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Carmine Falcone

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I think Dan Snyder has developed a small, but sufficient amount of clout with his fellow owners. This is all that matters, not that minority owners disliked his stewardship of the the team and tried to buy him out. The NFL ownership does not want to see one of their flock toppled by the Commissioner, because it will only invite scrutiny of their own glass houses (Snyder likely also has dirt on all of them, and Goodell, that needs to be left in the ground).
This is the portion I found most crucial in what you wrote. If it's true that Snyder has influence and dirt on Goodell and the other owners, then yeah they'll look the other way. Gruden was comfortable enough to send those messages. We don't know how Allen responded but if those messages were a pattern, then they were either like-minded or equally unprofessional. Translation: there's likely more dirt. But we won't know that until the situation plays out. There are about 650,000 emails so odds that Gruden is the only bad apple are low.

As for your point about NFL owners not taking too kindly to forcing out one of their own, if the PR nightmare is bad enough the NFL will protect the NFL. The main impetus that causes the league to do anything is bad publicity or the fear of it. As I previously mentioned, if something akin to the Donald Sterling comments happened in the NFL, Goodell will act (assuming his hands aren't dirty too;)) . You've also seen how the NFL sat on the Ray Rice tape, but Rice was only cut after the media got hold of the tape. Then there was that Giants kicker who admitted domestic violence (years after Ray Rice!) but wasn't released until it surfaced in the media while the kicker had reported to training camp.

The NFL only cares about what's good for business. It's why a silent anthem protest is more harmful in NFL "morality" than all the wife beaters in the league well before Ray Rice. Hell, Donte Stallworth and Josh Brent killed people (DUIs) and still played a few games after serving time. But more fuss was raised about a guy clumsily protesting police brutality, so of course he had to go over people who behaved worse.
 

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HEY...BUCCS again 28-22....quiet night for TOM.....only 300 y--2TD..... ;) ....je deviens tranquillement un fan des BUCCS ;)
 
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HEY...BUCCS again 28-22....quiet night for TOM.....only 300 y--2TD..... ;) ....je deviens tranquillement un fan des BUCCS ;)
Ouin mais ça reste les Eagles ... Une poule a plus de chance de voler que les Eagles de Phily ...

Je viens de regarder la schedule des Buccs ... Ca ressemble au ancien calendrier des Pats ou il affrontaient des équipes de second rang ... Voyons ce qui vas arrivé contre Buffalo ...
 

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CHIEFS 31-WASH 13....la logique est respectée....as usual a good second half for PATRICK and Co.....près de 400y/2TD.

COWBOYS 35--PATRIOTS 29...wow....the game of the day with a DALLAS win in OT ....and a spectacular performance by PRESCOTT...445y/3TD.

And c'est la fête au village à JACKSONVILLE;) ...finally a first win :).....big thanks to DOLPHINS for an horrible game.

Tonight BILLS :) vs TITANS...a game to watch....go JOSH.
 

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OUPS...BILLS lost 34-31.BUT it was a good game....TITANS stop ALLEN on a fourth--and-1 qb sneak with 21 sec. to play :confused: ....and it was it ...not a bad evening for JOSH with 35/47, 353y and 3TD..;)
 
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This was a very disappointing loss for Buffalo. They dominated the first half but they couldn't finish drives and there were some costly penalties. On defense they had trouble tackling Derrick Henry but so does every other defense. What a beast he is! I was ready to pronounce my prediction for a Bills-Bucs Super Bowl but now I am not so sure. The AFC championship has many contenders including Baltimore, Tennessee and maybe Los Angeles. I am not putting Kansas City in that conversation yet. The NFC has the Cardinals, Bucs and Cowboys, and Packers. The Bucs will be the best team when their secondary is healthy and Gronkowski is back. In Gronk we trust!

Bottom line is that we haven't seen that the Bills have learned to win games like last night's game. They still have not shown championship type quality as have they proven Bucs. Baltimore might have a better defense than Buffalo. We shall see.
 

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I was ready to pronounce my prediction for a Bills-Bucs Super Bowl but now I am not so sure.
This kind of stuff happens every year. You think you've figured out a team and then it doesn't work out like it does on paper. A few weeks ago, the Rams handled the Bucs and looked like THE NFC team to beat--then the Rams got laughed out of the building by Arizona. Last year, even the Bucs didn't truly gel until the end of the season. So one never knows.

(What I do know is football Sunday always goes a lot better when you're relaxing with a Sunday night game after you've plowed some SP just a few hours before. Did that in Montreal a few years ago, then my team won on Sunday night. Was the kind of day Ice Cube would say was a good day).
 

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Carmine,

Going into the Tennessee game, the BIlls' ascendant defense had 2 shutouts, while the rest of the NFL combined had 1. Then Tennessee steamrolled them for 34 points with a very banged up team, and I did not see that coming. You can look at it and say nobody can stop Derrick Henry as he is a freak of nature, and give them a pass, or you can say maybe they are not the best defense in the league. Watching that game, I did not think their defense performed well. So that has created the doubt in my mind.

I do agree with you that how teams look now really does not matter anyway because the injury situation in the NFL is so fluid you do not know who will be healthy or hurt at the end of the year. The Bucs have not been themselves, despite being 5-1, because they are missing 2 starting LBs, both starting cornerbacks and replacement Richard Sherman on defense, and Rob Gronkowski on offense, who is way better than the other Bucs tight ends, who are merely serviceable dudes. So to me that is a measure of their strength. I still like the Bills team and they are my likely (albeit now much weaker) betting favorite to win the AFC. But I want to see their defense perform really well against a playoff team.
 

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Yep....CHIEFS...the worst game have seen....pas de défensive et une attaque déficiente......hopefully the BUCCS---even without BROWN and GRONK...38-3....wow....BRADY with again 4 TD....and yes 600th passing TD .....and now 6-1.

PATS.....big big party....54-13.

Tonight SAINTS :) ---SEAHAWKS.
 

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Tonight SAINTS :) ---SEAHAWKS.
This game was a good game on paper before Russell Wilson got injured. 13-10 final score. Snooze fest of a game, unless you count DK Metcalf bullying that Saints CB. That Packers-Cardinals game looks promising though, even if Davante Adams doesn't play.
 
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Kingsbury was outcoached in that game last night by LaFleur and GB. GB was down their top 3 WRs and were playing practice squad players and relying heavily on their run game, which was predictable, but Arizona did not stop it.
 
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Goodell Making $64 Million Per Year:
I tell you if I made $64 million in one year I would retire and be kicking it in Key West. Just remember guys, when you save money, you can't take it with you! Nobody gets out of here alive, as Jim Morrison knew all too well.
 

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Yes.....SAINTS 36--BUCCS 27....another 4 TD/375Y for BRADY BUT was not enough....2 costly int..---one late with 1 min to play---and a big win---now 5-2--for the SAINTS. :)

SIEMIAN---en relève to WINSTON injured second half--- did ok dans les circonstances..did not play since September 2019.
 

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That late interception was not Brady's fault, Godwin didn't do what he was supposed to do (he may have been held). New Orleans was very lucky to win that game. That one INT was basically the difference in the game.
 

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Well...LUCK is a big part / plays a major role in any sport :) ...and as we say a good team makes his own luck....les SAINTS ont été opportunistes et bien su tirer profit des erreurs de BRADY.....and a win is a win.;)
 
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