Review rating system

[Lunaseraphim]

That was a really sweet take — all sunshine, rainbows, and unicorns spreading positivity. ✨

Just one small thing though: quite a few guys have mentioned they intentionally avoid

the SP he reviews. So while it sounds nice in theory, in practice… maybe not the magical boost it seems.

Still, love the optimism. We need dreamers too.




Well, isn’t that priceless. You’re “quite certain” I don’t write reviews and yet, here’s a post where you replied to one of mine… in the review section.

https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/pamela-blonde-ferraryagency.218101/post-1514035

You clearly didn't pick on the irony in my comment.
Sorry, I forgot to CLEARLY STATE that something hyperbolic I wrote is a joke.

Also saying "we'll avoid the providers he reviewed" just because these reviews don't seem genuine to you and because you don't like him is punishing these providers and hurting their business, it doesn't affect him.. it's just not cool in my opinion.

 

[Fradi]

My comment was not fully serious. Personally unless the person is a scammer, stole from the client, refused service without a good reason, has fake photos or a horrible attitude, I don't think harsh reviews are necessary. They have the potential to lead to actual violence and danger, as another user very clearly explained. But I agree that sometimes positive reviews can be suspicious as well, for the reason @EagerBeaver mentioned.

Oh by the way. Maybe if you guys are complaining a lot about the way other clients write reviews or post on the forum, it's time to leave the board all this man bashing is getting intolerable
(this is also a joke)

I guess sometimes the purpose of Merb is entirely forgotten.
For me it is a review board for men to be able to make a good choice as to who they pick as a companion and not to be scammed and to be safe.
Yes this should be done respectfully without dehumanizing anybody.

It is not meant for posters to cozy up to SP posting here to be in their good graces and then feel good about themselves and how popular they are.
Yes the clients can’t be without SP but neither can SP make a living without clients.

 

[Flyingby]

Flyingby,

When there is a pattern of many positive reviews of mostly new providers, what you are suggesting is reviews for discounts or freebies.

NO
Read my post 186
What I am saying is he is misleading new members with his reviews

 

[EagerBeaver]

NO
Read my post 186
What I am saying is he is misleading new members with his reviews

My apologies, that is what I thought you were suggesting. I didn't read your post 186 because this thread is growing and expanding in explosive bursts and I haven't read all posts. I did go back and read it now, and understand your meaning now.

I should note that in the past, a proliferation of positive reviews on newer or less reviewed providers always suggested to me that it's a bargain hunter who is writing the reviews. Meaning the poster is getting discounts or freebies in exchange for the reviews.

Now that being said I have not read ANY of Obvio Obvio's reviews and I do not usually read anyone else's either because I am no longer active in Montreal. When I was active 2001-2019 I did read reviews and observe these trends and most people kind of knew who the bargain hunters were.

 

[Rebaynia]

Hahahah "humor was outside my catch"
Nice way of saying my joke wasn’t that good!! lol appreciate it (and I can take it!)l

Oh no.. I fully blame it on myself lol.. I know there is a whole line of humor my logical mind misses and misunderstands is intended as humor. It's been a life long realization that I have a 'dunce zone' in humor.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I should note that in the past, a proliferation of positive reviews on newer or less reviewed providers always suggested to me that it's a bargain hunter who is writing the reviews. Meaning the poster is getting discounts or freebies in exchange for the reviews.

This is true, it can be easy for a lot of new providers to be taken advantage of. This needs to be said because clients (the majority of clients are actually kind and respectful, no client bashing happening here) who don't know what happens behind the scenes need to understand why reviews can be harmful, unless they are written by respectful and well intentioned people.

That being said, it's not because somebody keeps seeing new providers and writes positive reviews for them that he's done something weird. It's just something to keep in mind.

And also good press if it's not honest could hurt a new provider who is still learning about the industry and not ready to deal with an influx of inquiries from overly demanding and jaded clients who are always looking for novelty and low rates. Keep in mind that this is a minority of clients. But we wouldn't want to send this very very small portion of clients who are predatory to new providers, would we?

 

[G8915mr]

I’m really just not trying to miss the debate between members. But here’s my mini two sense.

I don’t really care for reviews, we all have different things that tickle our fancies. That being said simple interaction and reading sites goes a long way. Reviews are all over the place it seems. Some really go above and beyond (erotic novels), others act like they’re the greatest thing since sliced bread (ego boosts) and then there are the rude ones (no comment).

 

[EagerBeaver]

This is true, it can be easy for a lot of new providers to be taken advantage of.

I do not particularly understand the connection between your comment and what I posted. Bargain hunters do not take advantage of new providers. They pay less, but earn the savings by providing the publicity of a positive review. It's a quid pro quo arrangement. The provider cuts her rate, in exchange he helps her publicize her services with a positive review.

What bargain hunters take advantage of is the board membership at large by providing a review they were paid for, without disclosing the consideration or the quid pro quo arrangement. They are behaving as shills, but are not telling anyone. They emphasize the positive and deemphasize the negative, purposefully, so as to continue getting paid for reviews in the form of less expensive sex than what everyone else is paying for. To me, what is taken advantage of is the truth, and the board members who read the reviews hoping to learn about the SP's service.

 

[Jordd]

Are you replying to your own posts on purpose?

Looks like he messed up and wrote to himself on the wrong account. We’re onto "both" of you! lol

 

[Jordd]

Wow. Resorting to skirts and wigs now? That’s your idea of an argument? Impressive. Nothing says: I’ve run out of valid points, like dragging in sexist hypotheticals to play the victim.

If you think respect is something owed to you just for posting, maybe stop acting like a parody of yourself. You don’t get to whine about being treated unfairly while lobbing petty insults and trying to derail every conversation that doesn’t go your way.

If your reviews were half as solid as your victim complex, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

And as if that wasn’t enough, each review thread ends up cluttered with you and a handful of others exchanging fake congratulations like it’s some kind of private fan club. That’s not community engagement it’s noise, and it pushes real discussion out.

Your contribution to this thread? Oh, just a chaotic blend of irrelevant rambling, emotional outbursts, and self-glorifying monologues. If the goal was to derail the conversation and drown it in noise, mission accomplished. From the beginning, it’s been less about discussion and more about sabotaging the thread before anyone dares hold you accountable and frankly it’s pathetic.

You’ve still ignored the real issues: the way you refer to women as files, the fact that your reviews read more like personal fantasies than actual reports, and how every single one follows the exact same structure, tone, and pacing, like they were written by AI.

That level of copy-paste uniformity doesn’t scream genuine contribution, it screams automation and detachment.

And now, after all the drama about being “done writing reviews,” it’s obvious you’re just laying the groundwork to walk that back and spin it like you’re doing the community a favour. It’s not integrity, it’s ego. And frankly, it’s getting old.

Bravo! Well said.
You’re the most eloquent one here. (sound like anyone?)

 

[Jordd]

I hope everyone here always loves their job as blue knights, red knights, orange knights, green knights, and purple knights, and avoid complaining about all the annoying (but gorgeous and smart and kind) princesses they have to deal with

Have a fabulous day and week!

<<<< White Knight with blue balls here Ahahhahah

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

I do not particularly understand the connection between your comment and what I posted. Bargain hunters do not take advantage of new providers. They pay less, but earn the savings by providing the publicity of a positive review. It's a quid pro quo arrangement. The provider cuts her rate, in exchange he helps her publicize her services with a positive review.

What bargain hunters take advantage of is the board membership at large by providing a review they were paid for, without disclosing the consideration or the quid pro quo arrangement. They are behaving as shills, but are not telling anyone. They emphasize the positive and deemphasize the negative, purposefully, so as to continue getting paid for reviews in the form of less expensive sex than what everyone else is paying for. To me, what is taken advantage of is the truth, and the board members who read the reviews hoping to learn about the SP's service.

With all due respect, my friend, are you certain you’ve never read my reviews? Let’s go back to the period between 2006 and 2010. Allow me to remind you of Obvio007. The last time I recall, you enjoyed my reviews and mentioned them multiple times. I find it hard to believe that someone of your caliber and a legend on Merb would be involved in this discussion about me. Perhaps you don’t realize that it’s consistently the same 6-7 members who continue to talk about criticizing me and undermining the credibility of my reviews. If you combine all their contributions, I believe the most recent review from one of them dates back to 2023. Now, I hope you see the pattern: I’ve posted more reviews in a single year than all of them in a lifetimes combined. It’s the same small group of detractors who contribute nothing to the community. One member comes up with false claims about me, and the same group of sheep’s follows them to start the new trend of bashing me. I appreciate the hype, but if they’re still talking about me, it’s probably because they dislike me for contributing more than they do. The same groups tends to hide valuable gems and only shares them privately among themselves, perhaps fearing that if they post reviews openly, the providers might get booked and they’ll miss out. I believe the hostility toward me began once I started exposing those hidden gems.

 

[Jordd]

29 excepts from @Obvio-0bvio “defense” in his 20 public posts on this thread

• Keep your stupid comments to yourself”
• “You’re not in the same league”
• “You’re only here to challenge members or make irrelevant posts”
• “You bring nothing to Merb but negativity”
• “Clowns who talk trash about me”
• “You’re nothing but pathetic hypocrites”
• “Probably just overweight, old frustrated guys hiding behind a screen”
• “Keyboard geeks with no lives”
• “You must be really unhappy and miserable with yourself”
• “Find someone else to bully”
• “You don’t write any reviews and you’re simply a character on this forum”
• “Your entire existence revolves around this forum”
• “Thanks for the free laugh”
• “Honestly, I really can’t be bothered to read your novels”
• “What an epic adventure being a character behind a screen!”
• “It’s hilarious how all you clowns… bring nothing but negativity”
• “I couldn’t care less what Beavis and Butthead think”
• “If I was wearing a skirt and a wig, would you still have the same disrespectful attitude?”
• “You don’t understand what you’re talking about”
• “The character you’re trying to portray is just an illusion meant to boost your ego”
• “I wouldn’t even bother giving you the time of day”
• “They attempt to make you look stupid in public”
• “Rotten apples… ruined it for everyone”
• “You probably wouldn’t show up because the character you portray is fake”
• “Most members just read and have nothing to give back”
• “You’re desperate to feel alive”
• “People like you should be ashamed”
• “Shame on you for ruining this for others”
• “if you choose to join those clowns who target members, be prepared to face the same treatment”

Everyone deserves to participate here without being insulted, mocked, or belittled. Whether on this thread or in any other forum.

WOW putting it all together like that just gave me a "Usual Suspects" moment.

There’s so much variety in the language. I don’t think the same insult was used twice. That screams AI and/or heavy use of a Thesaurus, especially from someone with a poor handle of English and sorry to say, serious pathology between the ears.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I do not particularly understand the connection between your comment and what I posted. Bargain hunters do not take advantage of new providers. They pay less, but earn the savings by providing the publicity of a positive review. It's a quid pro quo arrangement. The provider cuts her rate, in exchange he helps her publicize her services with a positive review.

What bargain hunters take advantage of is the board membership at large by providing a review they were paid for, without disclosing the consideration or the quid pro quo arrangement. They are behaving as shills, but are not telling anyone. They emphasize the positive and deemphasize the negative, purposefully, so as to continue getting paid for reviews in the form of less expensive sex than what everyone else is paying for. To me, what is taken advantage of is the truth, and the board members who read the reviews hoping to learn about the SP's service.

In my opinion this can create situations in which providers get taken advantage of. I don't think it's fair for clients to ask for a discount in exchange for a positive review. This also implies there might have been a threat to write a bad review, or an unrealistic promise for a provider to be really successful due to one single positive review.

As you probably understand since you're familiar with this industry, a lot of providers are not in great financial situations when they begin, so they might be more inclined to get low balled and manipulated by a client who never even mentioned a review to begin with.

Most providers are unaware of the existence of this review board unless they are told by an employer or colleague. Having reviews was the last thing on my mind when I entered this industry, personally. I don't want to judge, I'm sure it happens, but lowering my rate for a good review is something that never even crossed my mind.

Something doesn't add up. Some colleagues of mine have 0 reviews and do very well. So why would some girls be willing to give a discount or free services in exchange for one first positive review? To me they have to be very naive and easy to manipulate, or in a really bad financial situation. This is why to me the client in these cases is taking advantage of these girls. But that's my personal opinion... (Said it twice, take it with a grain of salt)

And unfortunately this makes clients doubt that providers positive reviews are even accurate.

 

[EagerBeaver]

With all due respect, my friend, are you certain you’ve never read my reviews? Let’s go back to the period between 2006 and 2010. Allow me to remind you of Obvio007.

Your profile says you joined in 2023. Assuming you posted under the handle Obvio007 from 2006 to 2010, it's quite likely I did read them. But I don't remember them. I would not let that hurt your feelings too much, since I don't remember shite these days.

However, under the current handle you have used since 2023, I can assure you I haven't read any of your reviews, nor have I read much of anyone else's. So I cannot comment on whether you are being righteously or wrongfully persecuted by the posters you mentioned. And I don't really feel like reading them just to decide which it is.

 

[Jordd]

With all due respect, my friend, are you certain you’ve never read my reviews? Let’s go back to the period between 2006 and 2010. Allow me to remind you of Obvio007. The last time I recall, you enjoyed my reviews and mentioned them multiple times. I find it hard to believe that someone of your caliber and a legend on Merb would be involved in this discussion about me. Perhaps you don’t realize that it’s consistently the same 6-7 members who continue to talk about criticizing me and undermining the credibility of my reviews. If you combine all their contributions, I believe the most recent review from one of them dates back to 2023. Now, I hope you see the pattern: I’ve posted more reviews in a single year than all of them in a lifetimes combined. It’s the same small group of detractors who contribute nothing to the community. One member comes up with false claims about me, and the same group of sheep’s follows them to start the new trend of bashing me. I appreciate the hype, but if they’re still talking about me, it’s probably because they dislike me for contributing more than they do. The same groups tends to hide valuable gems and only shares them privately among themselves, perhaps fearing that if they post reviews openly, the providers might get booked and they’ll miss out. I believe the hostility toward me began once I started exposing those hidden gems.

More mental health… you don’t even realize that everyone’s trying to help you….

 

[Lionelmessi]

You clearly didn't pick on the irony in my comment.
Sorry, I forgot to CLEARLY STATE that something hyperbolic I wrote is a joke.

Also saying "we'll avoid the providers he reviewed" just because these reviews don't seem genuine to you and because you don't like him is punishing these providers and hurting their business, it doesn't affect him.. it's just not cool in my opinion.

Let’s get back to the actual issue. You’re saying that avoiding providers he reviewed is “punishing them”. That only makes sense if you assume his reviews genuinely help them, and I don’t. When a review is vague, formulaic, and made of recycled phrases, it brings no real value. On the contrary, it can be damaging.

And frankly, I’ve yet to see a single one of his reviews line up with anything verifiable. Where’s the SP saying, “Yes, that copy-paste template genuinely reflected our session”?

Since he supposedly has such an active social life and sees so many providers, surely one of them, maybe even you, since you’re defending him so strongly, can step up and say, “Yes, what he wrote about me was accurate, insightful, and personal. It captured our time together perfectly.” Or even just, “That review actually helped my business.”

Until then I will demonstrate the opposite based in real facts.
Take the example of an SP who was once accused of having hygiene issues. That comment had been buried for over a year, until he brought it up again in a review, referencing that he’d “read something along those lines.”

He didn’t stop there: in the months that followed, he kept alluding to it indirectly, thanking other reviewers for “not mentioning it,” while praising them for supposedly sharing his perspective.

So instead of letting the subject die, he single-handedly kept it alive. not once, but over several reviews, for three consecutive months.

And every time, he’d throw in some version of “but her hygiene was fine,” as if that somehow made it okay. That’s not neutral, his posts added no new valuable information to the review thread . That’s casually dragging someone through the mud while pretending to walk away clean.

Ask yourself what’s actually harmful here: criticizing a review format that’s lazy and potentially damaging, or defending it because it sounds polite on the surface.

It’s not about disliking him. This isn’t high scbool, it’s not personal. I’m pointing out the real impact of what he posts. If calling that behaviour out is “not cool” then I’I’ll happily go to prom alone. At least I won’t be dancing around the truth.

 

[EagerBeaver]

In my opinion this can create situations in which providers get taken advantage of. I don't think it's fair for clients to ask for a discount in exchange for a positive review. This also implies there might have been a threat to write a bad review, or an unrealistic promise for a provider to be really successful due to one single positive review.

I think you are quite right about this, although in the post you commented on I mainly intended to point out the unfairness to the board membership at large.

There is one other unfairness I did touch on. The discounts for reviews poster I mentioned rarely emphasized the negative in his reviews, except when a girl couldn't take his merciless poundings. The poster in question stood at about 6'7" and weighed around 250. In other words, he was as big as Aaron Judge. And he happened to like to pound girls relentlessly, so that the bed springs were screaming and almost snapping. Everyone in the industry at that time knew this, it wasn't a secret. A few girls, mostly the petite ones, and those with very tight or sensitive pussies, didn't do well from the poundings. They were sore afterwards and some couldn't see clients afterwards. A lot of this was known in the industry at the time. I thought it to be very unfair to them, but then I heard that the agencies also booked those girls with him last, knowing that they wouldn't be able to see other clients after.

In person, he was, to me, a sweet guy, a somewhat gentle giant and someone who likely believed that all the women he pounded not only could take, but enjoyed the pounding he gave them. He made me laugh pretty hard one time without trying to, and was quite a character. But, at that time, I did feel sorry for the girls who were physically hurt by the poundings and then didn't even have a good review to show for it.

So yeah, it can be very unfair to the SP as well.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Let’s get back to the actual issue. You’re saying that avoiding providers he reviewed is “punishing them”. That only makes sense if you assume his reviews genuinely help them, and I don’t. When a review is vague, formulaic, and made of recycled phrases, it brings no real value. On the contrary, it can be damaging.

And frankly, I’ve yet to see a single one of his reviews line up with anything verifiable. Where’s the SP saying, “Yes, that copy-paste template genuinely reflected our session”?

Since he supposedly has such an active social life and sees so many providers, surely one of them, maybe even you, since you’re defending him so strongly, can step up and say, “Yes, what he wrote about me was accurate, insightful, and personal. It captured our time together perfectly.” Or even just, “That review actually helped my business.”

Until then I will demonstrate the opposite based in real facts.
Take the example of an SP who was once accused of having hygiene issues. That comment had been buried for over a year, until he brought it up again in a review, referencing that he’d “read something along those lines.”

He didn’t stop there: in the months that followed, he kept alluding to it indirectly, thanking other reviewers for “not mentioning it,” while praising them for supposedly sharing his perspective.

So instead of letting the subject die, he single-handedly kept it alive. not once, but over several reviews, for three consecutive months.

And every time, he’d throw in some version of “but her hygiene was fine,” as if that somehow made it okay. That’s not neutral, his posts added no new valuable information to the review thread . That’s casually dragging someone through the mud while pretending to walk away clean.

Ask yourself what’s actually harmful here: criticizing a review format that’s lazy and potentially damaging, or defending it because it sounds polite on the surface.

It’s not about disliking him. This isn’t high scbool, it’s not personal. I’m pointing out the real impact of what he posts. If calling that behaviour out is “not cool” then I’I’ll happily go to prom alone. At least I won’t be dancing around the truth.

I don't know him, I'm not trying to defend him. I mostly avoid reading reviews because frankly I don't like it. I've never read his reviews, I don't have the time to do that. Now with the context you gave me I understand what you guys are alluding to a bit better.. a point based rating system won't fix these problems tho.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

I don't know why you're saying I'm humiliating you when all I'm doing is reading the words you type and saying that you need to stop acting like you're the greatest gift this forum was blessed with. And pointing out the irony/contrast with some of the things you posted.

If you don't intend to come across this way, then maybe reevaluate the way you speak about your contribution to merb.

You've disrespected service providers on this very board but I digress.

Yeah, have a good day as well.

Edit to add : complaining that people are bullying you because they *checks notes* respond to your posts where you insult members is certainly a choice.

Do you honestly believe I don’t respect service providers? It seems you’re misinformed about me. I am one of the most gentlemanly and kind individuals you will ever meet, and agency owners and service providers from various agencies can attest to this. I sometimes add a bit of seasoning like salt and pepper to my reviews to make them more engaging, but I do so without ever disrespecting or degrading the service providers. If you think my reviews are bad towards service providers , then you haven't read many reviews on this forum. It’s astonishing how some members shame and demean service providers, yet you suggest that my use of certain words to spice up my reviews indicates a lack of respect. If that’s your perspective, then you truly don’t know me at all and are misrepresenting my character and reputation.I’m not referring to MERB but to agency staff and service providers working for those agencies. Since I was 20, I’ve interacted with over 500 service providers never a single complaint, only excellent feedback. I understand you might be influenced by rumors and trends to make this thread more interesting, but in reality, you don’t know me. The facts I’ve shared are accurate . If you anyone can prove the contrary then I am the most untrustworthy member on this forum, and everything I’ve said even my reviews are lies. Go ahead and try to prove me wrong. I know some of you enjoy digging up dirt and playing detective. If you succeed, I will leave this forum and never return. But I know who I am, and I am proud of my reputation as a respectful client, a client every agency dream.