VickyVix ...retired escort...practicing thief ??

[AceofSpades]

I was not sure where to post this but I have no choice but to warn all of you of a bad situation that happened to me a month ago.



I have seen Vicky Vix in the past and had nothing but great things to say about her...She was the type of girl you could fall in love with...very good at what she did on many levels.

I used to live in Montreal but have moved to the US and I am out of touch with the local hobby scene here in MTL...

I was back in town for a week a month ago...Not knowing that Vicky had posted that she was retired on her website...I emailed her about a meeting ( I still had her contact info saved on my smartphone )...she replied saying that she would love to see me and that she was now asking for a 50% deposit. As I mentioned, I have seen her before and we always had a great connection...we both grew up in the same town and knew people in common. So I trusted her.

We emailed and texted back and forth regarding the day and time, she wanted me to let her know when i made the deposit...

Made a $400 payment via paypal, emailed her to make sure she had received it...no answers...Paypal did confirm that she recieved and took the money.

I emailed her multiple times, calling her number also...no answers.

the day of our meeting came and went...still no answers or text...nothing...

As far as I know, Vicky was truly independant...she did not have a handler or anyone except a driver for safety reasons...

Maybe someone posed as her...


This is really disapointing that such a great star would do this for a mear $400...I'm a good judge of charactor and this really threw me off...I was so surprised with this behavior...to bad.


So be warned...

 

[sapman99]

At first sight, this sounds to me like identity theft. I have met Vicky a few times both agency and privately and I simply cannot see her doing this.

You say you texted with her also? At the original number or a new one? Email hijacking is common but cell phone?

You did the right thing posting here, perhaps some other people can contribute more info.

This will help unaware hobbyists and I am sure, help clear Vicky's reputation.

 

[AceofSpades]

Sapman99

yes well I am hoping that someone did jack her email...would make me feel better about the fond memories that I have of her...the number I have is the one she had 2-3 years back...

 

[EagerBeaver]

I would never have made a Pay Pal payment under these circumstances. There was a retirement announcement. I think it very likely the person your corresponded with was not Vicky. In the past I was on email lists of indies/agencies, my hobby email of course, and the address would get sold to another person.

If she never asked you for Pay Pal in the past and she did now that did not set off any red flags? Did you ask her why she never asked for Pay Pal when she was working, but was now doing so in retirement? Does this make any sense whatsoever?

You got scammed by someone who was not Vicky IMHO.

 

[sapman99]

the number I have is the one she had 2-3 years back...

That is disquieting... Can some more technically inclined people help us here to find out how easy-hard it is to hijack a phone number?

I wonder if it was not some "wise guy" who waited for the cell number to lapse and then registered it.

 

[AceofSpades]

Eager...

I mentioned on my post that I did NOT look at her website before, only after once I knew something was wrong...I had her contact info saved...why she would ask for a deposit? maybe she got tired of clients cancelling last minute ( in MTL it happens a lot ...in other cities a provider will blacklist you for cancelling less than 48h before )...who knows...the point is that I knew her ...and i'm sure that many regulars might have done the same...

 

[sigma69]

...the number I have is the one she had 2-3 years back...

Possible scenarios:

#1 -
VickyVix retires.
Sometime after, she changes her cell phone provider AND drops her old number and gets a new number.
Her old number returns to the pool of available numbers.
Vicky's old number is assigned to a new person.
New person is unscrupulous.
New person plays along with AceofSpades and extract the $$ from him.
This scenario assumes that AceofSpades' request was fairly direct and "explicit".

#2 - this one is more likely if her phone was a "pre-paid" one:
Vicky gives/sells/lends her old phone to a "friend" or acquaintance (who knows what her old profession was).
This "friend" understands what you are looking for and plays you along...

Just thinking aloud...

 

[sigma69]

Mods,

does this thread belong in the Reviews section....?? Lounge??
Thank you for your assistance.

 

[Mod 8]

Thread moved to Lounge and a redirect was left in the Review section which will expire in one week.

M8

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Possible scenarios:

The problem with both scenarios is that Ace has written that he both emailed AND texted her. The scammer would have had to have access to both her email account and phone.

 

[AceofSpades]

maybe some of you want to send her an email...posing as a regular...and validate the response. im sure whoever did this is did not have time to see this tread ...

 

[sigma69]

The problem with both scenarios is that Ace has written that he both emailed AND texted her. The scammer would have had to have access to both her email account and phone.

Not if Ace used an email just given to him by the scammer...
If Ace used an email he knew belonged to Vicky previously then, yes, you would be right.

 

[EagerBeaver]

maybe she got tired of clients cancelling last minute ( in MTL it happens a lot ...in other cities a provider will blacklist you for cancelling less than 48h before )...who knows...the point is that I knew her ...and i'm sure that many regulars might have done the same...

I suppose anything could have happened but I tend to discount the fact that she got tired of clients cancelling. Vicky was working on and off since 2006 or earlier. She was in the business for a LONG time. I am guessing I saw her back in 2006. She originally started at an agency, which no longer exists and I can't recall the name of it. Anyway she was in business for a long time. She knows how the indy business model works.

On the other hand, if the same person was using her email and text the likelihood is that it is Vicky or perhaps someone she was working with (or for). In other words, she wasn't really indy at all, and someone was behind her, and that someone controls her email, phone, and now, unfortunately, your money.

 

[joedoe88]

paypal --> dispute payment unless you just transferred 400 to her account that would be real dum. if its a transaction and theres a problem you can dispute it, if they dont answer you win by default and they get re-billed. probably unlikely the account got jacked because its always tied to someones bank account. might be too late after a month though

 

[sigma69]

paypal --> dispute payment unless you just transferred 400 to her account that would be real dum. if its a transaction and theres a problem you can dispute it, if they dont answer you win by default and they get re-billed. probably unlikely the account got jacked because its always tied to someones bank account. might be too late after a month though

Plus, I'd like to know how Ace would describe his reason for disputing the payment...escort service not provided ?
I believe Paypal has a policy against adult businesses. At least officially it is their policy, although I am sure they can't keep up with every single transaction.
Paypal is an American company. Escorting and/or employing the services of an escort is illegal in the USA.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I have never used Pay Pal but some years ago my credit card was stolen and I disputed several hundred dollars worth of charges that the thief rang up, in clothing stores I had never shopped at in Queens, NY. The credit card company made me sign an affidavit of some kind, I can't recall what it said exactly but I had to give my reasons for disputing the charges. I am not sure Ace wants to get into a dispute in this situation as it could lead to bigger problems than what he already has. I suppose he could argue that outcall escorting is legal in Montreal, but I am not really sure that would fly with the people at Pay Pal. Personally I would not go there. If I were Ace I would call it a day, call the $400 lost funds and chalk this one up as lessons learned.

 

[anon_vlad]

I wonder what would happen if you told PayPal you hired her to model (or perform some other service which is legal everywhere) and she never showed up.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Not if Ace used an email just given to him by the scammer...
If Ace used an email he knew belonged to Vicky previously then, yes, you would be right.

If you read his initial post, he started by emailing her. He later started texting to a phone number he already had.

She originally started at an agency, which no longer exists and I can't recall the name of it.

Candy's something or other.

On the other hand, if the same person was using her email and text the likelihood is that it is Vicky or perhaps someone she was working with (or for). In other words, she wasn't really indy at all, and someone was behind her, and that someone controls her email, phone, and now, unfortunately, your money.

This is the most plausible thing I've heard yet. As likely as not a loser (now) ex-boyfriend.

 

[Siocnarf]

Is there anything in the way her e-mails are written that could give a clue if it's realy her or someone else? Either in the style or writing or some details. Most the the escorts I've contacted by e-mails "sounded" different from each other in the way they communicated.

 

[sigma69]

If you read his initial post, he started by emailing her. He later started texting to a phone number he already had.

You are right. Me bad.

EagerBeaver's theory appears to be the most plausible explanation.

Unless, of course, Vicky just went rogue...