HM, you took the words right out of my mouth on this part lol..after taking care of business at home (i.e. making sure family/close friends are taken care of) I would head straight to Montreal and look for a place to buy and then stay for several weeks myself hahaI think you confuse being rich and not caring to being generous. If i won the loto last night, you can be sure the first thing i would do after cashing in would be to get in mtl and have myself a 2 or 3 weeks of pleasure time. Would i care about prices? Of course not lol
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I think there are two classes of clients who negotiate, one is the out and out cheapasses who don't want to pay full value and want sex for nothing, and the other is the clients who are used to dealing with independent ladies they meet at hotel bars or other venues, who will negotiate a price because the date includes social time and/or a party. I have brought a few American friends to Montreal, and these guys are experienced in the USA and see higher end SPs, but what they are used to is negotiating with indy escorts for a 3 or 4 hour small social party of which private time is just a part of what is going on, as they are also providing social time and drinking with the guys and doing other stuff like maybe a striptease. There appropriately should be a negotiation for such activities which include a longer date, party, drinks and food purchased by the clients. I have told these guys, on our trips to Montreal, that I will negotiate a deal with the agency that includes one price for each girl for each guy for the entire 3 or 4 hours, but once that deal is done, there is NO FURTHER NEGOTIATING. The issue then becomes, in that situation, what if the client wants CIM or Greek from the girl once she is in his room after the party is over. We actually have not had this issue come up, because usually when a girl gets a 3 or 4 hour paid gig and most of the time is spent partying, she is happy to provide great service. All of this is common sense, and I have negotiated deals for me and 5-6 different friends on different trips but it is one lump sum per guy per girl. In these situations you are paying for someone to essentially party with you the entire time. The only problem in negotiating is that if it's a busy Friday or Saturday night in which the girls would be booked anyway, you are not going to get too much of a discount nor should you expect one.
In a one on one situation when dealing with agencies, I had to explain to them the agency or girl's rate is what it is, and there is no negotiation and they abided by that. But on the multi hour gigs, I did all the negotiating and the guys were happy with the deals I struck and they all abided by the deals. I also told them if they didn't abide by the deals I made with the agency, they would never see me negotiate or contact anyone on their behalf again, so they understood they had to play by the rules agreed to by me and the agency.
In a one on one situation when dealing with agencies, I had to explain to them the agency or girl's rate is what it is, and there is no negotiation and they abided by that. But on the multi hour gigs, I did all the negotiating and the guys were happy with the deals I struck and they all abided by the deals. I also told them if they didn't abide by the deals I made with the agency, they would never see me negotiate or contact anyone on their behalf again, so they understood they had to play by the rules agreed to by me and the agency.
It would be amusing to see a down charge, minus X amount for DATY or making her cum. Women sure rule the planet when it comes to sex, if it was reversed and the women had to pay for sex, men were able to go to a pub and get free drinks, choose if a lady was lucky enough to have sex with us, what a pleasant reversal it would be, I imagine there is the 1% that it happens to but I am not near that bracket. Basically any woman can go out at night and get laid if she wants to, may not get the Brad Pitt type but they will get laid and perhaps a few free drinks, men not so much.
Very much appreciate the ladies who escort, not a job many can do well ( some do not but enough do ).
For up charges I do not require any, basic GFE with BBBJ is all I require, not into anal and CIM is nice ( if done right ) but will not pay extra, COF... really.
Just my opinion.
What do you say to the girl telling you to do greek in the middle of the action and then beg you to cim, then at settlement asks 100$ extra cause of cim and greek ? You like wtf, right ? Didn't happen to me but within my circle of friends. Luckily he had the extra in his wallet. He did pay it but guess what ? No more same girl !
it's a double sided sword. The hobby isn't like it used to be before.
it's a double sided sword. The hobby isn't like it used to be before.
If it's not discussed. But whether or not there would be some extra fee absolutely should be disclosed, because if it's impliedly gratuitous, most clients will "jump on" that offer.
Yes i agree with you EB, i like everything up front and i don't like surprises but living in quebec theres always a surprise, not like in the states, in the states if an attorney,dentist,auto parts store etc etc says its 300$ its 300$ and not a penny more, but nooooooooooooooo not in quebec, so many times i ask how much just to get the bill and its more, taxes, extra fees and what ever else they want to tack on.
Ok, sorry got off track, i have not had the menu read to me to many times and i never ask whats offered and i never go for extras, if something happens in the heat of the moment then it happens, no lady ever said afterwards that will be 100$ more. I guess i have been lucky enough with the ladies that they were having a great time and it was voluntary on their part, just my tooney plus tax here in quebec...
Thor Jr
Im not much into anal, but yeah if she ask for it, i wouldn't refuse... lol I wouldn't pay 100$ extra for this. Maybe 50$ if i am REALLY into the girl, like a lot and im really craving it that day with that particular person. But if she "ask for it" or take the D and put it there herself, then i don't expect to pay an upcharge.
I only done Anal 2 times, both where free or "in the package" if i can say. First time was nice, there was like the discovery of it, how it felt, she wasn't the hottest SP i saw, even at the time when i had seen only maybe 7 or so, and she didn't had that small cute ass the spinners have, but it was the first time it was included and i wanted to try it. Second time again same as first time exept it wasn't the novelty again, but since it was free i asked for it and she agreed but then it didn't go too well. With the first girl we started slow and then eventually got at normal pace, but with the second girl everytime i would pick up the paste she was looking lalmost in pain and made weird faces, clearly not arousing. Weird thing is she was supose to be a specialist of it and im really not big at all... maybe she just didn't wanted to do it and it was her way of making it last less time. In any case sometimes i think maybe its because of that day that im not into it much now. Maybe one day ill try again.
Oh but this actually remind me of something. I did had a situation similar as your friend A128. I had asked if the girl had any restrictions, if there was something she didn't wanted to do. If i remember correctly she mentioned she was not into anal, didn't wanted too much hair pulling, i said ok cool so i tough she was ok with cim so i let it go when it was time. So when it happened she didn't kept it long, barely had time to finish and she ran to the bathroom. She was mad. Asked for an extra but i didn't had it on me. The thing is unlike goodgirls in the days where it was clearly listed cim = 40$ that agency had nothing on it and reviews pretty much mentioned she was ok with it. I had ask her restrictions before. In any case lets just say the session didn't go too well. I pretty much paid 200$ for 10 mins of chat and 10 mins of blowjob. With how much time was left i could definately had go for round 2. Whole situation felt awfull. You see i was shy and it was hard for me to ask things by there name. Thats why i would say "do you have restrictions" or "is it ok if i go for the extra". I don't know to me it felt more "gentlemen" in a way. But since that day and what happened, i took it on me to ask things by there name :/ Anyway im not that shy anymore, even tough im still shy a bit. I would say it depend on the girl. When she is friendly, fun to talk to, i loose much more the shyness, but if she is "too reserved" or shy herself even maybe, then its harder for me to click.
Anyway sorry if i got a bit off topic lol.
Oh i so agree with you Thor for taxes, this is probably the thing i hate the most in general while i go shopping. I understand what taxes are for and im not against them at all, but WHY IN THE UNHOLLY HELL THERE NOT ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE PRICE !!!
There is a few places i got to where taxes where included in price and its so much better. A restaurant in MTL comes to mind. Or on the Sony Playstation store actually all ammounts are with taxes, so if it cost you 10$ its 10$, unlike the microsoft store where its always "+ taxes". Since i often go with pre-paid cards with round ammount (for exemple 25$) then not only does it fuck my ammounts and i always end up with a couple $ left, but also if i want to buy lets say 3 games at 7.99$ well i can't ... it will go over. So i got to calculate everything before purchasing and it such an annoyance.
I feel the same for beer in bars and tips. I hate so much that you pay and then they give you back your change then you have to hand over another 1$. Takes more time and annoyance for nothing. Just put that 1$ in the overall price, so if i give a 10$ then i just get my change back and can put that in the pocket right away.
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