Do you know that the DOJ to date published a big 1% of the Eipstein documents they were supposed To publish in December ?
The Never Ending Saga of the Epstein Sex Scandal
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Do you know that the DOJ to date published a big 1% of the Eipstein documents they were supposed To publish in December ?
I hate that Venezuela, Iran, Ice etc. are pulling all the spotlight off of the epstein story.
Let's keep digging here also
Let's keep digging here also
It’s going nuclear.
Epstein. Trump. Kushner. Israel , Gates. Musk etc. Far left. Far right. Gold/silver. you name it.
Bannon’s zone flooding is in full effect.
With all the eyes focusing on so much. One can only think what is really going on behind the curtain.
My point is we’re about to see a lot of misinformation as well. Question the sources that catch your attention. Beware of far right & far left outlets. A shit ton of erratic information is about to hit the fan. Don’t blindly trust any news source that uses an algorithm to reach you (fb,ig,x,tiktok, reddit, chatgpt,etc).
Scary times we live in.
Epstein. Trump. Kushner. Israel , Gates. Musk etc. Far left. Far right. Gold/silver. you name it.
Bannon’s zone flooding is in full effect.
With all the eyes focusing on so much. One can only think what is really going on behind the curtain.
My point is we’re about to see a lot of misinformation as well. Question the sources that catch your attention. Beware of far right & far left outlets. A shit ton of erratic information is about to hit the fan. Don’t blindly trust any news source that uses an algorithm to reach you (fb,ig,x,tiktok, reddit, chatgpt,etc).
Scary times we live in.
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She can't say anything, but also isn't denying anything...
www.dailymail.co.uk
Melinda Gates throws ex-husband Bill to the wolves over Epstein
Melinda Gates held nothing back when reacting to the latest Epstein files release that alleged her billionaire ex-husband was having affairs with Russian girls during their marriage.
So I Read This Epstein Sex File WTF.
Hormones to Make Feminized Sex Boy Toys omg what an ingenious concept.
It seems Trans was not intended initially for sport competition.
So The Trans movement is a freaking Epstein Harvard Science project??
I am sure the Financing wormhole goes very deep in Big Pharma and Academia.
Eyes Wide Shut on this one Omg.
Harvard Scientist Robert Trivers
Hormones to Make Feminized Sex Boy Toys omg what an ingenious concept.
It seems Trans was not intended initially for sport competition.
So The Trans movement is a freaking Epstein Harvard Science project??
I am sure the Financing wormhole goes very deep in Big Pharma and Academia.
Eyes Wide Shut on this one Omg.
Harvard Scientist Robert Trivers
So you're telling me that this entire time liberals have been pushing the LGBTQ+ agenda so that they would have more femboy dicks to suck on Epstein's island?
That's crazy.
At the same time, everything makes so much sense now, can't say I'm surprised.
what megatron posted on X, is that real or fake? how did he get access to deleted files?
There is some big hypocrisy going on this board that is most transparently manifested itself in the discussions of the Jeffrey Epstein saga. Granted, Epstein himself was a proven pedophile which practically everyone on this board agrees is a crime. However, there is little evidence that he proposed service of underaged girls to his guests (read clients). In fact, there is plenty of the opposite evidence that most of his clients used the service of the legal age girls. I doubt that Clinton, Gates or Trump were engaged with underage girls. One of the big motivations to get rich is to have access to beautiful women either through marriage (which has its drawbacks) or by other means and Epstein has provided these means with an assumed security and confidentiality. As soon as there is no evidence that any particular client was engaged in sex with an underaged girl it is nobody business in my opinion. How it is different from running some high-end escort agency? Why every girl of the legal age that participated in this business is a victim? With this view we all on this board deserve a jail time. So, I have nothing against if Trump had good time with some legal age girls.She can't say anything, but also isn't denying anything...
Melinda Gates throws ex-husband Bill to the wolves over Epstein
Melinda Gates held nothing back when reacting to the latest Epstein files release that alleged her billionaire ex-husband was having affairs with Russian girls during their marriage.
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Yeah but you don’t hate Trump with a passion like the majority of political posters here.
I don’t particularly care for anyone who is married and cheats on his wife, but we all have different morals and obviously there are many that cheat on their wives /girlfriends on this board.
I don’t hate him but saying mildly I don’t respect him not as a president or as a person
Something the TV and media don't want to mention here is some big shot in Ukraine was involved in Epstein affair. Epstein sent private jets to Keyiv to bring back hundred of minor Ukrainian girls to the island, and those people are still in Zelensky's entourage. It was written in the report, but Nobody dares to bring it up or even mention it !
Ukraine is a known source of a “talent” but I doubt they were underage. This is not what is usually tolerated in Eastern Europe.
Just reading this thread for the first time. Some of the previous posts make me go full-on "Yikes!"
If one thinks the media is just sympathetic to the victims and the victims are making stuff up, then how does one explain how so many men from different political affiliations (with money and power being the only common denominators) end up in the files?
If it's the "media" then why did Epstein plead guilty to acquiring someone under 18 for prostitution, a plea that forced him to register as a sex offender? Who takes a sex offender plea for shits and giggles?
As for the victims being legal, why go with what one believes instead of listening to the people who came forward? Virginia Giuffre claims she met Epstein at 16. The age of consent in Florida is 18 and 17 in New York (Epstein saw girls in both places). The woman whose testimony helped convict Epstein noted she was 14 when she met him in Florida. A Michigan girl from the 1990s noted in the files claims she was 13.
Mind you, these victims didn't know Giuffre or each other. The 13 year old Michigan girl from the 1990s listed in the files didn't know Giuffre or the Florida girls. So, either a bunch of people who didn't know each other "concocted" the same general story OR--check this out--the abuser has a pattern and age preference.
It's pretty sad to know politics can shape how one processes whether child abuse is good or bad, tremendously sad but not surprising.
If one thinks the media is just sympathetic to the victims and the victims are making stuff up, then how does one explain how so many men from different political affiliations (with money and power being the only common denominators) end up in the files?
If it's the "media" then why did Epstein plead guilty to acquiring someone under 18 for prostitution, a plea that forced him to register as a sex offender? Who takes a sex offender plea for shits and giggles?
As for the victims being legal, why go with what one believes instead of listening to the people who came forward? Virginia Giuffre claims she met Epstein at 16. The age of consent in Florida is 18 and 17 in New York (Epstein saw girls in both places). The woman whose testimony helped convict Epstein noted she was 14 when she met him in Florida. A Michigan girl from the 1990s noted in the files claims she was 13.
Mind you, these victims didn't know Giuffre or each other. The 13 year old Michigan girl from the 1990s listed in the files didn't know Giuffre or the Florida girls. So, either a bunch of people who didn't know each other "concocted" the same general story OR--check this out--the abuser has a pattern and age preference.
It's pretty sad to know politics can shape how one processes whether child abuse is good or bad, tremendously sad but not surprising.
Name any other person in this saga beside Epstein himself that was convincingly involved with underaged girls. There is none to my knowledge as otherwise an automatic persecution would be mandatory.
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Ghislaine Maxwell & The Andrew formerly known as Prince for starters have been pretty convincingly involved don't you think?
The whole point of this fiasco on how the DOJ is releasing the files and how its been heavily redacted is a pretty strong indicator that redactions aren't just hiding the victims.
Just Today, representatives Thomas Massie, and Ro Khanna (those behind the Epstein Files Transparency Act), had limited (2 hours) direct access to the "non redacted" files at the DOJ (with plenty still redacted). They mentionned that in just those 2 hours, at least 6 important names (and 20 others not as famous) were redacted (including photos) participating in the trafficking. "One is pretty high up in a foreign goverment, one is a pretty prominent individual".... later 1 name was unredacted after their visit Les Wexner (former CEO of Victoria's Secret).
Lauren Boebert was livid and disgusted after seeing the DOJ "unredacted" files Today. Saying she thinks Maxwell deserves more harsh sentence and stating not all redacted names are victims.
Rep Jared Moskowitz , after viewing the unredacted files said "There are lots of names, lots of co-conspirators, and they’re trafficking girls all across the world."
And none of this has to do with legal escorts btw. There are mentions of 9-10-14-15 year old girls... I mean its pretty obvious that this needs to be blown open at this point don't you think?
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I have no doubt that a lot of people had been involved in a so called” sex trafficking” or as it called on this board “talent recruitment”. Many more people used the service as it would be with any other escort agency. However, I have not heard any evidence that any individual besides Jeffrey Epstein himself used service of underage girls. There is some evidence that prince Andrew met Virginia Giuffre when she was seventeen and that is it. Covering such evidence would be the crime itself and I doubt that DOJ would do that.
First, before the files were released my take was the files won't necessarily be a smoking gun but it will prove associations i.e. there won't be enough to file criminal charges. That might still be correct, but the files show a lot of very unsavory things going on. Without explicitly detailing criminal activity, the emails are sketchy as fuck.
Secondly, to address your question, if Epstein was recruiting from a certain age group and these were the same girls his friends had access to, why would the girls that others slept with not be underage? The photo of Andrew and Virginia Giuffre is already out there. Andrew's excuses have been so bad, from denying ever meeting Virginia to he can't sweat, that his cageyness is part of why he's faced some consequences. That Giuffre was 17 at the time she met Andrew doesn't address her sexual assault allegations or his defensiveness on the matter.
I'd also add no sane person, be it Andrew who settled the Giuffre case, or Michael Jackson, settles a lawsuit involving child sexual abuse if they are innocent. The reputational damage is just different.
So, in closing, I don't put it past any of Epstein's associates that they were with underage girls when they were drawing from the same pool as Epstein. Yes, men like access to easy sex. Above-board men join exclusive escort agencies. Elliott Spitzer and David Vitter, two politicians whose careers were tainted by revelations of hiring escorts, are not in the files as far as I know. The ones in the files and Epstein himself are a product of power giving one an aura of invincibility because everyone knows power corrupts.
A person can not be legally accused on the base of association, but his reputation can be tainted by it. This is what the media is doing all the time. So, if somebody had contact with Epstein and even used service of some of his escorts then by your assumption, he is probably also a pedophile? I believe that such people as Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, Alan Dershowitz, etc. have enough brains to understand the danger and to stay away from underaged girls .By the way, there is no above board exclusive escort agencies in the US. Epstain's enterprise was such an exclusive agency but also not above-board.
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I 100% agree with your first sentence and I said as much in the previous post. Just appearing in the files doesn't mean anything, but the context and what was said absolutely does.
Of the few people who have stepped down from their posts or the public eye, like Larry Summers, CEO of Chuck E Cheese, Peter Mandelson, why are they doing so if they've done nothing wrong?
I don't doubt that Clinton, Dershowitz et al. know that cavorting with teenage girls is morally and legally wrong. What you're missing is what applies to all those people applied to Epstein too: they thought they were invincible and wouldn't get caught. And it's not hard to believe that when these activities have been happening for decades. Even when Epstein first dealt with legal consequences, he got a deal that netted him 13 months behind bars. For contrast, R Kelly who faced similar charges and also had a thing for young girls is facing 31 years of prison time. Jared Fogle of Subway fame got 15 years (both also had underage pornography charges. Epstein had suspicions of owning some but never charged over it)
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