What Is The Proper Discount on a 4 hour Booking?

[EagerBeaver]

I realize some or most of you MERBistes are strict 1 hour booking or pound sand type guys. This thread involves the very basic question of what is fair on a 4 hour dinner booking of a $200 per hour lady.

The driver gets $20 on a $200 booking. If he drives the lady to a 4 hour booking, he makes one drop, only gets $20, and the agency does not collect another $60 for him as they would on 4 1 hour bookings, so it seems $800-$60=$740 is where the conversation should begin. From there, what sum do you think is fair to the client, the lady and the agency, if the 4 hour date should involve dinner, and then perhaps 1.5 hours of sexual activity (2.5 hour of social time)?

Clients, ladies, and agency owners are all welcome to respond. What is the number that is fair to ALL parties - client, agency, and lady? Again, the lady is $200 per hour. The date is 4 hours. Dinner and drinks are included, which goes without saying. What is the number, and why is it fair?

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

This is a tough one, Beav, as there are more variables here than there are holes in the Yankee lineup. Let's start with the assumption that the young woman is getting 120$ of the 200$ fee.

1. What if the lady actually prefers the time in the bedroom to spending time in a restaurant with a client. Should the client have to pay a surcharge for asking her to dine with him?

2. What if the client is an ungodly bore? Should she be compensated above and beyond the 120$ for enduring listening to him ramble on and on about his new Samsung Whatever?

3. What if the client is absolutely hideous? Should she be compensate above and beyond the 120$ for appearing in public with a man twice her age and 250 lbs. overweight?

4. What if she's a native Montrealer? Should she be compensated above and beyond the 120$ for the risk of being seen in public with a client both boring and grotesque by someone she knows?

None of this is cut and dry.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Let's assume the client is not hideous nor boring - just a regular guy. Let's also assume the lady does not mind social time and does not mind being seen out with the client who is a regular appropriately dressed for the occasion client. Just want a guess as to what is fair.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I dunno, there is discount sometimes for 2 hours booking but they are usually 20$ or not much more...

So a 4 hour dinner date? I dunno... if the lady would see 4 clients during this time, she would get 800$, now would she see really 4 guy during that time? Maybe not... Since she is with the same guy, no traveling and such...

Then she may not have to fuck all 4 hour long, but she still does "work" per say, so is there really something as discount because its not a sex only "date".

The question is really hard to answer... I guess you can deal with the lady if she is independant and see what she may offer you. If its an agency girl, you can deal with the owner but i assume unless you are a regular clients you won't get much of a big discount...

Would i be the owner of the agency, i would simply discount you the driver fees... i think it would be fair as he dosen't get paid by the hour, but by the call... Girl would still get everything and as the booker i would maybe cut my cut a little by to the profit of the lady.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Well, you know as well as I, Beav, that what is fair is what the market will bear and what the client is willing to pay. You're talking agency here, but as you well know, many indies advertise that their obscene (to me) rates are non-negotiable. I wonder just how true that is on a slow Tuesday in January after she's just returned from a less than lucrative trip to Edmonton and the rent's due on Friday.

My point, both here and in the previous post, is that there is no "fair" here. It's what she can get and, at the same time, what you can get her for.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

So a 4 hour dinner date? I dunno... if the lady would see 4 clients during this time, she would get 800$, now would she see really 4 guy during that time?.

The answer, of course, is no. Even if she's fully booked, she's going to lose at least 90 minutes sitting in the car while another girl is being delivered, waiting for the driver, waiting for another girl to come out from a booking, etc.

Personally, I've never had a dinner date with an agency girl. I have had dinner with indies and I have a strict personal policy that I do not pay for that time. If she enjoys my company and doesn't expect to be paid for a eating a good meal in good company, she accepts my invitation. My invitations have been accepted and they've been refused, never with any hint of hard feeling on my part. Her choice.

 

[hungry101]

I wonder about the booker's fee. Lets say they make 40$/girl on an hour date. If you book for a 4 hour date the booker only has to make one appointment. This is 1/4 the work. However, if the booker can hustle they are going to book that girl 2 to 3 times and under optimum conditions, 4 times during those four hours. This is 80$, 120, or 160$? How much is the booker going to leave on the table. My flat out guess is that the booker would take anywhere from 80-120 to make that booking.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Lets say they make 40$/girl on an hour date.

Unless the booker's the owner, you're off by about 30$. You DO NOT want this job.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am hoping some agency owners or bookers chime in..............

 

[hungry101]

I would be interested to see this. However, In business it is never good to put your cards out on the table My guess is that they will not want to reveal their cost structure. but they may shoot you a number?

Rumps - Yes, I was thinking the booker is the owner.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

There is a SP on this site Sidney LaFlamme who has a dinner option, I think about 5 hrs for $700. I would take her up on it but with our opposing views on torturing terrorists we would have nothing to taslk about. There was a SP ( indy ) I used to see a long time ago who did not charge for dinner time, clock started when we got back to the hotel. As for agencies giving you a deal it would not be very much and a before dinner encounter would be necessary. You could probably work with a indy if you both got along, get her on a off night, nice dinner at Gibbys and back to a hotel.

 

[gugu]

From a purely economic perspective, there should be a much more important rebate than simply the driver.

Let’s suppose the agence takes 80, the girl 100 and the driver 20.
Let’s suppose a good night is 4 clients.
Let’s suppose, the girl could eassily service a second client that night for an hour.

The agency can give you a rebate of 40$ because there is less work for them when you book 4 hours.

The girl could easyly offer you a 100$ rebate because the meeting is less draining for her because there is less sex.

At the end of the night, she will be making the same as a good night : 400. But It will be an easy night seing only 2 clients.

The agency will make 370, more then the same good night with her.

A fair price, IMHO, would be 600, a 200 rebate.


Seriously, rumple, you think a girl would prefer to service 4 clients for a hour each then servicing only 2 and spending an hour and a half in a good restaurant, lunch paid ?

 

[Rod Blagojevich]

If the girl is good looking but gives crappy service it is a real downer, most of the time they expect the beauty to make up for everything else.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Rod: And what does that have to do with this thread?

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am still kind of hoping that an agency owner would put their 2 cents into the thread, but someone said something about putting their cards on the table, and I realize maybe it is dangerous to negotiate against oneself. So I deleted what I said earlier and to that person I say yeah, don't put the cards on the table, but on the other hand there are gut feelings of what MIGHT be fair.

I did once pay $800 for a 5 hour dinner date with a wildly popular SP back in 2007, whom I saw on the cusp of when she first became wildly popular. I threw that offer out there because I knew that girl was going to be very popular and I knew that she was not bookable in advance, during Jazz Festival, and maybe not at all unless she was advance booked for a long date. It's the only time I booked 5 hours. I was only in town for a few days and did not want to miss out. I had an OK time but the mistake was I had never met her and although she was hot, she was not really my type as far as socially/personality wise - no personal chemistry. I can think of other ladies I could have spent that time with.........one thing I learned through the years is chemistry is there or not, and if not, 5 hours becomes 5 hours, but if it is there, 5 hours is like a second.

The other thing is you can throw an offer out there, and if the agency or girl says no, you can ALWAYS say fuck it and do something else. So I am not going to lose sleep over it. But at the same time I am curious as to what everyone thinks would be fair, all things considered.

I actually prefer longer bookings but only with ladies I have met which is why chemistry ain't going to be an issue this time.

 

[Merlot]

...what sum do you think is fair to the client, the lady and the agency, if the 4 hour date should involve dinner, and then perhaps 1.5 hours of sexual activity (2.5 hour of social time)?ady is $200 per hour. The date is 4 hours.

Hello all,

I've done this a number of times with different ladies. The rate one lady charged me for about four hours with dinner was $400, for another lady it was $450 up to 2009. Add in about $50 in each case for a tip. Sometimes we also went to the very expensive Vieux-Port de Montreal area. Obviously these were special connection cases.

But realistically, based on the general question regardless of the client, I would say a discount rate between 10-15% each repeat hour is pretty fair, totaling somewhere around $700 max for 4 hours. But quite a cut less for only 1.5 hours of physical sensuality and sex.

I love conversation, but not for an extra $300-400. :nono:

Good luck,

Merlot

 

[Lily from Montreal]

I am with Rumple (of course ) loll and Sidney on that one.
I do not offer dinner date per se but I did break my own rule a few time (there is such a thing as favorite loll) but dinner or shopping or whatever that do not involve a bed and naked bodies is off the clock, I just don't expect to pay the restaurant tab loll ...

 

[erotq]

10-15% makes sense to me

 

[pyjama guy]

I'm with Rumple as well. I'm charming, engaging, handsome, etc,lol so what sp wouldn't want to enjoy a free dinner with me at one of montreal's finest? I gladly pay for dinner and the clock only starts when we get back to my place. In fact, I have plans with one of my long time favs tomorrow night. You can meet us at Gibby's around 7:00 lol. As for the question at hand, I almost always take 1 hour appointments. I have done a few 2 hour sessions but they are reserved for special women and I've never done 4 hours, I do have a hobbying budget that I strictly adhere to with rare exceptions. My view is around $700 would be fair if it's all action.

 

[Merlot]

llo all,

Rod: And what does that have to do with this thread?

Some of the gentlemen were talking about the character and manner of the client in this equation of the value of a meeting. Why not the same rationale for the lady. We can presume for the purpose of the original question about rate discounts that the escort is very good in every element of the encounter and the client is what the escort can normally expect to deal with. But in reality there are variables on both sides, and I thought dealing with that here also was just fine.

A fair price, IMHO, would be 600, a 200 rebate.

As I`ve said, 700 would be max for 4 hours with a top notch lady. But I`ve heard from reliable friends that some of the most stellar ladies ever to work in Montreal gave significant rebates for extra hours. Even though that scenario might be on the more unusual side gugu`s reasoning seems very solid and $600 could be very doable.

Though it might not be the case all of the time, any lady who insists on maintaining her rate steadily without a discount for extra hours seems suspiciously narrow minded. I`d wonder immediately how much her hard business attitude was reflected in the encounter experience with her in a calculating way...ie...lacking a real companion touch.

...I did break my own rule a few time (there is such a thing as favorite loll) but dinner or shopping or whatever that do not involve a bed and naked bodies is off the clock,...

I was lucky enough with some ladies to enjoy this shopping, lunch or dinner, seeing some sights off the clock. It was offered to me either after a couple of meetings or many exchanges in which we clicked pretty well. In one case we did some of this every time we met. In one case my good friend met a young black escort years ago (no longer working) with a great body who stayed in the room for 5 hours at a total cost of only $450.
There was a lot of conversation but equally as much sex. Of course I`m talking about a very rare case.

To the point...ladies are entitled to what clients will pay, but it shows a good attitude and business sense to offer discounts for extended visits. The discount doesn`t have to be big like the aberrations above. However, the opposite of being too rigid about rates comes off to me as a warning not to call.

I`m charming, engaging, handsome, etc,lol so what sp wouldn`t want to enjoy a free dinner with me at one of montreal`s finest?

You`ve never thought of charging them for all that? Just kidding PG...I`m sure you`re wonderful.

Good luck to all,

Merlot