Baloney,
So according to your wording the President was responsible for:
Bernie Madoff's Ponzi Scheme.
The Columbine Shootings.
Jerry Sandusky's Child Abuse.
College Football Rules Violations.
Pedophile Priests.
Big Tobacco Lying to Congress.
The Lindbergh Kidnapping.
Spousal Cheating.
Failing Breathalyzer Tests.
School Bullying.
Running Red Lights.
etc. etc. etc.
Either you meant all of the above the way you wrote, or you don't know how to communicate what you want to. Really Lovemaker, silly.
The Secret Service is run by it's Director.
Protective Visits
http://www.secretservice.gov/protection_works.shtml
In general, for protective visits, teams of Secret Service personnel travel in advance and conduct site surveys, which assess needs for manpower, equipment, hospitals and evacuation routes for emergencies. Fire, rescue and other public service personnel in the community are alerted.
Before a protectee arrives at any site, a lead advance agent coordinates all law enforcement representatives participating in the visit. Intelligence information is discussed and emergency options are outlined. Prior to the arrival of the protectee, checkpoints are established and access to the secured area is limited.
The assistance of the military, federal, state, county and local law enforcement, and the public safety organizations is a vital part of the entire security operation. During protective visits, Secret Service and local law enforcement personnel form a network of support for members of the detail working in close proximity to the protectee. A Secret Service command post acts as the communication center for protective activities, monitors emergencies and keeps all participants in contact with one another. After the visit, agents analyze every step of the protective operation, record unusual incidents and suggest improvements for the future.
The President doesn't do any of the above, or run daily Secret Service operations any more than he runs most of the agencies that report to him...or are you telling everyone here that President Obama sent directions and organized the gathering of prostitutes in Colombia??? :lol:
You're being contrary lately mostly because you're pissed I didn't take the same long suspension with you. Get over it.
Hi Merlot. What, they took away all their "equipement"?!?.
Its true there could easily have been underage teens but reading the text I thought they implied younger children.
Yes, I used the word underaged to be comprehensive. But the reports of the general situation in Colombia did refer to children, though I find it hard to believe they were involved in this episode.
Cheers,
Merlot
And who runs the Directors? Who do the Directors report to? For you to think that there is this separate entity within America that has the power to kill and spy on others without any interference from the government is as hollywood and crazy as any thinking can get.
Not true. I'm substantiating everything with facts without resorting to any personal attacks. I'm just trying to teach you a little about the CIA and the various stages of government hierarchy.
Cheers,
Lovemaker
Hey LM
So you dodged the question of whether Obama got the prostitutes.
"... crazy as any thinking can get." "...without resorting to any personal attacks.
Such a self-defeating statement. So "crazy" is how you avoid personal attacks.
"For you to think that there is this separate entity within America..."
I acknowledged that the agencies and departments report to the President. So your statement that I indicated any separate entities is a falsehood regarding anything I said.
"And who runs the directors?"
Directors or heads of government agencies report to the President. That has not been disputed. Directors are chosen or kept in office because their policy philosophy of operation matches generally well enough or sometimes closely to the President who sets policy. But each department head is delegated the power to run the agency, making most decisions with the trust of the President who could not possibly micro-manage decisions for dozens of agencies with millions of personnel in their services.
Directors also have a large amount of autonomy, J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI being the most vivid example. Hoover was infamous for using the agency against the laws of the U.S. (as in the COINTELPRO operations against Supreme Court rulings), and refusing to cooperate with a number of Presidents policies to the point of using secret personal files for leverage. While Hoover may be the extreme case, any director makes many decisions based on basic policy, not running to the President to say..."May I". Presidents can't function if agency heads don't run their own agencies.
As you can see by the story below, Director Sullivan is the one being investigated for how HE IS HANDLING THE AGENCY:
Despite scandal, Obama confident in Secret Service boss
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/17/despite-scandal-obama-confident-in-secret-service-boss/
WASHINGTON — The White House Tuesday expressed confidence in the chief of the US Secret Service, but the elite bodyguard unit’s Colombian sex scandal deepened, with claims that 20 women were involved.
Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan is coming under increasing political pressure over allegations that agents sent to the Caribbean resort of Cartagena ahead of President Barack Obama’s weekend visit consorted with prostitutes.
“The president has confidence in the director of the Secret Service,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.
“Secret Service Director Sullivan acted quickly in response to the incident and is overseeing an investigation as we speak into the matter,” Carney said.
But Obama’s spokesman did not directly respond to a question over whether Sullivan should step down if the probe finds Secret Service agents acted improperly ahead of the Summit of the Americas.
“I am not going to, as the president did not, speculate about conclusions the investigation might reach since it is ongoing,” said Carney.
Obama has said he would be “angry” if the allegations are proven true, and has stressed US officials of all levels had a duty to behave properly when abroad representing their country.
US Republican Senator Susan Collins, meanwhile offered new details after a briefing from Sullivan on the alleged incident, which became public soon after Obama arrived in Colombia for the Summit of the Americas.
“He told me that there are 11 Secret Service agents and officers involved,” she said in a statement.
“Some 20 women foreign nationals were brought to the hotel in (Colombia), but allegedly marines were involved with the rest.”
The Pentagon said Monday that five military personnel were also under investigation.
Collins later told reporters that some of the agents involved “were uniformed personnel who were assigned to building security. Others were these specialized agents who do security details.”
She warned that the security implications of the incident were “potentially extremely serious” amid fears the agents exposed themselves to blackmail.
“We don’t know who these women are. They could be spies, they could be associated with hostile forces, they could have disabled the agents weapons, or planted listening devices,” she said.
Collins, the ranking Republican on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee said Sullivan told her that the 11 recalled Secret Service agents had been interviewed about the incident.
A government source said Sunday that the agents had seen their top secret security clearances suspended pending the result of the investigation.
The incident has revived questions about the leadership of the Secret Service, which has an official mandate to protect the president and his family, and also works to combat currency counterfeiting and fraud.
Sullivan earlier found himself on the hot spot in 2009 after socialite and reality star Michaele Salahi and her husband Tareq breezed through White House security at a state dinner for Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
He admitted mistakes were made over the security breach as he was grilled by lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
Senator Joe Lieberman, chair of the Homeland Security committee, said Tuesday he would be prepared to hold a hearing if it would be productive.
“But I don’t want to just go ahead and do a hearing unless I think we can get something valuable out of it,” he told reporters.
Hundreds of Secret Service agents typically travel with, or before Obama when he goes abroad, in a huge security retinue.
The agency insists on high standards of training and discipline for both its iconic plain clothes, presidential protective and uniformed squads.
But the latest stories have revived questions about the culture in the service, and speculation about an alleged “wheels up, rings off” attitude of some traveling agents which officers say tarnishes the majority of the service.
So Lovemaker, with all the "pressure" on Sullivan, with him answering for the agents in Colombia, him admitting his mistakes, him being questioned by key government security over-sight committees, him being questioned about the culture of within the Secret Service, Obama still professing faith in Sullivan leading the agency...it's clear everyone but you thinks Sullivan is running the Secret Service. CASE CLOSED!
Cheers,
Merlot
So you dodged the question of whether Obama got the prostitutes.
"... crazy as any thinking can get." "...without resorting to any personal attacks.
Such a self-defeating statement. So "crazy" is how you avoid personal attacks.
"For you to think that there is this separate entity within America..."
I acknowledged that the agencies and departments report to the President. So your statement that I indicated any separate entities is a falsehood regarding anything I said.
"And who runs the directors?"
Directors or heads of government agencies report to the President. That has not been disputed. Directors are chosen or kept in office because their policy philosophy of operation matches generally well enough or sometimes closely to the President who sets policy. But each department head is delegated the power to run the agency, making most decisions with the trust of the President who could not possibly micro-manage decisions for dozens of agencies with millions of personnel in their services.
Directors also have a large amount of autonomy, J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI being the most vivid example. Hoover was infamous for using the agency against the laws of the U.S. (as in the COINTELPRO operations against Supreme Court rulings), and refusing to cooperate with a number of Presidents policies to the point of using secret personal files for leverage. While Hoover may be the extreme case, any director makes many decisions based on basic policy, not running to the President to say..."May I". Presidents can't function if agency heads don't run their own agencies.
As you can see by the story below, Director Sullivan is the one being investigated for how HE IS HANDLING THE AGENCY:
Despite scandal, Obama confident in Secret Service boss
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/17/despite-scandal-obama-confident-in-secret-service-boss/
WASHINGTON — The White House Tuesday expressed confidence in the chief of the US Secret Service, but the elite bodyguard unit’s Colombian sex scandal deepened, with claims that 20 women were involved.
Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan is coming under increasing political pressure over allegations that agents sent to the Caribbean resort of Cartagena ahead of President Barack Obama’s weekend visit consorted with prostitutes.
“The president has confidence in the director of the Secret Service,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.
“Secret Service Director Sullivan acted quickly in response to the incident and is overseeing an investigation as we speak into the matter,” Carney said.
But Obama’s spokesman did not directly respond to a question over whether Sullivan should step down if the probe finds Secret Service agents acted improperly ahead of the Summit of the Americas.
“I am not going to, as the president did not, speculate about conclusions the investigation might reach since it is ongoing,” said Carney.
Obama has said he would be “angry” if the allegations are proven true, and has stressed US officials of all levels had a duty to behave properly when abroad representing their country.
US Republican Senator Susan Collins, meanwhile offered new details after a briefing from Sullivan on the alleged incident, which became public soon after Obama arrived in Colombia for the Summit of the Americas.
“He told me that there are 11 Secret Service agents and officers involved,” she said in a statement.
“Some 20 women foreign nationals were brought to the hotel in (Colombia), but allegedly marines were involved with the rest.”
The Pentagon said Monday that five military personnel were also under investigation.
Collins later told reporters that some of the agents involved “were uniformed personnel who were assigned to building security. Others were these specialized agents who do security details.”
She warned that the security implications of the incident were “potentially extremely serious” amid fears the agents exposed themselves to blackmail.
“We don’t know who these women are. They could be spies, they could be associated with hostile forces, they could have disabled the agents weapons, or planted listening devices,” she said.
Collins, the ranking Republican on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee said Sullivan told her that the 11 recalled Secret Service agents had been interviewed about the incident.
A government source said Sunday that the agents had seen their top secret security clearances suspended pending the result of the investigation.
The incident has revived questions about the leadership of the Secret Service, which has an official mandate to protect the president and his family, and also works to combat currency counterfeiting and fraud.
Sullivan earlier found himself on the hot spot in 2009 after socialite and reality star Michaele Salahi and her husband Tareq breezed through White House security at a state dinner for Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
He admitted mistakes were made over the security breach as he was grilled by lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
Senator Joe Lieberman, chair of the Homeland Security committee, said Tuesday he would be prepared to hold a hearing if it would be productive.
“But I don’t want to just go ahead and do a hearing unless I think we can get something valuable out of it,” he told reporters.
Hundreds of Secret Service agents typically travel with, or before Obama when he goes abroad, in a huge security retinue.
The agency insists on high standards of training and discipline for both its iconic plain clothes, presidential protective and uniformed squads.
But the latest stories have revived questions about the culture in the service, and speculation about an alleged “wheels up, rings off” attitude of some traveling agents which officers say tarnishes the majority of the service.
So Lovemaker, with all the "pressure" on Sullivan, with him answering for the agents in Colombia, him admitting his mistakes, him being questioned by key government security over-sight committees, him being questioned about the culture of within the Secret Service, Obama still professing faith in Sullivan leading the agency...it's clear everyone but you thinks Sullivan is running the Secret Service. CASE CLOSED!
Cheers,
Merlot
At least they had good taste, here is the one that broke the scandal wide open."Dania".... What fools they were tho, offering $800 and then only wanting to pay $30 after lol.,,......idiots! :lol:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ws-main-bb|dl11|sec1_lnk2&pLid=153574#s887864
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ws-main-bb|dl11|sec1_lnk2&pLid=153574#s887864
Well,
Your mistakes on slavery and misreads of your own posts on this issue do not show teaching ability, as well as the self-contradicting claims of purity.
Reporting to the President, is not the same as being responsible for running the agency. Directors run agencies.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...sullivan-secret-service/54395770/1?csp=34news
...
The New York Times interviewed the prostitute at the center of the scandal who said the dispute between her and the agent that uncovered the prostitution was trigggered by a disagreement on how much to pay for her services. She said she had no idea the man was part of the Obama security team, the newspaper reported.
"I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money,' " the woman tells Times reporter William Neuman in in her first public comments on the incident.
She tells the Times that the man had offered $30 for the night of sex but, in what may stem from a misunderstanding because of the language barrier, she thought they had agreed to $800.
...
...Even as Obama and lawmakers on Capitol Hill have expressed outrage over the prostitution scandal, Sullivan has so far emerged relatively unscathed and has even managed to command a measure of respect. On Wednesday, one day after the White House said Sullivan continues to hold the president's confidence, likely Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney seconded Obama's support for the director.
"We are a nation, after all, under law, and the president has confidence in the head of the Secret Service, as do I," Romney told radio show host Laura Ingraham.
Sullivan has received plaudits from Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., who heads the House Homeland Security Committee, and Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who said he was "impressed'' with how quickly Sullivan moved to launch his own internal inquiry and to request a separate investigation of the matter by the Department of Homeland Security's inspector general. Issa and Cummings also applauded Sullivan for taking "swift and decisive action in response to this scandal."
Sullivan, who was named director of the Secret Service in May 2006, joined the service in 1983 and was assigned to the Detroit field office. He was transferred to Washington in 1990 and got his first presidential protective division assignment in 1991. He has served in various roles, including heading the vice presidential protective division and serving as the deputy director, before landing the top spot.
Sullivan has his critics. Rep. J. Randy Forbes, R-Va., on Wednesday called on Obama to fire Sullivan, noting that the Secret Service also failed to prevent a pair of reality show cast members from crashing a state dinner at the White House in 2009.
"It's time we step up and say, 'This is not acceptable; we're going to change the leadership and straighten this problem out,' " Forbes said.
Ronald Kessler, author of the book In The President's Secret Service and a critic of the director, said the incident "is a symptom of the corner cutting and laxness that has been going on under Director Sullivan." Still, he said, Sullivan is likely to survive.
Joseph Wippl, a former CIA officer and scholar at Boston University, said that Sullivan did well in mitigating a difficult situation through his quick response to lawmakers. Wippl noted, however, that Sullivan may not be out of the woods yet. The investigation is ongoing, and Secret Service and other administration officials could be hauled before lawmakers looking to express their outrage in a public setting.
"He dealt with the problem, but from a management standpoint you have to remind people that you have to conduct yourself in a way that is appropriate because you are an American official serving overseas," Wippl said. "That said, this incident does not mark the end of the republic."
Sullivan, Sullivan, Sullivan. It seems that every but you (LM) knows who is responsible for running the agency and dealing with the consequences of this episode. I am glad to see Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan is being mostly supported by top leadership (Obama and Romney) and intelligence service experts for what may have started by a prostitute scam.
This whole thing may have been caused by misinterpretation of language regarding the fee, but I get the feeling this was caused by little more than a prostitute scam. Maybe each party misunderstood what was to be paid. But when I read reports that top prostitutes make $200 and this one wanted $800, it takes on all the signs of a woman trying to exploit/extort the potential embarrassment she knew she could hold over U.S. government agents foolish enough to let the women know they were U.S. Secret Service agents. LESSON #1 IN HOBBYING: Never give up any part of your identity...or you may pay a much higher price...like getting your life F'ed instead of enjoying one.
This reminds me of when a good friend paid a well known local Montreal HDH, then she called an hour or two later to say she didn't have the money, and wanted him to pay her...again. :crazy:
All this stuff about intelligence information being compromised to hooker spies is something that should be taken seriously, but in this case it is probably no more than a political leveraging tactic and exploitation for tabloid profiteering.
Oh boy,
Merlot
One article I read (NY times I think) said the girls did not actually know they were US agents and the guys were actually discreet about that. The girls just saw that they seemed like rich people and tried to get as much as they could.
I don't understand why you keep bringing in things from other threads. And why are you so concerned about how pure I am? Dude, no one respects you despite your seniority in this game, not even the agencies. I know this first hand and that says a lot about how pure you are. I been arguing your points thus far and you continue to question my level of purity, which is irrelevant. You attacked CS Martin as well in this thread, for no reason. Chill out and focus on the content not the individual. You're in your 50s and still getting banned from the sports section, get a job bro so you could come to Montreal more often than your current escort adventures which you embark on once every decade or so.
The president is held responsible for any fuckups that happen with the nation's secret service. They report to the president yet the president is not responsible???
These are government agencies and therefore the president is responsible. Can you name all the government agencies?Light,
Lovemaker
As much as I deplore Obama, I cannot blame him for what the Secret Service did. He didn't institute a new Secret Service recreation program.
But seriously, what the Secret Service agents did was really stupid. They put themselves in a really compromising position. Any prostitute they came across or anybody associated with the prostitutes could have blackmailed them for Obama's tour details and schedule. This happened a few hours before Obama's appearance.
They are called Secret Service in part because their service is secret. They are protecting the office of the President of the US.
I don't think the president of the US has too much control over what Secret Service does, anyhow. I believe that there are certain Standard Operating Procedures in place that allows the Secret Service to over rule the president in certain situations. For example, Obama is probably not allowed to walk out of the door of the White House and out the gate and walk out in the street by himself without their presence. Or take an ordinary car and drive in the street without their presence.
But seriously, what the Secret Service agents did was really stupid. They put themselves in a really compromising position. Any prostitute they came across or anybody associated with the prostitutes could have blackmailed them for Obama's tour details and schedule. This happened a few hours before Obama's appearance.
They are called Secret Service in part because their service is secret. They are protecting the office of the President of the US.
I don't think the president of the US has too much control over what Secret Service does, anyhow. I believe that there are certain Standard Operating Procedures in place that allows the Secret Service to over rule the president in certain situations. For example, Obama is probably not allowed to walk out of the door of the White House and out the gate and walk out in the street by himself without their presence. Or take an ordinary car and drive in the street without their presence.
Can you give us a more significant example? We don't want to hear about Obama not having a choice when the secret service follows him to the bathroom.
Peeeuuuu,
You broke your word of honor in a torrent of blueboard-type flames immediately after your pledge of a clean on-subject discussion. That's LM.
Otherwise, it's the same hate you trot out whenever you've turned on anyone a dozen times or more.
True DD. Presidents often want to do things that compromise their safety. While the Secret Service cannot specifically tell the President what or how to do things they can impose safety restrictions. Obviously, any agency mandated to protect the President must act autonomously to achieve that goal. That means controlling the situation around the President, though not him directly. But protection, or the amount and closeness, cannot be refused by the President.
An excerpt here explains Secret Service control:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/18/other-agents-reportedly-furious-over-secret-service-sex-scandal/
These days, the Secret Service can control not just those who have access to the President but also entire sections of buildings or cities. With agents assigned to sweep for surveillance, cordon off hotels, carry petty cash, man posts on roofs and run the ever increasing layers of security, there isn’t a single person within view of the President who hasn’t gone through at least one screening (another lesson learned from the Reagan assassination attempt).
“They aren’t surrounding the President. They are guarding an area,” Robinson says. “Nothing happens without the Secret Service first having done it.”
The link also describes how other Secret Service agents are reacting to the acts of the few in Colombia. The episode is a disgrace to the prestige, HONOR, and mostly the purpose of the agency.
I don't see why these agents can't enjoy "the hobby" on their own personal time. But once on assignment there is no personal time. The entire episode injected the same element of RISK the Secret Service is mandated to eliminate. It's an incredible total failure of purpose and conscience.
Merlot
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Do you love my style?
What sounds better LM or CK? I might start my own fashion label , do you think LM could compete with CK? Would you support me Merlot?
In theory, the CIA is a government agency that has to report to the president, therefore, its ultimate boss is the president. In practice, we all know that the CIA runs America and the government is powerless.
Lovemaker
Quote {Think link also describes how other Secret Service agents are reacting to the acts of the few in Colombia. The episode is a disgrace to the prestige, HONOR, and mostly the purpose of the agency. **
more than 20 of them have been suspended for the same situation in the past few days...
more than 20 of them have been suspended for the same situation in the past few days...
Warning!!!
WARNING!!!! This isn't a political thread and whatever the Pope arranged the meetings, or Obama, or some Islamic group is irrelevant. Please stay with the topic.
Next political tirade will see this thread closed and the poster suspended.
Thanks
WARNING!!!! This isn't a political thread and whatever the Pope arranged the meetings, or Obama, or some Islamic group is irrelevant. Please stay with the topic.
Next political tirade will see this thread closed and the poster suspended.
Thanks
I can only think that this event is hiding something else.
In this secret world, nothing comes out in the open for public withtout hidding something else.
And sometimes a 'fuck-up' or a 'blunder' is the only way to put in place a new 'way' of working, or a futur step that the public can only 'abide' to or to get rid of something.
There has to be more than what we hear about and probably has nothing to do with politics.
In the secret service, the people up-front are never the ones in control...and looking dumb sometimes is the best way to hide how clever you are !
In this secret world, nothing comes out in the open for public withtout hidding something else.
And sometimes a 'fuck-up' or a 'blunder' is the only way to put in place a new 'way' of working, or a futur step that the public can only 'abide' to or to get rid of something.
There has to be more than what we hear about and probably has nothing to do with politics.
In the secret service, the people up-front are never the ones in control...and looking dumb sometimes is the best way to hide how clever you are !
Right you are Mod11! Back to more pictures of Dania! On this page you have her stats and description.
http://www.latin-personals.com/ladies/colombia/colombia-women-110446.htm
And she's a MILF too!!
Apparently she went in hiding with he son (and her pug) after her photos came out. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/secret-service-scandal-hooker-dania-suarez-hiding-photos-exposed-lawyer-article-1.1064905
The agents might deserve to lose their jobs but I feel sorry for her.
http://www.latin-personals.com/ladies/colombia/colombia-women-110446.htm
And she's a MILF too!!
Apparently she went in hiding with he son (and her pug) after her photos came out. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/secret-service-scandal-hooker-dania-suarez-hiding-photos-exposed-lawyer-article-1.1064905
The agents might deserve to lose their jobs but I feel sorry for her.
I saw an interview of Michelle Obama saying that she and her husband miss the days when they could go anywhere without having to drag an army of secret service agents. I have heard Laura Bush say that their lives changed the minute her husband was elected. Their freedom was never the same.
I have heard that the Secret Service has Standard Operating Procedures regardless of who the President is, and they must be followed. I am guessing that there are some Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) based on laws passed by Congress. Congress authorizes by law what the Secret Service can protect and not protect, not the President.
http://www.secretservice.gov/history.shtml
How to spot a secret service agent: http://www.englishblog.com/2012/04/cartoons-secret-service-sex-scandal.html
And the new security procedures: http://www.cagle.com/2012/04/presidential-security-update/
And the new security procedures: http://www.cagle.com/2012/04/presidential-security-update/
K
Kansas Frank
:hail:
My inexperience is very apparent. :lol: Outside the US, I've only Hobbied in TO and Montreal. :help: :hail:
I saw photos of the alleged SP -- she's HOT! :thumb:
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP operatives arranged for this story to be exposed. (The Democrats would have done the same thing during an election year, if the incumbent president were a GOP -- sorry Mod; but I'm not making a political stance; just hoping to explain the political reality. Same thing happened to DSK -- who was arrested for pimping in France recently.) I'm sure every SS dude, CIA dude and even FBI men engage in hobbying, especially when they are on overseas assignments. Hobbying among these agenncy folks date back to the time the agencies were created. They probably use their per-diem to supplement their Hobbying or charge it on their "special" expense accounts. As they say, don't cry for me Argentina. These "fired" SS dudes will find jobs at security companies (like Black Waters, which now goes by a different name) -- the same companies that provide escort (he, he, pun intended) services to American dignataries when they go abrod.
Surprisingly, my female professional colleagues in the office argue that if the Hobbying had occurred in a "first-world" ally country, it would be OK.
My apologies for naïveté about the global hobbyland :help:
I too should probably save up for a trip to Columbia :thumb::nod:
My inexperience is very apparent. :lol: Outside the US, I've only Hobbied in TO and Montreal. :help: :hail:
I saw photos of the alleged SP -- she's HOT! :thumb:
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP operatives arranged for this story to be exposed.
(The Democrats would have done the same thing during an election year, if the incumbent president were a GOP -- sorry Mod; but I'm not making a political stance; just hoping to explain the political reality. Same thing happened to DSK -- who was arrested for pimping in France recently.) I'm sure every SS dude, CIA dude and even FBI men engage in hobbying, especially when they are on overseas assignments. Hobbying among these agenncy folks date back to the time the agencies were created. They probably use their per-diem to supplement their Hobbying or charge it on their "special" expense accounts. As they say, don't cry for me Argentina. These "fired" SS dudes will find jobs at security companies (like Black Waters, which now goes by a different name) -- the same companies that provide escort (he, he, pun intended) services to American dignataries when they go abrod. Surprisingly, my female professional colleagues in the office argue that if the Hobbying had occurred in a "first-world" ally country, it would be OK.
My apologies for naïveté about the global hobbyland :help:
I too should probably save up for a trip to Columbia :thumb::nod:
