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    Expressing myself

    After reading a few threads, there is something I just don't understand... I am not judging here, just wondering...

    What about security?? From my point of view, when a lady chooses to be in an agency instead of being independant, it's because :

    1 - She does want to answer the phone / emails, take care of website, pictures, etc...

    2 - She does not have the ressources to be surrounded by trust worthy people, therefore the environnement is not secure!!

    When you take care of booking an appointment for a lady, she kinda puts her life into your hands! How come these situations happen?? There is so many people that call themselves "agency", but in fact, all they do is answer a phone call/email and send a girl whereever without checking anything or asking her advice! Many people have no clue of what to do in an emergency!
    I just have to speak my mind..

    Aren't the ladies aware that security comes first? If there is any problem, ANY PROBLEM, you leave, and then call your agency. If you cannot leave, you call hotel security/911! Why are the ladies scared of that? I think they all need to know that NO LE will give them problems for taking care of their own life!!! Besides, they all need to have access to free legal help (paid by the agency, just seems logical).

    I may be out of line here, but to me, it's important that a lady is aware that she is protected, that every situation has a planned solution. She should ask questions to her booker!! So many people do not care if the lady does not call to confirm, who she is seeing, etc etc. Is it so hard to ask for a simple full name and verify??

    The girls have the right to know the most information possible about the person they are gonna see!!! They should be told that when you walk in a room, you put the donation in a safe place, you talk to the guy to see if you are at ease with him, and then call to confirm. There should be someone in front of where she is for the whole time she is there. They should know that they decide what they want to do! There is NO OBLIGATION!

    I speak from experience here. I have worked for agencies that ask for a tremendous part of your earnings, but have no clue of who the hell is the guy they are sending you to, have no one looking out for you, have you wait forever in front of an hotel or a residence because the driver was "far away". They almost force you to take the date or extend the lenght, etc etc... How can that be OK???

    I know we are all trying to make a living here, but if someone gets hurt because of you, is it really worth it??

    Lolita xxx

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    Your point is quite important, Lolita. I guess that the most secure working environment would be doing incalls where, if anything happens, people are on hand to come to the rescue.

    As far as outcalls, there are intangibles that even the most cautious agency owner cannot control even if he would ask the client tons of questions, especially in the case of a new client.

    I guess the most secure thing is not necessarily to ask general-type of questions but rather specific ones like personal email address, cell phone number, home address, profession, etc. I've seen on the net some sps who ask for private info before deciding whether or not to see the client.

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    Girl's security.

    Lolita, I can't speak for Montreal, but in my town of Sherbrooke there's a few incall places that will always have a guy with the girls in case there's any trouble.And if the girls do outcall, the driver always goes in with the girl first to check the guy and how the place looks. I know because many girls have told me that. And I think it's great because there's a lot of loony's out there. Just my 2 cents.

    Stud out...

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    Pepper Spray/Mace

    Pepper spray, pepper sray, pepper spray! There are very few problems that cannot be solved through effective interpersonal communication, but when that fails, good ole pepper spray will bail you out.
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    Hi,
    I handle the security myself. We have many ressources for that. My message was just dedicated to other people who seem to think this is not important! I think this has to stop and that there should be some way to inform all the ladies about how to verify she is actually in good hands..
    Lolita xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by juzt_a_girl
    Yup! (pepper spray= bear repellant at Canadian Tire)

    And a good ole swiss army knife ;-)

    Chloë
    Uhmmm... bear repellant? Is there really such a thing as bear repellant? Anyone knows if it actually works ? I wonder if they also have shark repellant ?

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    mace and knife= good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by juzt_a_girl
    I agree with studgrade.
    The safest way to do this is doing it on your own. Booking your own appointments, asking clients to give you info, only giving your number once they've given you theirs, and having someone who cares about you know where you are going and what time you should be back. Out-call agencies are the least secure place to work at.

    As for LE, although I know that some LE actually care about the security of SPs, my experience is that there's quite a bunch of them that don't. Chloë
    On a more serious note, my dear Chloé,

    i'm a bit surprised that a girl actually thinks that mace or a swiss army knife can bail her out. The way i see it is that if the situation ever degenerates to the point where the girl feels compelled to draw a knife or her bear repellant bottle , the odds of a favorable outcome at this stage already don't look too good.

    I think that the best, and perhaps only, tool a girl has is her brain and how much she can talk herself out of a difficult situation and keep her customer calm.

    In other words, she must put herself in a survival-type of mode similar to a hostage taking situation. Experts say that the best thing one can do after being taken hostage is to "humanize" oneself with respect to the captor(s).

    In the context of a client-sp encounter, the next best thing would be to have security nearby. Brandishing a knife or a mace bottle has the potential of angrying even further the assailant or, even, allowing him to use the knife or mace against you in the event he manages to overpower you.

    And finally, if there's ever trouble inside the room or, from the get-go, if the sp realizes that there's something wrong, there should be a code word on the phone like "chow" which tells the people you're with that you're in danger.

    Juste mes 2 petites pièces de monnaie .

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    I have met two SPs who were trained in martial arts. One of them demonstrated martial arts techniques for me and I have no doubt that she could effectively defend herself even against 200 pound plus gorillas (she is very athletic).

    Regarding infliction of groin pain, all an SP really needs to do is watch what Charles Bronson does in the movie "The Evil That Men Do." In this movie, Bronson very effectivly demonstrates how a small man can completely incapacitate a larger, harassing bully. It worked effectively for Charlie B., and the same technique can be used by an SP.

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    Smile So You Want 'Kung Fu' Fighting?

    It is entirely possible and realistic to learn some basic but lethal martial art techniques on self defense for SPs in a very short time, say half a day. The key is, just like love making skills, you have to practice, practice, and practice to be good at it.

    Louis, the 'Kung Fu' monk from the Shao Lin Temple in China
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    defending yourself

    Hey Chloe.
    Have you ever had to resort to using the mace on a Client?Like you mentioned, the risk is always higher in meeting unpleasant clients when working for an agency..you took the right path in becoming independant..at least you get to screen you clients to a certain point..In my case, after a month of communicating with you, I was very comfortable when I met you as you were when you met me...
    I cant wait for the repeat.
    Lee STONE
    Cum for me Lee..Yeah baby....

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    Quote Originally Posted by femaleluver
    I wonder if they also have shark repellant ?
    Surely you've been around long enough to know that the only way to repel a shark is with another member of the b-...er, shark.

    P.S. Thanks, Louis: now I've got that old Carl Douglas song stuck in my head.

    They were funky China men
    From funky Chinatown
    They were chopping them up
    And they were chopping them down...

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    How About Kung Fu Fighting With Our Cute Montreal companions?

    Quote Originally Posted by tmgol

    P.S. Thanks, Louis: now I've got that old Carl Douglas song stuck in my head.

    They were funky China men
    From funky Chinatown
    They were chopping them up
    And they were chopping them down...
    Tmgol Pal:

    Hahahaha.....LORL!!! You can increase this entertainment value by practicing kung fu fighting with these beautiful ladies here in Montreal. Just tell them they can only kick, chop, poke, and lick you romantically and with tender loving care.
    Louisisgreat
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