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I've flown into Montreal from the US at least 12 times over the last few years, and driven across twice. I've never had anyone ask where I'm staying or anything. Just "business or pleasure" and that's about it. I think anyone worried about this is just paranoid. If they ask where you are staying, just say the Marriott or something. If you are afraid they will check on this, believe me there's something else that's making you look suspicious.

You can always say you're going to visit friends for a few days, you don't know the exact address but it's in Westmont or somewhere. I seriously doubt if they would ask for a phone number to call.

In general, plan on not being asked anything beyond why are you visiting Canada and how long you plan to stay.

I've been asked where I am staying and to name the hotel, which I do. I always book beofore going. The border guards want to know if you are a tourist or if you plan to stay for other reasons, i.e. to get work or a fugitive, etc. Sometimes they ask but most times they don't. Always tell the truth. That's the best advice, because if they think you are wishy washy and are alone, they may ask you to go inside and answer questions.
 

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Hey BL,

This year the International Beer Festival was held the week before Grand Prix and I believe lasted about four days. I attended Grand Prix instead so I personally can't tell you much about the Beer Festival. I saw it advertised on a Montreal Tourism site and it looked like a great event if you like beer. I wish it would have coincided with Grand Prix so my choices of beer wouldn't have been so limited during my time in Montreal due to the offical sponsorship of Budweiser(YUCK!).
 

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Here's my take on border crossing...

2 things factor in on how easy or difficult it is...

1) Your appearance... I've done security before, and I don't care how many times you hear someone say, "We don't profile any particular person." They are full of shit & covering their ass. If you look shady you can expect to get treated like a shady character. I'm not saying 3 peice suit, but don't look as if you rolled out of a dumpster either. Nice car? Not important as long as all the paperwork is in order and you know the plate number when you pull up. We usually rent a car, so we're covered.

2) Random Selection... Every single time we've gotten our car searched, the officer at the window didn't even look at us. We'd pull up, they'd hand us a slip of paper and say, "Park over there and bring this inside with your ID."

If they do ask you questions, answer them. And make it sound honest...

Q: What are you guys coming to Canada for?
A: Vacation... Go to the casino, see some sights.

Q: How long will you be staying?
A: (Honest Answer) Just the weekend.

Q: Where are you staying?
A: (Honest Answer) Clarion on De Maisonneuve.

Q: How much money are you bringing?
A: (Honest Answer) (however much you have, unless it'll get you into trouble)

Q: Do you have any alchol or tabacco products?
A: (Honest Answer) 2 packs of cigarettes for personal use.

You get the point... They're not gonna ask if you're going to see any escorts. So don't worry about it. Shit, I actually had a guy say to me (when I said I'm coming up for Vacation), "You gonna hit the strip clubs?" So I responded with of course... Remember it's not illegal to go to strip clubs... As long as you have nothing to hide (warrents, etc.) don't hassle it. Just relax and play it cool.

And if they have to go through the car expect to be there for a half-hour.
 

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I don't see the reason for paranoia here.

I usually go to Montreal by bus or train; I don't care for the drive, especially in winter. When I arrive at the border, I'm with a bunch of other schmos on public transit. One or two questions and I'm usually out of there.

I agree with the comment about older guys being easier than young women. I hate getting in the young women's line. They always ask more questions.

As far as what you are going for -- the casino, the sights, the best food in North America, shopping...there are all kinds of answers.

And lastly, I truly don't think border agents are interested in preventing men from seeing escorts in Montreal. Besides, isn't it legal to see independents? (Correct me if I am wrong)

The border agents are interesting in stopping smuggling and terrorism. They're not interested in what you plan on doing with your johnson.
 

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The questions asked at the border are usually the ones recited in Uncle Cracker's post above (give or take a question or two). They sometimes also ask when were you last in Canada, and they always ask, "are you meeting anyone, like family or friends?" This question should always be answered in the negative unless you are prepared to give the name and address of anyone you are meeting.
 

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Why do some posters here make crossing the border sound like an ordeal ? In my experience (as a Canadian) it's hassle-free in both directions.
 

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That's just it, Roland. Make it simple. You're going there to enjoy the city. Tourism is part of Montreal's economy, and the border patrol is not there to keep you from going to a hotel and spending money, even if it's on an escort...or two...or six...
 

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chef said:
Why do some posters here make crossing the border sound like an ordeal ? In my experience (as a Canadian) it's hassle-free in both directions.

Chef,

I think for some people who are not frequent travellers to Canada, and who are also not terribly effective communicators, and are going to Canada mainly for reasons of "sexual tourism", the questioning at the border can be a somewhat stressful experience (for reasons that may or may not be objectively reasonable).

In my business, on a daily basis, I get to see clients and others function under the duress of questioning in "official" proceedings. Many people do not handle it well, and usually the ones who do not simply are highly uncomfortable about being questioned either "on the record" or in any kind of formal manner. It's usually these people who have poor communication skills. It doesn't always have to do with education, because the best testimony in court under a direct examination that I ever saw came from a blue collar man with a high school education. It mainly has to do with one's native communication skills and native intelligence in situations where one is forced to think on one's feet.

Some people do not think well on their feet, know it, and this will also be a source of stress in situations like this where they have to answer an unspecified number of unknown questions from the border guards.

For these reasons, these kinds of threads and the questions in them are healthy and appropriate. I think that newcomers and younger people will have more questions and concerns. The most important thing for most people to remember when questioned by a border guard is this: YOU ARE NOT UNDER OATH, AND YOUR ANSWERS ARE NOT RECORDED. Therefore don't treat it like being in an "official proceeding", even if it feels like one. This does not mean you are free to lie in an unfettered manner, but rather that you are not obligated to expound on the entire truth. If your answers are sufficiently vague in the details given, they can't, and won't, be checked.
 
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Eager Beaver is on the money when he says that the usual questions are those in Uncle Kracker's post above. Numerous others have already posted the best advice be honest. Border agents are looking for smugglers, illegal immigrants, potential terrorists and other criminals, not for guys going to see sp's. If you look and act "squirrely" you're going to be questioned (or if you look out of place - going through a small border port because map blast said it was the shortest route, you live in Philadelphia you say you're going to Montreal but you're crossing the border in Maine [because you were seeing your cousin from California who was skiing]). Being honest, however, doesn't mean telling everything you're planning to do hour by hour. For instance:

Q: Where are you going? A: Montreal (or Ville de Québec or wherever).
To date I've never been asked what hotel.

Q What's the purpose of your visit? A Tourism, I'm going to: a) do the clubs, b) go to the Museums, c) go to the hockey game, and, and only and d) get together with some acquaintances.

The Border agents typically aren't concerned about whom you're seeing unless it seems likely you're seeing either a criminal or a terrorist.

Why are they concerned about you visiting a girlfriend or family? Because they don't want to get jammed up for violating the rules. If they have to ask Wong Li from the PRC if he or she is going to be visiting relatives in Canada and are concerned about them becoming an illegal, then they have to ask you as well. Even though they know that U.S. & Canadian Nationals have very little economic motivation to go illegal on the other side of the border and that it is relatively easy to get permission to work and or reside in the other country and that tons of Canadian and U.S. Nationals are married to each other.

Finaly, particularly if you're going to be a regular traveler. A NEXUS card is a nice privilege to have if you use one of the border crossings or airports offering the program. However, it is a privilege only extended to those who can pass the background checks and it requires an in-person interview (for most of those on this board probably in Montreal) with both U.S. and Canadian border protection agencies - but its a time saver and good for 5 years. That said, if the activities here are your only "vice" fine. But, if you have true vices, don't even think about NEXUS! There is a no tolerance policy for holders of NEXUS cards. You are expected to know the rules and if you violate them, both govenments have a policy of prosecution on all charges.
 

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Business or Pleasure

I've not driven into Canada for years, so my only experience is at the airport. The customs form has a business box, yes or no. The only questions the agent asked me was business or pleasure? If it was business I said so. If it was pleasure, I put a big grin on my face and said: "Pleasure, purely Pleasure." He grinned back and said "Have a good time." The only reason they may question you otherwise is if they think you may be doing something illegal, guns, dope, smuggling..... you know standard stuff.
 

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EagerBeaver said:
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In my business, on a daily basis, I get to see clients and others function under the duress of questioning in "official" proceedings. Many people do not handle it well, and usually the ones who do not simply are highly uncomfortable about being questioned either "on the record" or in any kind of formal manner........
I once had a U.S. Customs Officer ask me "why" in response to every answer I gave him. At the 3rd "why" I started laughing, and we both had a chuckle. The key is to be relaxed. You are not doing anything wrong, so why be nervous?
 

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There is some good news for NEXUS holders.

If you have ANY kind of NEXUS, you automatically qualify for the other kinds.

For example, if you currently have NEXUS Highway, you can now go into the office and add NEXUS Air capabilities by getting your irises photographed.

This has great potential, because NEXUS allows you quick processing through both US and Canadian customs, unlike CANPASS which only handles Canadian processing when arriving by air.

Unfortunately, NEXUS Air is currently available only at Vancouver (YVR). I think that eventually, it will be available at other Canadian airports such as YUL.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel/nexus/new-nouvel-e.html
 

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............ if you currently have NEXUS Highway, you can now go into the office and add NEXUS Air capabilities by getting your irises photographed.......
And if you fail the iris test, two fingers come out and poke you in the eyes !!

Sorry for the banter.
 

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chef said:
And if you fail the iris test, two fingers come out and poke you in the eyes !!

Sorry for the banter.

LOL.

Actually, if the North American Union ever becomes a reality, all of this will be moot.
 

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bond_james_bond said:
Unfortunately, NEXUS Air is currently available only at Vancouver (YVR). I think that eventually, it will be available at other Canadian airports such as YUL.
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel/nexus/new-nouvel-e.html

I suspect that both YUL and YYZ will have NEXUS Air programs within the next few years, as will one or all of the New York City airports as well as hopefully BOS and PHL. However, I have no inside knowledge.
 

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My Experience

Some other questions I've encountered:

Where do you work?
How long have you worked there?
When was the last time you visited Canada?
Is this your car?
I'm thinking of a number from 1 to 10, what is it?


I cross in Vermont 89 Highgate. I never have a problem when I drive into Canada alone, but when I drive in with a buddy of mine, we are asked to pull over. I blame it on my friends attitude and it usually cost us 30 to 45 mins.

Coming back in to the US at Highgate, I'm a marked man, and I get asked to pull over frequently because several years ago they found some cigars that I had carefully hidden in my trunk. The Custom guy's were so proud of themselves that day.

To make a long story short, they gave me a long talk, had me hang around and sweat it out for an hour, then took my cigars and said have a nice day.

Funny thing is, on days when it's really backed up at the border, they let me cruise right through vs. days that it's calm, they want to take a closer look inside the car. It's cool though, I usually offer to pull over now.

I'd say the only time you would have a problem is if your hiding one.

And YES, they can be intimidating....even to seasoned communicators.
 

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The only fear I have is when I am packing some lingerie as a gift for an SP. That could be hard to explain away if my bag is searched. Why would I be taking a gift for my wife INTO Canada?

I haven't had to deal with that one yet, and hope I don't have to.
 

bond_james_bond

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Yeah, but they asked:

"Are you meeting anyone in Canada?" You say no.

During the following search, they find a bunch of lingerie or women's clothing in your bags.

If you're not meeting anyone, who's it for?

What then? Say that you're a cross-dresser? :confused: :eek: :eek:
 

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YOU ARE NOT UNDER OATH, AND YOUR ANSWERS ARE NOT RECORDED.

No, but border crossings are under video surveillance.

And the officer probably gets triple overtime to testify against you in court, if it comes down to that.
 

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bond_james_bond said:
Yeah, but they asked:

"Are you meeting anyone in Canada?" You say no.

During the following search, they find a bunch of lingerie or women's clothing in your bags.

If you're not meeting anyone, who's it for?

What then? Say that you're a cross-dresser? :confused: :eek: :eek:

Well, 007, sadly, it's my backup plan to do that....but seeing as that I'm 6'3" and I buy lingerie for petite SPs, it might be met with skepticism :eek:
 
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