The Jets-Dolphins game was a complete suckfest which the Fish should have won, except their kicker let them down twice. The Jets won despite a 21-45 passing performance from Sanchez and numerous dropped passes. The Jets lost Revis to injury (again) and the Dolphins lost Reggie Bush as well.
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I partly disagree with EB. The Dolphins kicker never should have been placed in that position. Forty-seven & forty-nine yeard field goals are no chip-shot. The reason Miami lost was because of atrocious play-calling during the game, and more so in the overtime. Instead of trying to get within 20-30 yards of the end zone, the offensive coordinator kept calling for a long passing play towards the end zone. It was stupid! They had all their time outs and lots of time on the clock. They could have either ran the ball or go for the short passes.
I feel sorry for the kicker. The loss should not rest on his shoulders.
I feel sorry for the kicker. The loss should not rest on his shoulders.
I agree Doc, no idea what the OC was doing calling for those end zone tosses with so much time left and all their timeout's. He should be fired for his incompetence!
On another note, i kinda feel sorry for Tim Tebow. Why did Jets bother picking him up instead of letting him go elsewhere where he could find a team offering him a bigger role on the offense? Is Rex Ryan really the jackass he appears to be?
I could not help but notice that during the NBC player introductions, Kyla Arrington, a starting cornerback on the Patriots, mentioned the high school he graduated from instead of the college he attended, Hofstra. What was up with that? Does Arrington have a bug up his ass about the Hofstra Flying Dutchmen?
Vince Wilfork looks like a human bowling ball out there. How do you keep a guy who looks like that blocked?
That entire display of "Officiating" out there tonight was purely sickening. For both teams. Complete and utter INCOMPETENCE!! I just don't get it. This Billion Dollar industry being denigrated by these ridiculous "refs." Makes me want to boycott the NFL. Same as the NHL lockout, disgusting!
The NFLPA sent a letter to the NFL demanding that the lockout of the regular officials end, citing player safety concerns:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...s-lockout-cites-lack-safe-working-environment
This apparently led to a flurry of negotiations over the weekend which ended in a stalemate with the two sides "far apart."
I think the biggest problem has been game management by the replacement refs. However, as long as the fans keep coming to the games and keep watching the games, the NFL is not going to care. There is no reason for them to care if we are all watching games with an inferior officiating product.
It's like the "jump the shark" phenomenon with TV shows. Sometimes a popular TV show will have a good 2 or 3 year run, and then it will start to suck. The network will not cancel the show even after it begins to suck. The network will cancel it when the ratings start to plunge. That may take a full season of the show sucking before the ratings begin to slip badly. It's the same thing here. There is no evidence of ratings slippage, and thus no reason for the NFL to sweat. Roger Goodell is simply an employee of the owners and he does as he is told, same as Bettman in the NHL. They can try and convince the owners to take a course of action, but ultimately the decision to take action, or not, is in the hands of the owners. They will only start to care when they see a lot of empty seats and ratings slipping, not a second sooner.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...s-lockout-cites-lack-safe-working-environment
This apparently led to a flurry of negotiations over the weekend which ended in a stalemate with the two sides "far apart."
I think the biggest problem has been game management by the replacement refs. However, as long as the fans keep coming to the games and keep watching the games, the NFL is not going to care. There is no reason for them to care if we are all watching games with an inferior officiating product.
It's like the "jump the shark" phenomenon with TV shows. Sometimes a popular TV show will have a good 2 or 3 year run, and then it will start to suck. The network will not cancel the show even after it begins to suck. The network will cancel it when the ratings start to plunge. That may take a full season of the show sucking before the ratings begin to slip badly. It's the same thing here. There is no evidence of ratings slippage, and thus no reason for the NFL to sweat. Roger Goodell is simply an employee of the owners and he does as he is told, same as Bettman in the NHL. They can try and convince the owners to take a course of action, but ultimately the decision to take action, or not, is in the hands of the owners. They will only start to care when they see a lot of empty seats and ratings slipping, not a second sooner.
Harbaugh Cons Replacement Refs Into Giving 2 Extra Challenges
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...refs-two-extra-challenges-014552673--nfl.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...refs-two-extra-challenges-014552673--nfl.html
I was watching the San Francisco/Minnesota game when the 49ers wound up getting two extra timeouts, plus awarded a winning challenge that they never should have been allowed to use (they were already out of timeouts). It was not only embarrassing, but disgusting!!!
What saved the NFL from further embarrassment was a last-minute interception by Minnesota.
If this calamity is allowed to continue, then someone should FIRE Roger Goodell. Get someone in there who'll get a deal done!
What saved the NFL from further embarrassment was a last-minute interception by Minnesota.
If this calamity is allowed to continue, then someone should FIRE Roger Goodell. Get someone in there who'll get a deal done!
Peter King On Why The NY Giants Win
Why the Giants win ... at least one big reason.
Patience wins in the NFL. Impetuousness rarely does, and when it does, it doesn't last. The 2009 NFL draft illustrates that well. That spring, the Giants picked Connecticut tackle Will Beatty 60th overall, Cal Poly wide receiver Ramses Barden 85th overall and North Carolina State running back Andre Brown 129th. Until Thursday night, Beatty had been an oft-injured disappointment, Barden got passed -- and lapped several times -- in wideout impact by Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks and Brown had been cut by half the free world. On Thursday, they were three of the 10 most important Giants in a 36-7 rout of Carolina on the road.
That's the strength of Jerry Reese as a general manager. He's not a knee-jerk guy. Last April, I wrote a story on Reese (and, in particular, how well he works with Tom Coughlin), and I sat in his office for a while talking about roster-building. The subject of the abuse he took from the talk-show set and fans came up for letting Steve Smith and Kevin Boss go in the 2011 offseason. He got a smile on his face and played me a couple of, shall we say, interesting, voice mails from critical fans after those players went to Philadelphia and Kansas City by way of Oakland, respectively. He asked me not to report what was said in the voicemails, but let's just say you need to have some blisters on your hide to be a general manager for a New York sports team.
"We don't have a template for how we build here,'' says Reese, and the Giants don't. But the one thing they have no problem doing is saying goodbye. They loved Boss -- loved him. But he wasn't worth a $6 million signing bonus to them. Gone. "Around here, when the money gets above X, we say goodbye,'' John Mara told me in the spring. They figured Barden could slide into Manningham's role and so they let Manningham walk to San Francisco. Brandon Jacobs had worn out his welcome; Brown and rookie David Wilson will have a shot to replace him -- and that looks good so far.
Charting players who have been good Reese picks in his first six drafts with the Giants:
2012: CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech (Round 3, 94 overall)
Precocious and instinctive from day one of camp, Hosley's one of the best rookie DBs in the league. He intercepted a Cam Newton pass Thursday.
2011: LB Jacquian Williams, South Florida (R6, 202)
A top special-teamer from day one, Williams stripped Kyle Williams in overtime of last season's NFC title game, setting up the Giants win.
2010: DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida (R1, 15)
Think the Eagles (Brandon Graham at 13) or Raiders (Rolando McClain at 8) would like to have a draft-day do-over?
2009: RB Andre Brown, North Carolina State (R4, 129)
Tore his Achilles as a rookie, and has been cut eight times since, but Reese brought him back, and Brown finally paid off with his big night against Carolina.
2008: WR Mario Manningham, Michigan (R3, 95)
Made the second-greatest catch in modern Giants history, but the Giants let him walk in free agency. "I don't agonize over anyone,'' Reese says.
2007: RB Ahmad Bradshaw, Marshall (R7, 250)
Troubled in college, he was worth a seventh-round risk, to put it mildly. What I love about the Giants 2007 draft: All eight rookies on this Super Bowl roster not only made the team, but also were active for at least one of the Giants' four playoff wins that year.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/23/mmqb/index.html#ixzz27RBi82dw
Why the Giants win ... at least one big reason.
Patience wins in the NFL. Impetuousness rarely does, and when it does, it doesn't last. The 2009 NFL draft illustrates that well. That spring, the Giants picked Connecticut tackle Will Beatty 60th overall, Cal Poly wide receiver Ramses Barden 85th overall and North Carolina State running back Andre Brown 129th. Until Thursday night, Beatty had been an oft-injured disappointment, Barden got passed -- and lapped several times -- in wideout impact by Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks and Brown had been cut by half the free world. On Thursday, they were three of the 10 most important Giants in a 36-7 rout of Carolina on the road.
That's the strength of Jerry Reese as a general manager. He's not a knee-jerk guy. Last April, I wrote a story on Reese (and, in particular, how well he works with Tom Coughlin), and I sat in his office for a while talking about roster-building. The subject of the abuse he took from the talk-show set and fans came up for letting Steve Smith and Kevin Boss go in the 2011 offseason. He got a smile on his face and played me a couple of, shall we say, interesting, voice mails from critical fans after those players went to Philadelphia and Kansas City by way of Oakland, respectively. He asked me not to report what was said in the voicemails, but let's just say you need to have some blisters on your hide to be a general manager for a New York sports team.
"We don't have a template for how we build here,'' says Reese, and the Giants don't. But the one thing they have no problem doing is saying goodbye. They loved Boss -- loved him. But he wasn't worth a $6 million signing bonus to them. Gone. "Around here, when the money gets above X, we say goodbye,'' John Mara told me in the spring. They figured Barden could slide into Manningham's role and so they let Manningham walk to San Francisco. Brandon Jacobs had worn out his welcome; Brown and rookie David Wilson will have a shot to replace him -- and that looks good so far.
Charting players who have been good Reese picks in his first six drafts with the Giants:
2012: CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech (Round 3, 94 overall)
Precocious and instinctive from day one of camp, Hosley's one of the best rookie DBs in the league. He intercepted a Cam Newton pass Thursday.
2011: LB Jacquian Williams, South Florida (R6, 202)
A top special-teamer from day one, Williams stripped Kyle Williams in overtime of last season's NFC title game, setting up the Giants win.
2010: DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida (R1, 15)
Think the Eagles (Brandon Graham at 13) or Raiders (Rolando McClain at 8) would like to have a draft-day do-over?
2009: RB Andre Brown, North Carolina State (R4, 129)
Tore his Achilles as a rookie, and has been cut eight times since, but Reese brought him back, and Brown finally paid off with his big night against Carolina.
2008: WR Mario Manningham, Michigan (R3, 95)
Made the second-greatest catch in modern Giants history, but the Giants let him walk in free agency. "I don't agonize over anyone,'' Reese says.
2007: RB Ahmad Bradshaw, Marshall (R7, 250)
Troubled in college, he was worth a seventh-round risk, to put it mildly. What I love about the Giants 2007 draft: All eight rookies on this Super Bowl roster not only made the team, but also were active for at least one of the Giants' four playoff wins that year.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/23/mmqb/index.html#ixzz27RBi82dw
Anyone catch that final play in the GB/Seattle game? UNFUCKENBELIEVABLE INCOMPETENCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a fucking joke!!!
The NFL has now become the WWE!!!!!!!!
Is it time to boycott future games until the league reclaims its integrity???
GET THESE FUCKING CLOWNS OUTTA HERE & BRING BACK THE REFEREES, YOU FUCKING IDIOT ROGER GOODELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The NFL has now become the WWE!!!!!!!!
Is it time to boycott future games until the league reclaims its integrity???
GET THESE FUCKING CLOWNS OUTTA HERE & BRING BACK THE REFEREES, YOU FUCKING IDIOT ROGER GOODELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
$150 Million In Bets Shifted by Blown Call
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...ckers-disputed-mnf-call-shifted-150-250m-bets
Basically this is adding a new dimension of risk for the bettors of the world. The JoeT's of the world must beware.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...ckers-disputed-mnf-call-shifted-150-250m-bets
Basically this is adding a new dimension of risk for the bettors of the world. The JoeT's of the world must beware.
NFL Says Call Stands, Was Correct On the Field
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...l-end-game-green-bay-packers-seattle-seahawks
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...l-end-game-green-bay-packers-seattle-seahawks
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