDs. Is decent against Miami a good thing????? It seems to show either Favre isn't good enough to handle Miami well or the team has numerous issues.
C'mon,
Korbie
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Hey BD,beautydigger said:
Spy Gate huh. So did you miss the part where the Jets did the same thing.
LOL,
Korbie
beautydigger said:
Here BD,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spygate
Accusations against the Jets
Accusations of Jets also illegally videotaping the Patriots in their January 2007 playoff match-up arose following the incident. Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum called the accusations "completely false" in September 2007.[27] In the week before the teams` December 16, 2007 game, Newsday reported the Jets were found videotaping from the mezzanine level of Gillette Stadium and asked to leave by Patriots security.[28] The Jets later claimed they had been granted permission by the Patriots to film in the game, while Belichick denied permission was ever given.[29]
Oh well...so they claimed they "had permission". Yeah, that makes it all okay huh...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
http://wbztv.com/patriots/New.England.Patriots.2.609434.html
Mangini Admits Jets Taped Patriots Last Season
NEW YORK (WBZ) ― Its not quite 007 James Bond versus Goldfinger, but this weekend`s Patriots Jets game could be a different type of spy vs. spy.
New York Newsday is reporting that the Jets were caught spying & videotaping the Patriots last season.
The newspaper, sighting " league sources familiar with the situation", says the Jets were caught using taping during a game in Foxborough last season. Here`s the difference though: The Patriots apparently didn`t report it to the NFL and instead just had the offending employee removed.
According to the article, after Gillette Stadium officials saw the Jets employee using the video recorder early in the game, he was told to stop and to leave the area. He had been filming from the mezzanine level between the scoreboard and a decorative lighthouse in an end zone. The camera was not confiscated by the Patriots or stadium security.
The Newsday report says the Jets admit they did it, but claim they had permission to do so. Tuesday night the Jets admitted that they did videotape the game and their employee was confronted, but said they had permission from the Patriots to film from that location.
"All filming at last year`s Patriots game was done with pre-approval from the Patriots and in accordance with NFL rules," Jets` Senior Director of Media Relations, Bruce Speight told the paper.
On Wednesday Jets coach Eric Mangini said his team received permission to film behind both end zones during the playoff game in January.
"We taped the game, is what we taped, and we taped end-zone copy of the game, and we tape a double end zone, which is standard operating procedure for us," Mangini said.
"We request that every single road game, and it`s usually granted if physically it`s possible. And when people request it from us, we do the same thing: We grant it."
Mangini maintained the Jets did nothing wrong, and had filmed at New England during the regular season without incident. It was nothing like what the Patriots did earlier this season, when a New England employee was caught taping New York`s defensive signals and the team was punished by the league.
"We do it every time we go on the road," Mangini repeated. "We ask for permission to do it. It`s within the league rules, and when people ask us to do it, we grant it, as well."
Just one problem, if that`s true them why did the Pats have the cameraman booted?
When asked why the Patriots stopped the Jets if they had already given them permission, Mangini just shrugged.
"I don`t know," he said. "Really, it just was what it was. We had asked for permission, it was granted and then that changed, and we respect their decision. It`s their stadium."
Mangini was also asked if the Jets were, at all, taping the Patriots` defensive signals. "No," Mangini said smugly.
He was then asked if the Patriots requested similar permission to have someone taping at various angles or end-zone angles. Again, Mangini replied simply: "No."
So far the Patriots have declined to comment on the report, instead saying they`re focusing on the present and this weekend`s game, and not the past.
New England coach Bill Belichick refused to address the situation during his news conference with Patriots reporters. "There`s a lot of things that have happened in the past," Belichick said. "Really, the past is in the past."
"It just doesn`t matter. Who cares?" safety Rodney Harrison said when asked about the situation by reporters. "It has no impact whatsoever, just like when Smith made his comments. It has no impact. The game isn`t won or lost through the media Monday through Saturday. It`s won or lost on Sunday, 1 o`clock. It`s whoever makes more plays."
The Jets played at Gillette Stadium twice last season, once during the regular season and once during the playoffs. According to the report, there`s some disagreement over which game the incident happened at.
One source familiar with the Patriots` situation told Newsday the filming occurred in the regular-season game; while a source close to the Jets` situation told the paper it was the playoff game, as Manigni said on Wednesday.
An NFL source told Newsday the league office is unaware of the incident, and that the Patriots didn`t bring it up during the "Spygate" investigation in September.
Newsday also sights a Foxsports.com article in which Jets General Manager, Mike Tannenbaum vehemently denied rumors that surfaced last year that the Jets had illegally videotaped the Patriots.
A person familiar with the situation told Newsday Tuesday night that the Jets wanted to acquire a second end-zone angle for both games in Foxborough.
This of course comes to light after New England was caught using video to spy on Jets assistant coaches during the season opener in September.
Patriots coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and the team was fined $250,000 for violating a league rule that prohibits clubs from using a video camera on the sidelines for any purpose, including recording signals relayed to opposing players on the field. New England must also forfeit its own 2008 first-round draft pick.
A video camera aimed at Jets coaches was confiscated from a Patriots employee during the first quarter of the team`s 38-14 win Sept. 9 over New York. Jets coach Eric Mangini has had a cool relationship with Belichick since leaving as Patriots defensive coordinator after the 2005 season.
New England is 13-0 after routing Pittsburgh on Sunday, while the Jets are 3-10. The Patriots opened up as a record 27 point favorite to beat the Jets; that number is now down to 24.
(© 2008 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)
ROFLMAO,
Korbel
PS
You asked for it.
As opposed to accually being punished by the league.Korbel said:
Your wiki refs and allegations didn’t get a * next to Manginis’ name. Unlike the one next to Belichick*. I know this has been discussed before, but can someone inform Korbel about wikipedia being used as a reliable source.
Hi BD,beautydigger said:As opposed to accually being punished by the league.
Your wiki refs and allegations didn’t get a * next to Manginis’ name. Unlike the one next to Belichick*. I know this has been discussed before, but can someone inform Korbel about wikipedia being used as a reliable source.
Obviously you made this post before reading my update...Ooops!!! The only real difference between the Patriots and Jets is the Patriots did not go running to the NFL when they caught the Jets doing it. But Mangini sure didn't mind making a federal case against the Patrots after he had done the same thing.
And that's a New York paper reporting on the Jets...pal.
Envy isn't thing only thing that is Green...Hypocrisy is too.
Toodles,
Korbie
PS
Two sources is called corroboration.
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