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NYC is known for being an obscenely expensive city as far as everything.
That is NYC for you. It is where the action and money is. Even a simple quality gym membership is going to cost $$$$$$.

If you are in a profession that pays well along with you can generate your own $$$ in various streams then things are not so bad.

I have never visited Vancouver for SPs but Montreal and Toronto win hands down. In NYC with one four hours session equals two 3 Day trips to Canada.
 
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For the employees or the clients?
Like, never you mind my fucking Linkedin. Want my Facebook were I shitpost every day? Pffft.
Due to the propensity police setting up raids for clients and providers, providers demand photo ID and/or identifiable contact ID to confirm you are not police. E.g. Linkedin, or job website, or driver license, etc.
I'm in Southern California so it can't
I thought most in S. Cali went to Tijuana and went to Hong Kong.
That is NYC for you. It is where the action and money is. Even a simple quality gym membership is going to cost $$$$$$.

If you are in a profession that pays well along with you can generate your own $$$ in various streams then things are not so bad.

I have never visited Vancouver for SPs but Montreal and Toronto win hands down. In NYC with one four hours session equals two 3 Day trips to Canada.
There is too much big money in NYC. There are people willing to drop $5k-$10k on tables at clubs on a regular weekend and you have bankers and tech bros willing to pay $1k+/hr rates.

There is one thing I would mention is that Montreal and Toronto has a main demographics difference due to language and who settles here which is reflected in the demo at agencies. An asian guy stereotypically looking for snow bunnies will NOT find many of what I assume you all are looking for which are Slavic blonde or Southern sorority cheerleader type blondes in Montreal. In Montreal, you have Quebecers and Canadians who are Francophones already and Middle East francophones from N. Africa and the Levantine and Persia. For real non dye job blondes who are thin and fit, it's sparse pickings. This is not to say the brunettes aren't hot and the many red heads aren't amazing.
 
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There is one thing I would mention is that Montreal and Toronto has a main demographics difference due to language and who settles here which is reflected in the demo at agencies. An asian guy stereotypically looking for snow bunnies will NOT find many of what I assume you all are looking for which are Slavic blonde or Southern sorority cheerleader type blondes in Montreal. In Montreal, you have Quebecers and Canadians who are Francophones already and Middle East francophones from N. Africa and the Levantine and Persia. For real non dye job blondes who are thin and fit, it's sparse pickings. This is not to say the brunettes aren't hot and the many red heads aren't amazing.
What can I say, Quebecoise brunettes with the Filles du Roy + Native Indian genetic stock are smokeshows. And I had blondes on the brain throughout my whole adolescence, yet find myself opting for brunettes on a much more consistent basis once I became a grown ass man, go figure.
 
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Forget Vancouver completely. It is one of the worst (major) cities in Canada to hobby in. Montreal for agencies, Toronto for strip clubs and MPs. Both different, but both lots of fun. Well versed in both areas.
 

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In the U.S. lots of hoop jumping with background checking and you are going to have to PAY $$$$$. There is definitely quality but the logistics arrrgghhhh. Helps if you have folks in the game recommend and vouch for you.

Or you can head to those brothels in Nevada.

Toronto = bigger, more variety, agencies work with you to plan ahead.

Montreal = smaller, mostly pretty/hot white girls, lack of HDH agency market so can’t plan ahead

Both cities are fun just depends on your taste and logistics.
Those brot**** in Nevada are such a rip off and no fun whatsoever. Very mechanical, robotic , no IOP at all , going through the notions stuff. It's like buying airport junk fast food for five times the price and not even liking it. To be avoided at all costs !
 
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You mean those are asked in the US agencies?
In the US , a lot of reputable providers want screening , again because of the stupid laws we have here making everyone suspicious. There are a few screening websites where you are pre-screened, which helps immensely. Not sure if any links are allowed to be posted here. But yes, that's why Canada is more appealing. Also, it is closer to the US than Europe or Brazil. And a very big under stated factor, a lot of the girls in Europe and Brazil do not speak conversational English and atleast for me I want to talk to the girl , have some chemistry going with the talk even if she is faking it lol vs just diving right in without any conversation. For a 1 hr session, you are not going to f*** the whole 1 hr no matter how much the guys brag that were nonstop for 1 hr lol ! So Canada makes it a more appealing option .
 

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Maybe it's less expensive in other US cities.

I just wanted to address the question about screening and excessive cost. 360usd is not that excessive compared to Montreal.
The quality is not at all comparable though. Much higher quality in Canada.
 

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What can I say, Quebecoise brunettes with the Filles du Roy + Native Indian genetic stock are smokeshows. And I had blondes on the brain throughout my whole adolescence, yet find myself opting for brunettes on a much more consistent basis once I became a grown ass man, go figure.
The sultry and/or leggy brunette. That is my thing and Montreal is full of them. As for Toronto which I visited for the second time after many years with one agency. Saw two amazing Latinas.
 

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In the US , a lot of reputable providers want screening , again because of the stupid laws we have here making everyone suspicious. There are a few screening websites where you are pre-screened, which helps immensely. Not sure if any links are allowed to be posted here. But yes, that's why Canada is more appealing. Also, it is closer to the US than Europe or Brazil. And a very big under stated factor, a lot of the girls in Europe and Brazil do not speak conversational English and atleast for me I want to talk to the girl , have some chemistry going with the talk even if she is faking it lol vs just diving right in without any conversation. For a 1 hr session, you are not going to f*** the whole 1 hr no matter how much the guys brag that were nonstop for 1 hr lol ! So Canada makes it a more appealing option .
Ok, interesting. That has not been my experience. Maybe I was lucky or found the ones that are exceptions
 
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The quality is not at all comparable though. Much higher quality in Canada.
Oh there is quality in NYC but you have to PAY for it. Needs background checks and recommendations preferably from other members.

In Montreal/Toronto all that are needed are who you want to see, how long, what time, what is your hotel, room number and your cell phone #.
 
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The quality is not at all comparable though. Much higher quality in Canada.
I think that my findings are quite something. My experience sounds like the contrary of what you guys are sharing lol

But demographic wise in NYC agencies it is very different from Montreal. There are definitely way more Japanese, Chinese and Vietnamese. Also I was surprised to see lot of Latinas and some Eastern Europe ladies.
 

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Oh there is quality in NYC but you have to PAY for it. Needs background checks and recommendations preferably from other members.

In Montreal/Toronto all that are needed are who you want to see, how long, what time, what is your hotel, room number and your cell phone #.
Of course yes. What i meant was comparable quality for the comparable price point.
 

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Ok, interesting. That has not been my experience. Maybe I was lucky or found the ones that are exceptions
For sure yes. For a comparable quality the the price points are not comparable. Plus going through the whole process it's kind of tedious and not as straightforward as in canada.
 

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Of course yes. What i meant was comparable quality for the comparable price point.
My type is the Bond Girl or Victoria Secret types. In Montreal/Toronto with good exchange rates yippee ki yay. In NYC this is available but it is going to make quite a dent to the wallet.
 

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My type is the Bond Girl or Victoria Secret types. In Montreal/Toronto with good exchange rates yippee ki yay. In NYC this is available but it is going to make quite a dent to the wallet.
Being from texas, that is totally my type. I love Latinas and Asians too but its just those Beach blonde girls, the Baywatch type of girls, tall curvy blondes, that you pine for and you have a lot more quality options in Canada compared to the other cities in the US with much better prices.. Also, the United States is so huge and diverse and something like New York City is totally different than the hobby scene in Texas, more so the smaller cities I would say.
 
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The laws, especially in Texas, make it a chore and risky. It is a felony charge now for solicitation in Texas for this harmless, mutually consensual fun and deters from the fun experience.
Man, whatever happened to them free-wheeling rednecks just not giving a fuck? That state used to be more laissez-faire in such regards back in the day to the best of my recollection, we're a far cry from "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas". It's always been a conservative state but in the "I mind my bidness, you mind your bidness" conservatism, which is why I've always liked it. If I were to hazard a guess, there's been a spike in cases of coyotes smuggling clandestine migrants across the border to make money in specifically this line of work, so there's a crackdown going on in order to put the screws to them, except they're going for the "spray & pray" approach as opposed to a precision strike.
 

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Man, whatever happened to them free-wheeling rednecks just not giving a fuck? That state used to be more laissez-faire in such regards back in the day to the best of my recollection, we're a far cry from "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas". It's always been a conservative state but in the "I mind my bidness, you mind your bidness" conservatism, which is why I've always liked it. If I were to hazard a guess, there's been a spike in cases of coyotes smuggling clandestine migrants across the border to make money in specifically this line of work, so there's a crackdown going on in order to put the screws to them, except they're going for the "spray & pray" approach as opposed to a precision strike.
For sure, they should go after the trafficking and leave consensual adults alone. But no , they wont because it is much more expensive to do it. Instead, they can set up and do a sting , catch a few folks who were just wanting to have some consensual fun , splash their photo all over in the news and ruin their lives and careers and have a press conference saying they are keeping the communities "safe" from all the "vices" lol ! In this day and age , cant believe it's a felony for Pete's sake ! Have only been to Vancouver before in Canada and had lots of fun. Not just seeing a couple providers but just enjoying the city as well, though I was there only for 2 days. This time , I am planning a whole week, the 3rd week of Nov and wanted to explore Montreal or Toronto and so was looking for some feedback !
 

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In a nutshell, MTL seems more agency focused, while TOR best options seem to be indy SP. Granted, Ive been to TOR twice, so Im not a seasoned pro by any means. Perhaps others came chime in
Toronto has a big agency scene, bigger than Montreal. The biggest agency there has over 100 girls on the roster. Whether the indies there are better choices is a matter of personal preference. But there are plenty of agencies, and just more variety in general (e.g., lots of European SPs compared to Montreal, more specialty agencies like Asian and fetish), at the cost of a more sprawling scene not as centrally located.

The agencies in Toronto also tend to offer more options than the Montreal ones. A lot of them offer 30 and 45 minute appointments for example. Some of them run loyalty clubs, like $100 off every 5th booking. They also will tend to run weekly schedules instead of a couple days out which makes planning easier.

Another big difference is there is a lot more price stratification within Toronto agencies, a "bronze" level escort might be $260/hr while a "platinum" level escort at the same agency might be $420/hr. Compare to Montreal, where only a handful of agency girls get significantly higher rates than their agency counterparts.

I’d give Toronto serious consideration if your primary interest is in seeing SPs as a traveler, not taking into account any other considerations.

You can check out the Terb board for more information too.
 

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Both cities are reliable hobby cities. Won’t disappoint.
 
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