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Will the US get involved with the Hamas attack on Israel?

Will the US get involved with the Hamas attack on Israel?

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CaptRenault

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No need for direct U.S. involvement. Just keep Israel well supplied with any of its needs.
 

minutemenX

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No need for direct U.S. involvement. Just keep Israel well supplied with any of its needs.
US direct involvement is very probable if Iran attacks Israel with long-range drones, rockets, and troops already in Syria. In this case we may witness joint US-Israeli air campaign against Iran.
 
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mauricevachon

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US direct involvement is very probable if Iran attacks Israel with long-range drones, rockets, and troops already in Syria. In this case we may witness joint US-Israeli air campaign against Iran.

Will the US get involved with the Hamas attack on Israel?​

America finances Israeli apartheid state w. billions per year.

Israel built 30' walls around all major Palestinian population areas, cutting them from food, travel, water.

Palestinians treated like dogs and farm animals.
 

No Mercy

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They are already involved. Hamas is using US fighter jets. Wonder how they got those.
 

CaptRenault

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They are already involved. Hamas is using US fighter jets. Wonder how they got those.
You call these “U.S. Fighter jets?” :D Must be the new “Wright Brothers” fighter. :D

 

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Rooting out Hamas terrorists from Gaza is a crazily difficult task - nobody in the US military command would ever consider such a venture.

Building a 8 lane highway to Hawaii would be easy in comparison.
 
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minutemenX

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Rooting out Hamas terrorists from Gaza is a crazily impossible task - nobody in the US military command would ever consider such a venture.

Building a 8 lane highway to Hawaii would be easy in comparison.
I think it is doable and the plan like this can work:

Stage one: put pressure on population by introducing a complete blockade (practically done)

Stage two: after a couple weeks of conditioning open safe routs to designated places in Gaza (cordoned by Israelis) and to Egypt for women and children only. Separate men who want to leave in filtration camps and investigate everybody towards connection with Hamas.

Stage 3: simultaneously with the stage 2, build tent cities with the help from outside donors to house civils for about 6 months.

Stage 4: After most of civilians left, introduce a double ring complete blockade on the remaining of Gaza.

Stage 5: Let Hamas fighters rot for a few months without electricity, water, food and under constant harassment by aerial bombardment, drones and snipers.

Stage 6: Clean up the remaining resistance pockets with special forces methodically going from sector to sector for a couple of months.

Stage 7: Spray all territory first with a disinfectant and then with a deodorant.

Stage 7: Put every penny going from international donors to all Palestinian territories under supervision of a special international body that will oversee all spending as well as re-building and the general economic development of Palestinian territories. Confiscate all weapons, dismantle local police, and create international police force to keep the order.

Stage 8: After ten years of rebuilding, development, and re-education under revised school curriculums hold first municipal elections.

Stage 9: After 20 years hold general elections and referendums.
 
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nothinghere

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Stage two: after a couple weeks of conditioning open safe routs to designated places in Gaza (cordoned by Israelis) and to Egypt for women and children only. Separate men who want to leave in filtration camps and investigate everybody towards connection with Hamas.

Stage 3: simultaneously with the stage 2, build tent cities with the help from outside donors to house civils for about 6 months.
Probably between Stage 2 and 3:
Delay gaza invasion to build up missile defence system.

Israel agrees to U.S. request to delay Gaza invasion- WSJReutershttps://www.reuters.com

"The U.S. military and other officials believe their forces will be targeted by militant groups once Israel launches its ground invasion"
The way this is written they seem to hint Gaza invasion will happen at some point.
These new missile systems are not the usual patriot missiles for Hamas fireworks.
"Terminal High Altitude Area Defense" missiles.
These mach 8 whatever missiles capable of interception in the earth's Stratosphere!!??
No Hamas gunmen nor Hamas firework rockets in Stratosphere.
At what stage the hypersonic missiles start flying who knows.
The Black Swan will appear again.
 
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Fradi

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The US is always involved.
Who is supplying the weapons and the money would you like to take just one guess.
 
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minutemenX

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The US is always involved.
Who is supplying the weapons and the money would you like to take just one guess.
Being the world superpower US have interest practically everywhere and thus takes sides and is trying to defend own interests in all significant conflicts by providing weapons, money etc. It is no brainer to state this obvious fact. What is debated here is direct involvement of US troops in combat. This US has been trying to avoid in Ukraine and I believe in Israel too. But unlike in Ukraine, where nukes are in the play, US, I believe, is ready to take direct combat role in the Middle East if such actors as Iran get directly involved.
 
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Being the world superpower US have interest practically everywhere and thus takes sides and is trying to defend own interests in all significant conflicts by providing weapons, money etc. It is no brainer to state this obvious fact. What is debated here is direct involvement of US troops in combat. This US has been trying to avoid in Ukraine and I believe in Israel too. But unlike in Ukraine, where nukes are in the play, US, I believe, is ready to take direct combat role in the Middle East if such actors as Iran get directly involved.
I think your post is OK but we should not limit the discussion to "What is debated here is direct involvement of US troops in combat."
The original title of this thread is: Will the US get involved with the Hamas attack on Israel?

It's clear US is already involved.
Blinken is in Israel for a third time since less than 1 month and US will give additional billions to Israel. Also USA has a war ship in the sea and is riposting to attacks on his troops in Irak, those attacks being directly linked to the Hamas-Israel conflict. Will there be US troups on ground in Gaza? I doubt it... But elsewhere? Probably some tactical commandos in the region. They can send missiles anywhere from their big destroyer... and using their jets fighters.

Notice that I did not use the term Palestinians... Those are hostages of Hamas. Of course, since years Israel always extended its land by sending colons in Cis-Jordanie... I have no clue how and when it will finish but I'm very upset about all that situation that Iran is also exploiting to establish its radical religious Islamic regime. I'm not optimistic at all for the geopolitical situation in this region for the next 10 years. Saoudi Arabia may play a role as they need some kind of stability to continue cashing petro-dollars for their development. They speak on two sides of their mouth wanting not to hurt USA, neither other arabs countries. Turkey plays the same nasty game... We are getting in a very trouble world.

During this time Russia and China are playing games to take control of Africa. What's going on? What will the future be made of?
 

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During this time Russia and China are playing games to take control of Africa. What's going on? What will the future be made of?
Overlay it with the war in Ukraine that has no end in sight, China’s slow move to the open dictatorship, deterioration of US governing elite, impotence of European and Canadian politics, fake ideals of the western liberal society that is fighting "windmills” instead of addressing obvious problems and you have recipe for disaster not just in the Middle East but in the world at large. The Middle East is a potent fuse, but by no means the only one.
 
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nothinghere

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These mach 8 whatever missiles capable of interception in the earth's Stratosphere!!??
No Hamas gunmen nor Hamas firework rockets in Stratosphere.
At what stage the hypersonic missiles start flying who knows.
How Israel shot down ballistic missile -- in space!

"what is believed to be the first combat ever to take place in space."
"hypersonic interceptor to take out incoming missiles in space."

Launched from Yemen? F
New actors everyday!?
 
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