Would you turn a SP into a SB?

[AdeleBeaumont]

I've been wondering this for a while now, a few clients have suggested that I become their sb but I am not sure if they were serious.

I believe it's not impossible if you and that person already have a great connection.

So I'm asking you forum, would you turn a SP into a SB? If so, why?

 

[hungry101]

Why not?

I am wondering how many MERB SPs that disappeared from the scene are now SBs? I remember Olivia was advertising that she was open to this arrangement and then she disappeared. I understand she was back for a short time.

 

[ssj3]

It’s not for everyone that’s for sure..can get really complicated pretty quickly.

 

[Mithanon]

I wouldn't have an issue with it if the girl was interested, but at the same time the competition for SBs is greater, at least in Montreal there are quite a lot of girls who want to be a "SB" but expect only shopping or fancy dinners with no or minimal additional financial benefit. I think as a SP that wouldn't be worth your time to compete with, but if it's the right person and you discuss this to make sure both people will be satisfied with the arrangement I don't see why it can't work

 

[Flyingby]

I know quite a few sp who are also sb. Seems to be an easy route

 

[jalimon]

When you repeat with an sp ATF... basically she’s an SB.

 

[AdeleBeaumont]

Why not?

I am wondering how many MERB SPs that disappeared from the scene are now SBs? I remember Olivia was advertising that she was open to this arrangement and then she disappeared. I understand she was back for a short time.

Probably quite a few.

I wouldn't have an issue with it if the girl was interested, but at the same time the competition for SBs is greater, at least in Montreal there are quite a lot of girls who want to be a "SB" but expect only shopping or fancy dinners with no or minimal additional financial benefit. I think as a SP that wouldn't be worth your time to compete with, but if it's the right person and you discuss this to make sure both people will be satisfied with the arrangement I don't see why it can't work

I feel like most SB would be young and wouldn't really know what to expect from that type of relationship.

When you repeat with an sp ATF... basically she’s an SB.

But do you plan any activity outside of the bedroom with her?

 

[jalimon]

But do you plan any activity outside of the bedroom with her?

I did quite a few times yes. But I only paid for the meal or other expenses like I usualy did with gf anyhow. Never paid for time out of bedroom.

Maybe one day I will if I am richer, lonely and too old for much bedroom time

 

[AdeleBeaumont]

I did quite a few times yes. But I only paid for the meal or other expenses like I usualy did with gf anyhow. Never paid for time out of bedroom.

Maybe one day I will if I am richer, lonely and too old for much bedroom time

Dinner dates are good too

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

When you repeat with an sp ATF... basically she’s an SB.

I say pardon!

 

[luvdozer]

you need to clarify if you mean a non-exclusive sugar baby or an exclusive one.

In the former, the two of you spend time together on a regular basis for more than just sex and the man pays her a regular allowance regardless of the number of times they have sex. However, she still sees clients and he can see other people. the amount of the allowance is not meant to replace her entire SP income.

In the latter, the guy pays an allowance that is meant to replace the SP income with the intention of her no longer working as a provider.

I am not in a financial position to do the latter. Even if I was, I think i would be more comfortable with the former, but who knows.

 

[acoly]

Not going to lie, if i were so rich that its a non-issue, I would love to have my ATF to myself!

But I'd still have to do an extensive cost-benefit analysis prior lol

 

[hungry101]

I actually think it is kind of rude when it happens.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't do it in most circumstances. Not just because it is a dick move (great South Park reference BTW) but because I wouldn't want to spend that much money on one girl. It makes no sense. I don't even understand what kind of money it would take to do something like this and why?

In the rare event, the SP wanted semi-retirement and felt that I was a reliable customer and wanted me to be her Thursday (or something like this) I'd consider this type of arrangement.

 

[cloudsurf]

In the rare event, the SP wanted semi-retirement and felt that I was a reliable customer and wanted me to be her Thursday (or something like this) I'd consider this type of arrangement.

I`ve been in this type of semi-exclusive relationship at least 3 times over the past 15 years. The relationships lasted from 3 months to 5 years with my ATF.
The girls would see me about once week and still be seeing other clients or SD`s.
Our dates would include lunches or dinners, shopping, movies, concerts, overnights etc.
There was a set fee but no time limit.
The arrangement with my ATF was ideal. She didn`t like to work in Montreal so I was pretty much her only client in town . She had 3 America sugar daddies who she would see for several days a month. They were wealthy fortune 50 senior executives and spent way more on her than I could ever afford. Her real dad was a multi-millionaire and paid for her condo. I paid for her University Master`s degree expenses.

 

[gaby]

Bonne question Kyla...dans mon cas j'ai souvent plus développé une relation de friendship avec des sp juste pour le plaisir d'être ensemble......cinéma, brunch, ballade en voiture et même des voyages....cette relation pouvait être très éphémère ou durer quelques mois voire quelques années....je ne payais pas pour leur temps passé avec moi MAIS si nos rencontres incluaient le sexe alors je payais SEULEMENT pour ce moment.....et j'y tenais pour ne pas laisser croire que j'abusais d'elle.....et c'était accepté......mais souvent il n'y avait pas de sexe....juste le fun de passer un bon moment ensemble......

 

[hungry101]

This is exactly what I think.
Why wouldn’t I want to be with this gorgeous wonderful woman.

But if I had the money and the will, I could consider this. I like to share and that is why I write reviews. The older I get the less emotional I get and the more practical I get. The best session I've ever had I have not repeated. There are many reasons for this. One is frequency of being able to get to a particular hobby locality and being able to book that girl. But there is another concern. I fear the next meeting may not be as good as the first. I have never had a 2nd date that was better than the first good date. I say good date because there was a rare occasion when the first encounter was bad and we agreed to try again and it was a lot better the 2nd time.

Also, falling in love is not an option. I can't even conceive it anymore. In the past I could trick myself. We all know it is pretty much irrational but I could trick myself into feeling that the passion is real and that there was a possibility of more. It would make the sex so much more incredible. This is becoming more difficult to do.

In the old days I considered the movie Irma La Douce. I fashioned myself a young Jack Lemmon and the SP a young Shirley MacLaine. I would like to keep the SP all to myself and would consider scenarios that included me running off with her. I miss those feelings. I wish I could trick myself into feeling like this again. This is a little bit like a SD/SB relationship I think.

 

[cloudsurf]

Also, falling in love is not an option. I can't even conceive it anymore. In the past I could trick myself. We all know it is pretty much irrational but I could trick myself into feeling that the passion is real and that there was a possibility of more. It would make the sex so much more incredible. This is becoming more difficult to do.

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My 5 year relationship was a roller coaster ride that at times felt real. We argued at times over nothing important and at other times we felt real close . At times I felt what I could only describe as love. She told me one night that she would marry me if I was 30 years younger and if I got into financial trouble then she would support me....then a few weeks later she would complain that I didn`t pay her enough.
I knew her better than her own family and loved to hear her funny and intriguing stories about her life, her travels and adventures.....even talking about her boyfriends and their 12" cocks. I never got jealous....lol. Its been over 8 years since I last saw her and I still think about her often.

 

[hungry101]

I know who you are talking about and yes, I can see this. In many ways she is perfect. In fact, she is the one that we both agreed a 2nd date may be tough because the first was too much to live up to.

There is a girl at Sharks that refused to see me two years ago. Man I wanted her but I had pissed her off during the negotiation phase and she wouldn't talk to me. I fantasized about her for about 6 months till I returned. I had a strategy this time. I wanted to have her. She was a German very tall 30 something porn star goddess looking girl with hair extensions down below her ass and tats and piercing wearing glasses and big tits and heels. So we went to the room and had great sex and I had two pops with her in an hour. I ended up giving her a back rub which was a labor of love. It was so good. After she spent extra time with me and she spilled her guts to me. She was not what she appeared to be. She was a really sweet girl and yes, she lived a double life. I was impressed and I liked her but I sort of wanted to fuck the fantasy porn star dominatrix style girl.

Next week I returned and I felt obligated to repeat. After the first SOG she just plopped on her stomach and anticipated another back rub and said she was tired from a long week. I wanted a back rub. I'm not paying her to rub her back. Instead I found a way to cut the date short and paid her 50 Euros instead of 100 Euros. It was time to stalk another woman.

 

[jalimon]

I say pardon!

STN really I have been on SA. Really being an SB is exactly the same as being an SP. They are proving you a service for a fee. The only difference is an SB will "usually" get to chose (filter) who they go with. But really an SP ATF is the same. You would have never chose an sp to become your SP ATF if somehow she was not into you. So then you repeat. Often. No difference from an SB.

Cheers,

 

[AdeleBeaumont]

I actually think it is kind of rude when it happens.

I am not talking about a provider getting out of the business, or offering exclusivity as a result of her offer.

I mean a John making this offer.

It has long ago closed, but one of New York’s very best brothels was on Water Street, very near Wall Street.

I read about an absolutely beautiful Ukrainian on one of the message boards,with the caveat of better see her quick, she will get taken off of the market. This was during boom times, before the financial crisis.

I saw her, and she is still numero uno of the provider’s I have seen during my life in terms of looks.

Sure enough, she left the schedule about the time that the investment banks pay there huge annual bonuses, never to reappear, according to the TER message boards at the time.

It reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman comes into money and buys the amusement park so he can have all the rides to himself. Kind of an asshole move.

A lot of regular guys probably treasured that girl and saved up to see her once a month, but some dickhead thinks he should be the only one who gets to see her just because he makes the most.

I totally get that, you'd rather share one of your favourites than losing her to someone keeping her for himself.

I would consider, if she does not ask for an astronomous number. One of the issues is how we can maintain the chemistry with time. I repeat with some SP, first few times were great, but became not so great later. So, yes I wish, but the reality is not.

In other words, it became like a marriage.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't do it in most circumstances. Not just because it is a dick move (great South Park reference BTW) but because I wouldn't want to spend that much money on one girl. It makes no sense. I don't even understand what kind of money it would take to do something like this and why?

In the rare event, the SP wanted semi-retirement and felt that I was a reliable customer and wanted me to be her Thursday (or something like this) I'd consider this type of arrangement.

Yes, I think seeing her regularly but no more than once a week could count. Obviously the relationship would feel less transactional if you go on dinner dates etc.

I`ve been in this type of semi-exclusive relationship at least 3 times over the past 15 years. The relationships lasted from 3 months to 5 years with my ATF.
The girls would see me about once week and still be seeing other clients or SD`s.
Our dates would include lunches or dinners, shopping, movies, concerts, overnights etc.
There was a set fee but no time limit.
The arrangement with my ATF was ideal. She didn`t like to work in Montreal so I was pretty much her only client in town . She had 3 America sugar daddies who she would see for several days a month. They were wealthy fortune 50 senior executives and spent way more on her than I could ever afford. Her real dad was a multi-millionaire and paid for her condo. I paid for her University Master`s degree expenses.

Did you feel special? Knowing you're the only one she wants to see in Montreal