Random thoughts: What’s on your mind lately?

[David Sel et Poivre]

This goes out to the SPs that engage with us here on Merb !

 

[Julia Sky]

My dogs were pissed, raining too much for a decent walk. I have a raincoat but don't like the smell and mess of wet dogs ( 3 ).

Imagine how pissed my dog was when the 10min walk under the rain ended at the vet for some bloodwork. Lol poor baby!

 

[Fradi]

Men always want to compete with each other and prove they can get personal infos out of us

Actually I totally disagree with you.
I have worked many years with both men and women and let me tell you women are much worse.
They never forget they are horrible to each other talk about each other’s personal life and will hold a grudge for life. I can’t see SP being any different than other women, and if Twitter is any indication it just proves my point.
Men on the other hand don’t give a shit about each other’s personal life, will get into an argument and 2 days later will have a beer together.

There is no middle ground with women at work they are either totally amazing to work with or someone you want to avoid entirely.

 

[LC18]

Actually I totally disagree with you.
I have worked many years with both men and women and let me tell you women are much worse.
They never forget they are horrible to each other talk about each other’s personal life and will hold a grudge for life. I can’t see SP being any different than other women, and if Twitter is any indication it just proves my point.
Men on the other hand don’t give a shit about each other’s personal life, will get into an argument and 2 days later will have a beer together.

There is no middle ground with women at work they are either totally amazing to work with or someone you want to avoid entirely.

Strictly talking about my experience in this industry. We don’t make private groups to share photos of clients and where they go to school.

 

[LC18]

I can sorta understand the photo sharing but why the school part? I just don't get it...

A lot of clients try to find out real life identity. If we blur our face they will share unblurred photos amongst them. They will try to find us on dating apps, some will even try to message us on Facebook.


Some probably don’t understand it’s creepy and others probably know and don’t care

 

[LC18]

But again... why??? What's the goal here? Also if you really want to know, and this might sound crazy, just ask?

“If I message her on Facebook she won’t charge me hehehehe”

 

[Fradi]

Strictly talking about my experience in this industry. We don’t make private groups to share photos of clients and where they go to school.

Don’t know why you are bringing up school and photos.
Couldn’t care less about where an SP went to school and she has enough photographs on her web sight so what is there more to see.

Clients don’t/can’t take photographs without an SP permission so I don’t get your point besides there is more than enough photographs available on their web sight, instagram, selfies, pretty much there is an abundance of photographs voluntarily submitted by SP to advertise themselves.or to make $$$$.

 

[Fradi]

Sharing photographs ?
There are so many of you with such explicit photographs and videos on your only fans with stuff in every hole being submitted by yourselves for money.

I have nothing against this it is obviously a money making venture and if you are comfortable with it no problem, but please don’t turn around and complain about photographs being shared,

Basically you don’t want photographs being shared don’t put any on any media platform, it is inevitable that it will be spread all over the place and not necessarily by men.

There are many of you falsely using each others photographs to advertise also ( bait and switch ) lol.

Personally I am not interested in pornographic photographs, I much prefer a lady in a nice tight black cocktail dress with high heels.

 

[Fradi]

it's great that you can't fathom why clients would take and exchange photographs and videos without an SPs permission because it probably means you don't engage in these practices yourself. however, it happens, unfortunately.
similarly, it's great that you personally don't care about digging up and exchanging personally identifiable and sensitive information about SPs. but, again, it happens, unfortunately.

to Lena's point about private groups SPs have to discuss clients and whether they exist, they do. there's one that SPs of an agency use where I supposedly have a funny nickname. from what I understand, they're mostly discussing hygiene and matters of safety but they discuss other things too.

Tell me where do these videos and photos come from if not made and submitted by the SP themselves on one form of media platform or another.
Yes I agree that it is not right to spread this without their permission, but you really have to be extremely naive with your head in the sand to think that it will not be and not necessarily by men,

 

[Fradi]

1. not every SP has an onlyfans or similar (nor does every SP engage in the bait and switch), so let's not generalize.
2. even for the SPs that have an onlyfans or similar, they still have property rights over their content that should be protected and enforced (e.g., against the unauthorized resale and distribution of it), and that's irrespective of moral judgements over the content itself (unless we're talking about things that violate OF's T&C, in which case it's irrelevant to this conversation).
3. you're right that it would be naive on the OF producers part to assume that the content will never be shared and that said property rights in this domain can ever be perfectly and absolutely enforced.
4. in a later post you ask where "videos and photos come from if not made and submitted by the SP themselves on one form of media platform or another". some may come from social media or OF while others may be a hidden camera a client has set up in the room, a sneaky camera shot, etc.... sometimes, the photo and video may even be consented to by the SP or sent by them, but in most cases, the distribution of it is not as it's intended for the client's private use only.

Oh please hidden cameras give me a break, it may happen .000001% of the time.
Most photographs videos are made by the SP themselves for advertisement or for sale for money as nudes or to view.

Yes you are perfectly right that their rights should be protected but it is very naive to think it will ever be on todays free for all media platforms.

You don’t want any photographs or videos of yourself floating around don’t make any and don’t put them on the internet, pretty simple.

I love the women I see and think they are gorgeous and amazing but that doesn’t mean keeping my head in the sand and that I dont live in the real world.

 

[AirBo]

The people that text me “I’m going to book you soon” are going to be so surprised when I retire. What is the saying? “You snooze, you lose”

You've been sharing a lot of grudges lately. It's a strange feeling. Please don't retire ever.

 

[AirBo]

 

[Fradi]

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Lucky girl most of these guys are smiling, and happy to see her.

 

[Mandouke]

A lot of clients try to find out real life identity. If we blur our face they will share unblurred photos amongst them. They will try to find us on dating apps, some will even try to message us on Facebook.


Some probably don’t understand it’s creepy and others probably know and don’t care

That sounds an awful lot like a person who can stalk. If they are not content to know you for the transactional nature you are engaged in and are seeking to know more about you and your personal life......it is a fine line that is being inched toward and your personal and private life is at risk. Some people are not well.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Oh please hidden cameras give me a break, it may happen .000001% of the time.
Most photographs videos are made by the SP themselves for advertisement or for sale for money as nudes or to view.

Yes you are perfectly right that their rights should be protected but it is very naive to think it will ever be on todays free for all media platforms.

You don’t want any photographs or videos of yourself floating around don’t make any and don’t put them on the internet, pretty simple.

I love the women I see and think they are gorgeous and amazing but that doesn’t mean keeping my head in the sand and that I dont live in the real world.

There are so many of you with such explicit photographs and videos on your only fans with stuff in every hole being submitted by yourselves for money.

I have nothing against this it is obviously a money making venture and if you are comfortable with it no problem, but please don’t turn around and complain about photographs being shared

I am super happy for you Fradi that you are living the dream seeing the three or four same providers all the time and that your experience in this industry couldn't be better! But please, coming here to say clients filming us and sharing photos and videos without our consent rarely happens is upsetting. It is not because you are unaware that it's not our reality. It's also not because I choose to share some photos of me on the Internet that clients can film me and share whatever they want about me, this is a ridiculous argument to bring to the discussion.

 

[LC18]

Don’t know why you are bringing up school and photos.
Couldn’t care less about where an SP went to school and she has enough photographs on her web sight so what is there more to see.

Clients don’t/can’t take photographs without an SP permission so I don’t get your point besides there is more than enough photographs available on their web sight, instagram, selfies, pretty much there is an abundance of photographs voluntarily submitted by SP to advertise themselves.or to make $$$$.

lmao you really don’t get it do you?

Because it’s happened, that’s why I’m bringing it up.

Clients can and will set up hidden cameras and take photos/videos of us.

 

[LC18]

You've been sharing a lot of grudges lately. It's a strange feeling. Please don't retire ever.

I’m definitely leaving sooner than later

 

[Fradi]

I am super happy for you Fradi that you are living the dream seeing the three or four same providers all the time and that your experience in this industry couldn't be better! But please, coming here to say clients filming us and sharing photos and videos without our consent rarely happens is upsetting. It is not because you are unaware that it's not our reality. It's also not because I choose to share some photos of me on the Internet that clients can film me and share whatever they want about me, this is a ridiculous argument to bring to the discussion.

Show me where I said that it is ok to film you and distribute it on the internet, or anything personal about you. I believe I said the exact opposite.
Yes it may happen and if you know about it you should report it to the police. I highly doubt that it is in the mind of most clients to behave like that.

I don’t know why some of you ladies always have to paint such a negative opinion of your clients and the people that support you.
You think we appreciate and enjoy this type of behaviour of constantly being painted and made to feel as if all men are some kind of low life.

Apart from that heaven help anyone that may disagree with you then you all gang up on the guy.
Why would anybody want to film you, or take photographs of you. You have enough photos of yourself face out on the internet that you voluntarily submitted yourself.right on your web sight.

Again you don’t want your photograph on the internet don’t take one and submit it on the internet.

 

[bodick7]

I don’t know why some of you ladies always have to paint such a negative opinion of your clients

I think they didn't generalized the picture....
Ceci dit, ils doivent en voir des vertes et des pas mûres...

 

[Fradi]

I think they didn't generalized the picture....
Ceci dit, ils doivent en voir des vertes et des pas mûres...

I am just getting tired of the constant client bashing.
If it is so bad, life is all about choices.
You make your own luck in life.