What happened to the VIP events?

[Halloween Mike]

Well maybe i have a different thing in mind than you. I mean i know your "first choice" may not be available, but i dunno how many guys and girls you talking about but if we were to be 5 dudes and 5 girls were coming over, its always possible to have a quick glance at their agency website and decide who goes with who and if there is guys who want the same girl, they do a draw or i dunno, rock paper scissor lol

My point is that there is always way to get a work around, and of course you want the girls to have some chemistry sure but ultimately you gonna sleep with these girls, you want to be to your liking as well. I wouldn't trust someone to organize a session entirely for me. And i know in your group maybe no implants were a preference of EVERYBODY but me personally i like them, and i would totally be cool to have a girl with them. So if there is one girl with implants, alright ill take her

Anyway obviously all of this depends on your budget and lenght too. I wouldn't see myself spend more than 30 mins in "social" , that to me feel like a waste of paid time. But if you have a lot of money, then this is another thing entirely, you may want to do 2h of social, 2h of fun or more. Whatever.

I would be more the kind of guy to call girls with 1 or 2 buddies, one for each, they get there, we talk to them maybe 15 mins, and then everybody goes in their room with them, stuff like that. Booking of 1h30 mins max...

 

[jalimon]

EB is having one way of doing such party. And it worked for him and his buddies.

I have done many group party. Most of the time the girl taught at first that they would select a guy and have fun with him but it never turned out that way. We always shared. It just came naturally. Most important factor is having girl that like each other. Do not try to pick a star team of SP as if they do not like each other it will ruin it all. There is of course some kind of natural selection because a girl may aroused you more then another. So yes you may spend more time with one. And/or you may spend more time with one with a buddy of yours A girl will like to receive a double daty from a guy and a girl at the same time (it's awsome) and/or you to receive a double bj... These were much fun. So much that I stopped entirely doing such party

Cheers,

 

[hungry101]

^^^ Yes, this certainly is one way to have a party but Jali, I think what we are talking about, and what Mike is referring to, is bringing back the old MERB GG/VIP parties which were classic events. There were girls from Toronto and girls that toured all of Canada and Hobbyists flew in from the USA and and it was party week which started on Wednesday with a pre-party on Thursday and the main event on Friday. In this thread we focus on the good things. I met lots of girls and my batting average with these girls was 1000 while booking them before, during, or after the event. I also met a lot of guys that like to do what I do. For the most part they were gentlemen that treated the ladies well and they were fun to socialize with on party week and after.

I don't know if we could ever duplicate these days (they say you can never go back) and maybe we shouldn't try but it sure was a good time and it made Montreal as a hobby destination much more fun and much more interesting.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The early GG parties were small and semi private events whereas the VIP parties became larger “MERB” events with multiple agencies being invited. Whether doing a small mini GT, an early GG type small group party, a larger VIP event, the most important thing is venue and location. I greatly admired Iggy’s venue choices for GG1 and GG2- those condos are still there as far as I know and theoretically anyone can do an agency party with the same venue. The fuckup with GG2 is that the owner/building super hadn’t been told of the party and there was a party restriction for that particular condo but my understanding from speaking to them myself (after being asked to do so) was that had they been made aware of the party an alternate condo elsewhere in the Building would have been provided. Hence party planning isn’t easy and requires a discreet location and discreet negotiations. Parties along the lines of the VIP events which were typically at large restaurant venues are much harder and time consuming to stage.

Unfortunately since the departure of Iggy nobody has stepped to the plate to try and emulate what he did. It wasn’t easy and I know it wasn’t easy because Iggy regularly emailed me about problems and issues he encountered in setting up these events and to exchange different ideas. As Joe T mentioned previously a lot of you have no clue how much time, effort and blood Iggy put in to these events. He and I spent countless hours emailing each other also including parties I never went to including the one that was “raided” and it’s aftermath. Iggy would often tell me about negotiations with venues that never went anywhere for one reason or another. On one of the parties Iggy was in serious negotiations with an Old Montreal location but that did not end up happening and I don’t recall why. Iggy had bounced many ideas off of me, and he thought very deeply about issues like location and venue and potential problems with security. It wasn’t mentioned but he had official security at some of the bigger parties and “informal security” at the smaller events. I do not believe anything he did could be easily replicated. You would need first of all someone preferably local and someone who understands party dynamics as well as Iggy did. He also had a team of people assisting him at the actual events as was also mentioned previously.

 

[jalimon]

I hear you Hungry. Never been to those parties but I am sure they helped shape up the eco-system a lot for Montreal.

Now what I am seeing more and more is the part-time mix SA mix twitter/instagram/email sp. Our veteran Cloudsurf has gone this way as a client. I see many girl using social network to advertise their work while at the same time using these system to vouch client. Ending up only seeing the one they accept to see. It's like being an part time indy but picking up your client à la SA. It can go to more extreme, for example I am currently seeing a girl that has never ever advertised on ANY web site... No add sites, no merb, no twitter...

There are great benefit to this new way of escorting but also some drawbacks. Price being the biggest one for me as they help driving the price up. Second would be the difficulty to book on short notice. Which is quite important for visitors (and for me). This could shape up Montreal very differently from what we've seen in the past 15 years or so.

Cheers,

 

[cloudsurf]

, for example I am currently seeing a girl that has never ever advertised on ANY web site... No add sites, no merb, no twitter...

Cheers,

Hey Jal are we seeing the same girl ? Ivey? . First time in the biz at 27 y.o.

 

[jalimon]

Hey Jal are we seeing the same girl ? Ivey? . First time in the biz at 27 y.o.

No no. I cannot provide details but it's part because of SA that I was able to hook up with my girl. But funny thing she's never been on SA

 

[Cruiser777]

Unfortunately since the departure of Iggy nobody has stepped to the plate to try and emulate what he did. .

Lets give credit where is due.

Jasmine of Unicorn tried one, although it was a big undertaking on her part but the end result was less then what we were used to
with the other VIP parties. (I think lots of people let her down so she didn't take the chance to try another one).

Although... Jasmin's / Unicorn Halloween party was very successful.
(High light of the night ?, I was greeted by Sonia at the door, didn't know her at the time, but became instant TDL)
The rest is history.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Cruiser777,

I was not talking about one offs. How many parties did Iggy organize and plan, between GG and VIP? I am guessing 15 or more over a span of 4 years? What I am talking about is someone coming along to fill the regular return engagement party. There have not been any successors. Elvis was succeeded by the Beatles and eventually the Beatles were succeeded by Michael Jackson. Elvis was not succeeded by The Surfaris. You are bringing up one hit wonders and I am talking about rock stars, guy. Iggy was, in the history of the Montreal escort party scene, Elvis.

Do you want this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBdTn3_0Rw

Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13yZAjhU0M

Cruiser, you would say the Surfaris succeeded Elvis? A 1 hit wonder to 13 years of prime rock and roll?

 

[Cruiser777]

I was not talking about one offs.

Can't take anything away from Iggy's accomplishments

All I said was lets give credit to the person that tried to continue the tradition but didn't workout.

Cruiser, you would say the Surfaris succeeded Elvis? A 1 hit wonder to 13 years of prime rock and roll?

Although the comparison is little off...but just for the hell of it I'm going with this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zVlS-oaQpo


PS: Regarding Iggy, if he hadn't organized the parties most probably some of us we wouldn't have the friendships we have now
and we would have never put a face on the MERB handles. So lots of credits to Iggy.

 

[d3beats]

What is the name of this hot ass chick?

 

[d3beats]

Can you guys elaborate on what these parties are and how one might get info/invited to them?

 

[Cruiser777]

Can you guys elaborate on what these parties are and how one might get info/invited to them?

Unfortunately no more parties like these are planned or happening.

These parties used to happen few years back where SPs (Agency girls, Indies), agencies and owners, sometime MPs, clients (Mostly MERB members) used to attend, meet the girls in person, get to know them, meet the boys, mingle, have few drinks, and generally have a good time.

 

[ShyMan]

Can you guys elaborate on what these parties are . . .

As you can tell from the previous posts on this thread, we all get together, read the Bible, listen to sermons, and get blessed by a Priestess. These GTs are very much like going to church on Sundays, and we sometimes sit by a bonfire, roast marshmallows and tell stories about our individual encounters with Jesus Christ, our Savior.

 

[EagerBeaver]

All I said was lets give credit to the person that tried to continue the tradition but didn't workout.

I did not go to that party, but I give her credit for trying. I thought it would be an uphill battle to do a series of parties like Iggy did, for anyone. Like I said earlier, outside of JoeT, Reverdy and a handful of others including myself, most of you do not know the full extent to which Iggy went in organizing and planning these parties. Whatever meager sum he made, if any, was not enough compensation for the blood labor he expended. I was his sounding board the entire time from the first of the GG parties he did to the last of the VIPs. When Iggy initially started emailing me about his ideas on the parties, I offered short and polite but uninterested replies. After I got to know Iggy and attended a few parties, I became impressed with his organizational skills, and his effort and enthusiasm. He would email me his ideas on new venues, and when one was chosen, I could sense the excitement and enthusiasm of challenge in the tone of his emails. It got to where I would come home and spend 4 hours emailing Iggy back and forth some nights. He bounced all kinds of things off me but I could tell that he had actually given a great deal of thought to everything before he ever asked my thoughts on anything. He would also very honestly tell me if he liked or didn't like any particular idea I would give him in these discussions. Sometimes it became point-counterpoint discussions until he figured out the best approach. He would make the decision and pull the trigger once he did with no second guessing or ambivalence.

One big turning point was when he started inviting MPs as well as escort agencies. I felt like that was the point when the VIP parties went to another level. Iggy used to email me who was coming from each place. There would always be a few no shows, and he would be extremely disappointed when they happened. But he got to the point where he knew what the attrition rate would be.

PS: Regarding Iggy, if he hadn't organized the parties most probably some of us we wouldn't have the friendships we have now
and we would have never put a face on the MERB handles. So lots of credits to Iggy.

Perhaps even more creditworthy is he managed to invite people who absolutely hated each other to the same party- knowing of their mutual animosity - yet the hostile to each other participants would silently coexist and put aside their differences for the common good. Iggy never let these kinds of issues sidetrack him from inviting people who he thought would make good company for the invited guests. He also was not afraid to "lay down the law" and disinvite a few people from parties, in one case a guy at GG3 who got rough with the girls in private and they complained to Mike, in another case a guy who approached some escorts with a "savior complex", unnerving them and causing complaints. That latter person was spoken to about his misbehavior and, eventually, reinvited with restrictions. I respected the heck out of him for all of the above, even though truthfully Iggy and I were not really friends and I was never really in his inner circle. Outside of the parties, I do not think I ever socialized with him.

 

[greygoose]

Can't take anything away from Iggy's accomplishments



PS: Regarding Iggy, if he hadn't organized the parties most probably some of us we wouldn't have the friendships we have now
and we would have never put a face on the MERB handles. So lots of credits to Iggy.

SO TRUE..


I still get together with some of you which I enjoy..

 

[Halloween Mike]

Its true as i said before i don't know everything about findind a venue, never did it myself in a place like Montreal. But i don't understand why it would be "so complicated". You don't have to mention its an escort party... It could be anything. Personally i would try to go with a venue that is PRIVATE, as in "no staff provided by the house". Simply renting a room. The only complicated aspect with that is the alchool. Cause if you sell alchool then you are technically illegal. Thus why i think a "BYOB" approach, or lets say "an all inclusive fee" is probably the best thing. Obviously you don't make as much money if peoples bring their own stuff, but i wouldn't be in to make money...

I think the most complicated things is actually to have the girls commit to come. As you mention Beav there is always peoples that will cancel. The most succesfull parties are the ones where the most girls attended. This is what bring peoples the most, putting new faces on your "list", and gauging if you will match with them in person, even tough seeing girls you get along and enjoy to be with is always pleasant.

Im not in the shoes of anyone who tried a party obviously, so i can't say what they had in mind vs what was delivered.

And altough you mention Beav that Iggy threw a lot of parties, and its true, i think ultimately it may have been too much at some point. Only speaking for myself there. But lots of the guest were not locals and could only come so often in Montreal. I think 1 every 6 months could very well be enough, but as i said, make it a BIG ONE.

Ultimately finding a good venue and assuring yourself that most of the guests show up i think is the most complicated aspect. You can always have guys pre-pay (Iggy did it once for sure) but with the girls, since its free for them, i dunno really how to make sure they show up. Ask for a refundable deposit? lol. Ultimately if guys don't show up but paid, i don't think its as much an issue as if girls don't show up

Honestly im serious when i say i would be open to devote myself into planning one. Im not a "local Montrealer" but i not far enough that anything can be a big issue (im in Quebec...). But it NEED a big agency to be the "attraction" and provide AT LEAST 8 to 10 girls IMO. Wich is not that huge when you look at the size of the rosters of the current big 3 agencies. Add to that the indies, maybe some agencies that could get 1 or 2 girls, and you could have a pretty solid ammount of guest.

From what im understanding in this thread, the "core" of merb would like another party. The question is, does the workers think they need it? If they are fully booked all the time (be it agencies and indies) then the answer will be no...

But obviously there is a lot of different levels of parties. What im speaking mostly is a fairly big merb party. If an agency want to throw a 20 to 25 guy "smaller party", they don't need me for that obviously.

On a side note, not a lot of us speak of the Mojo party because by the end this agency was well known to be "shady" and ultimately they caused their own demise. But gotta admit the only party they did was pretty kick ass. It was costly from what i heard to rent that, but it had so much cool stuff in it including a jacuzzi !! Altough i was not among the "choosen ones" to be able to go with the girls in it or even near it (only big clients were allowed) i managed to pinch a few eye shot at some of the girls (even saw one topless) and it looked amazing.

So thats why ultimately renting a house with a pool would be an amazing venue for a party... But i know this would cost a fair share so depend if the guys wanna pay for it or not. Cause a bigger, more glamourous party could be awesome, but a smaller, more intimate party where you simply meet the ladies and talk to them can also "serve its purpose". I know that some of you guys are older too, so maybe im fantazing too much with that pool idea.

Ultimately the choice would be yours anyway.

 

[Tiger1]

I've been away from this hobby for number of years now, but I did enjoy meeting lot of fellow MERBites at the VIP parties Iggy organized. I'd be interested in coming back to Montreal if new and better parties are planned. :canada:

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

As you can tell from the previous posts on this thread, we all get together, read the Bible, listen to sermons, and get blessed by a Priestess. These GTs are very much like going to church on Sundays, and we sometimes sit by a bonfire, roast marshmallows and tell stories about our individual encounters with Jesus Christ, our Savior.

Haha “these GTs are very much like going to church on Sundays” . @d3beats as someone who is an expert in Churches I would say that my friend Shyman’s comparison is spot on ,,, yup just a bunch of amateur theologians talking about the “good book “ which is a pretty good read by the way , the mysteries of the world and the glory of god . And of course Jesus Christ our saviour , a pretty cool guy if you ask me since he could walk on water , raise the dead and the most impressive, something that I wish I could also do , he could turn water into wine and therefore make any GT or party a success haha

here’s a quote from the bible below since we are talking about church
“ whatsoever thy hand findeth to do , do it with thy might , for there is no work , nor device , nor knowledge , nor wisdom , IN THE GRAVE , whither thy goest “ Ecclesiastes 9:10
Basically , we have no time in which to live but the present and we should not wait until tomorrow ,,, life is short “ do it with thy might “ , and don’t forget to have a good time once in a while

P.s. Times change and things change that’s the only constant in life ,,, the Montreal escort scene landscape doesn’t have these great GTs anymore partly because a gifted party organizer left the scene and the agencies in general don’t really need the exposure anymore
But it is evident from reading most people’s posts here how nostalgic they where of these GTs ,,, they sounded like a lot of fun and who knows maybe one day Halloween Mike csn pick up where Iggy left offf , everything is possible . He’s intelligent enough , is definitely trustworthy and most importantly he’s passionate about them which is the most vital

 

[EagerBeaver]

But i don't understand why it would be "so complicated".

Primarily for reasons of discretion and privacy. The VIPs were held in public restaurants. First you need a restaurant with a liquor license and the private space apart from the restaurant proper suitable to accomodate the crowd. You may recall that Iggy had a bartender serving drinks. Bartenders need to be paid (and therefore deals need to be struck with them on what their tips will be), and you also need to have an open bar that does not interfere with the restaurant's regular normal guests and bar. No commingling. For this reason you need a restaurant with a separate catering area and an area where the bartender can set up independent of the actual restaurant. In other words a makeshift bar has to be created, unless the private catering area already has one. Iggy found 2 such locations that I recall and which were relatively ideal. The second of the two also offered appetizers/hor's douevres to the guests, which were good. My recollection is that the upstairs of one had its own bar, and at the other a makeshift bar was created.

The Lord Berri GG parties were smaller scale but had their own challenges, such as hotel guests commingling with party attendees. Once a hotel guest finds out what the party is about, you do not want him or her causing a problem. What if you booked a hotel party and forgot to check their conference schedule to note that the "Feminists Against Prostitution" conference was scheduled at the hotel that same weekend? Would you think to check the hotel conference schedule, Mike? Because if you invited a ton of escorts and that FAP conference was the same weekend, it would not be good.

Iggy would send me emails detailing his party planning efforts and he covered all of these kinds of issues.