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Halloween Mike

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I really tough she stoped on the side, but on the left side of it.. instead of right, but she really stoped right in the middle of the highway? Now ok i do understand now why people are upset about her... She should had go to the side... I just tough she was find guilty because of behind on the side, but on the WRONG side...
 

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I really tough she stoped on the side, but on the left side of it.. instead of right, but she really stoped right in the middle of the highway? Now ok i do understand now why people are upset about her... She should had go to the side... I just tough she was find guilty because of behind on the side, but on the WRONG side...

Has anyone actually been at the location where this accident happened?
Or at least saw a picture?

I assume there was no median and also no left emergency stopping lane to pull off onto as is the case with many Quebec highways.
 

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Guys,

Has anyone actually been at the location where this accident happened?
Or at least saw a picture?

I assume there was no median and also no left emergency stopping lane to pull off onto as is the case with many Quebec highways.

If you look at my previous post quoting the article report the ducklings were in the "median". If there hadn't been one I don't see how it would make any possible difference to the insanity of stopping in front of traffic in the high speed lane.

I'm an animal lover also, but the lives of ducks over humans...NEVER. When I came back from Montreal the last time I had just crossed the border back into the U.S.A. just South of Highgate in Vermont. Traveling at about 73 MPH I was just passing a car when I saw a bird standing in my lane just ahead. As I approached I noticed it was a dove and expected it to fly off before I got to it. It didn't. I did the smart thing. I decided not to risk my life or that of the other driver by swerving one way or the other toward the other car or into the median ditch. The dove was killed, unfortunately, but two people went on safely with their lives. Too bad this woman didn't have the same sense. Her choice cost two lives.

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Hello all
Its is really a sad story and never ending one because of the ramifications it involves for future duplicate cases . Stopping on the highway to take care of ducks and kill two innocent people what a tragedy .
I agree with Merlot we can be animal lover ,but humans have priority !
Has for the judicial system well they have a hot potato to handle ,our law system is based on precedents and interpretation of the law by the higher Courts after the Quebec court of appeal will have ruled on it and its not appealed to SCC all the first instance court in Quebec will bounded by it .
To think someone can get a free pass on murder is a little scary don't you think?
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Oh come on now...
That woman didn't decide between the lives of humans and ducks as you imply.
Well by making certain choices you do decide without necessarily realizing at the moment !
She decided to protect the ducks, what resulted out of it is the death of two humans !
Choice was made its the results that count in this case ! Sadly
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Happened just past the signs... after the exit where the median is a few feet to the left of the yellow line and there is obviously nowhere to park a car. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.374003,-73.512537,3a,75y,293.18h,88.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7z3ZvehnN3-ZcB262m___g!2e0
Thanks for the link.
Pretty much what I expected - a left shoulder not wide enough for any car. One sees that a lot in Quebec. I can understand that if the highway passes through a built-up area and there is no space for a reasonably wide shoulder but in this case.....this type of highway design is irresponsible and should have never been allowed.
I must say I expected the area where the accident occurred to be in a curve with the visibility of the stopped car being blocked - not a perfectly straight stretch.


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Pretty much what I expected - a left shoulder not wide enough for any car. One sees that a lot in Quebec. I can understand that if the highway passes through a built-up area and there is no space for a reasonably wide shoulder but in this case.....this type of highway design is irresponsible and should have never been allowed.
I must say I expected the area where the accident occurred to be in a curve with the visibility of the stopped car being blocked - not a perfectly straight stretch.
Those arguments are simply not relevant to a criminal case !
A coroner inquiry was not ordered in this situation also ,about the highway likely possible bad configuration!
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Hello Michael99,

Oh come on now...
That woman didn't decide between the lives of humans and ducks as you imply.

You're right. In the moment she didn't. What I said was a very generalized philosophical portrayal. I don't think for a moment she was thinking of a choice between people and ducks. That is my real problem with what she did.

I've been in Montreal traffic on highways at all times of the day. Just Like the highways in and around many other large or busy cosmopolitan cities drivers practically never give anyone a break. They charge through at the slightest opportunity. It's the same around Montreal. Don't you think she's been around enough even at her age to know that and realize how dangerous it could be for even a cautious person. Who of us would ever just stop and get out with the door open in the high speed lane with traffic. No one. It's an invitation to the hospital or the morgue. Yet despite the fact it barely takes a brain cell to know the danger, she just stops the car and gets out for ducks thoughtlessly without consideration of her life or that of others. What kind of mindset has developed in a person that would allow anyone to do that??? What kind of consciousness or lack of is in her psyche to fail to consider and register the danger instantly in her mind??? It's freaking scary.

Happened just past the signs... after the exit where the median is a few feet to the left of the yellow line and there is obviously nowhere to park a car.
Incredibly stupid place to stop your car...

It's a scenario in which anyone should have instantly realized without thinking about it that stopping there is nuts. Yet she did it anyway. :crazy:

On the surface she made the choice between human lives and ducks, but in reality she was too disconnected from the reality of what she was doing or she wouldn't have. There's the problem. She saw ducks and simply stopped in dangerous traffic, got out risking lives, hers and others with seemingly no consciousness of the risks of her actions. She needs to be put away for a while; prison, counseling, psyche ward. One way or another she should not be allowed out in the world until she can learn to think responsibly enough to know the choice she made and be able to recognize the danger.

Choice was made its the results that count in this case ! Sadly
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BookerL

The circumstances and it's results prove she's not competent to be out in my opinion.

truly,

Merlot
 

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9 months and she'll be out in far less than that. Hopefully this will be a lesson to other drivers to be as considerate of human life they are of animal life.
 

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However you try to argue her position, that was a very stupid move that cost 2 people their lives for a couple of ducks.

She is very lucky she did not lose her life herself.

The amazing thing is that I've heard people say they would do the same. I did not argue with them, just stupid....
 

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Well im glad if she didn't got a severe sentence, she ain't a malicious person. Maybe foolish yes, but not malicious.
 

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Ten years no drivers license, a criminal record and restricted travel to some countries. She is fucked.

In reality you do not really need that much to be fuck .
A friend of mind this week was denied a mortgage loan because he has a pending count of assault ,which in reality never occurred!Hummmmm
Presumption of innocence applies only in Criminal court not in life



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Merlot

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:noidea:

In reality you do not really need that much to be fuck .

Cheers

Booker

"Defence lawyer Marc Labelle said afterward that he does not find the prison term unreasonable, and probably won’t appeal it, but he does take issue with the driving prohibition."

Her defense lawyer clearly recognizes how extremely easily she got off...and don't forget this, she gets to live too. The two people her mindlessly insane act killed are RESTRICTED from doing anything.

The funny part of this is if a business caused an injury by some sort of neglect in a product or store area the victim could sue for many thousands. In 1994 a woman won $2.86 million only because an inadequate coffee cup was said to cause an unnecessary dangerous risk. This fool woman creates a danger that killed and she loses her license and weekends for a time.

:crazy:

Merlot
 

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I'm somehow stuck on page 9.
When I click on page 10 or the forward arrow or the "last" button I keep ending up on page 9
What gives?