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[jeffmathers]

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

I wish people read what you, Luna, and other SPs type. All of you are well spoken and articulate yourselves well but I feel people are somehow not understanding. I hope things get better for you all.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I hope things get better for you all.

I really think we’ve never had better conditions to do this work than we do now. But there's still work to do, a lot.

 

[Rebaynia]

I wish people read what you, Luna, and other SPs type. All of you are well spoken and articulate yourselves well but I feel people are somehow not understanding. I hope things get better for you all.

Oh I agree. I will also admit, because of how media presents us, and what I have witnessed some people treat & talk about providers, I had trouble accepting in myself that this was something I wanted and needed in my life to feel fulfilled. It has only been since I have had the pleasure of meeting others like Luna, Julia, and more, that I have grown proud to be a provider, because I see such amazing, intelligent and quality people.

 

[Fradi]

We get your point... you don't want to hear that there is a dangerous side of this job. You want your fantasy that this is a blessing to do this and we all have great expieriences and should love what we do...

Please understand the ones we comment on in the negative, are rarely the hobbyists we actually see. These are the men who throw up so many red flags before even getting to a booking, that we aren't complaining about our clients, but the potential clients who we refuse to see.

Now a point I have made to my master before as well... You know your friends as you see them when they are with their bros, they are charismatic, fun, a bros bro. You are in denial that that same man who is cool with you, can have an ax to grind about how their relationships have been, and though you see a good guy, their views on women and how they treat them can be very different when they are alone with a woman behind closed doors.
I have warned many clients in the past about vouching for the character of their friend. That I have had such bad expieriences in cases where a client I liked vouched for a friend, and the expierience with their friend went poorly enough I fired the orrigional client as well because the expierience tainted my ability to enjoy the original any longer.

You don't like hearing the truth of the darker side of this world, but we live it, and unfortunately, the very ones you don't want to hear about when it is braught up, we the fem presenting population often need the masculine presenting side to correct the behaviors and share in letting men women are in danger around, know it is unacceptable, because their heads are so far up their ass that rather then want to understand their behaviors are wrong, they are so narcissistic that they blame all women for not accepting them, when it is their behavior that keeps the women away. And understand those ones, that perpetually remain single because this is how they are, are left with no other option than contacting providers, but still carry those same dangerous and nasty tendencies to us as well. Just because we are providers, doesn't mean it is acceptable to treat us badly. They treat "respectable" women poorly, how do you think they aim to treat us when they have us alone.

No not all clients are like that. Most we see are pretty amazing, I adore my regulars, they are some pretty amazing men, and sometimes I wonder how it is they stay single. But doesn't change that I get disrespectful inquiries every day, while inquiries I accept happen once every few days.

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either

Nobody here is bashing men. That's what you don't understand. We're not bashing men in general we're just discussing clients who are disrespectful and you're taking that personally because you think we're talking about all men, and we aren't.

Advising us to do something else also isn't helpful. I said many times I love my job. I don't feel in danger because I protect myself.

 

[Rebaynia]

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.
We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either.

No one is bashing men. We are calling out human behavior that would make the current threads goal of a star rating not as great the idea as the OP thought. In theory, everyone is honest and only rates those they have seen and rates honestly. But in practice, that is not the how things play out in the real world.

And it doesn't look like the sites that do allow the star rating, is the one being used in the end.

 

[Enjoying life]

Nobody here is bashing men. That's what you don't understand. We're not bashing men in general we're just discussing clients who are disrespectful and you're taking that personally because you think we're talking about all men, and we aren't.

Advising us to do something else also isn't helpful. I said many times I love my job. I don't feel in danger because I protect myself.

Luna is top notch!

 

[jeffmathers]

I really think we’ve never had better conditions to do this work than we do now. But there's still work to do, a lot.

I agree. A friend in your industry outside of Montreal gifted me some books by Melissa Gira Grant and other authors and it's fascinating. The history and the contemporary situation around the world is one of my interests.

 

[jeffmathers]

As this thread continues in circles it makes me think of the phrase "You can't get someone to logic out of something they didn't logic their way into."
Si qelqun n'a pas utilise la logiq pour atteindre sa destination, il est peu probable q vous puissiez l'aider a quitter son lieu d'origine.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

I mean to be fair... Most members have the exact same access you have to service providers. This isn't what people mean usually when they say they have a very active social life btw



Members have always come and gone on here. If you're not reviewing a lady someone else eventually will. You aren't the greatest gift this forum was blessed with, nobody really is. It's your choice if you stop posting reviews and it's okay, I just don't think anyone will grieve to the extent you're making it seem

Wow, thank you so much for your comment, but now I must clarify and defend my position. it's truly inspiring how you managed to dismiss all my reviews as if they didn't matter at all, along with the effort and time I put into them. Honestly, to come here and claim that if it's not me writing reviews, then someone else is, is completely off the mark. Wake up, darling. Reviews are dying on this forum, and if you actually took the time to look, you'd see that most discussions are just inquiries about the menu rather than genuine reviews. They are maybe 100 to 150 active members contributing reviews on a regular basis and considering there are 140,000 registered members, your assumption that someone else is filling in for me is simply delusional. You have a funny way of seeing things. Most members here just read reviews to get information for their best interests and then have nothing to give back to the community. Instead, they spend their time stirring up drama in the lounge, distracting from those who genuinely contribute.But honestly, it's disappointing to see how much unnecessary drama has taken over the lounge section and people seem to have forgotten the real purpose of this forum.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

And the plot thickens…

In my previous replies, I gave you several chances to clear things up, but instead, you doubled down on the whole victim card / cry wolf routine. So I figured, why not take your advice literally?

To my own dismay, I actually sat down and read all your reviews from top to bottom. And guess what? Reading them back-to-back is… enlightening. Not because of the content, but because of how painfully obvious the patterns are.

Same structure. Same language. Same rhythm. Honestly, they read like lap dances smooth, mechanical, and all blur together. After a few of them, it feels like reading the same script over and over. Makes for a decent bedtime story if your goal is to fall asleep.

So, out of curiosity, I picked four reviews at random — Aliyah, Miranda, Camille, and Namtan — and pasted them into ChatGPT and search for similarities. I didn’t say if they were written by the same of multiple authors. .

Let’s just say… it confirmed what anyone with a basic sense of pattern recognition could already tell.

If you’re bored at home, you can do the same thing I did: randomly pick any four of his reviews

Copy-paste, ask ChatGPT if it sees any similarities.


Spoiler: It does. In detail. (Should try the spoiler function sorry)

I know you said you don’t have time to waste on this but trust me, it actually makes for some surprisingly entertaining reading.

Here goes…I reproduced the answer exactly as it is only reduced the spacing but changed nothing of the wording didn’t add didn’t delete.

“
These reviews weren’t written by different people.

They weren’t even written by one.

They were written by an AI.

Here’s how you can tell

1. Identical structure across all reviews

Each one follows the same formula:


Introduction → Looks description → Shower → BJ → Sex → Praise + review scores → “Two thumbs up”


There’s zero variation in tone, rhythm, or storytelling. They’re basically copy-paste templates with different names.

2. Over-polished, cliché-heavy language


Examples pulled straight from AI-generated writing:

• “Two thumbs up, way up”
• “Like a delicate doll”
• “Canvas of curves begging to be explored”
• “Lost myself entirely in the experience”
• “This wasn’t your typical Leolist encounter”

Real people don’t write like this consistently — but AI does.

3. Recycled sexual phrasing


Every review includes:

• Deep eye contact during BJ
• Ball licking
• “Like enjoying a lollipop”
• “Explosion all over me”
• “Silky smooth mouth”
• “Tight pussy”

It’s the same lines dressed up in slightly different wrapping. This is a pattern, not a coincidence.

4. Copy-paste scoring format

Every review ends with the same scoring chart:

Body, Face, Service, Attitude, GFE, Repeat, Agency, etc.

Same categories, same order, always glowing. No nuance, no variation, no criticism = not human.

Bottom line:

This isn’t honest feedback.

It’s marketing, generated by one guy using AI to boost certain girls or agencies.

If you’re relying on these reviews to make decisions, just know: you’re trusting bots, not clients. “

Im sharing my answer from Chatgpt and invite you to try for yourself.

If someone repeatedly claims he’s trustworthy, there’s your cue that he most likely isn’t

Since you clearly have so much extra time on your hands and love to scrutinize my reviews, I might as well give you a real challenge. I’m on the hunt for Waldo, and I’d be just thrilled if you could help me find him. it's so obvious that your detective skills are nothing short of spectacular and unmatched.Let me know if you're interested. You might even get paid for your Nobel work.

 

[Enjoying life]

Since you clearly have so much extra time on your hands and love to scrutinize my reviews, I might as well give you a real challenge. I’m on the hunt for Waldo, and I’d be just thrilled if you could help me find him. it's so obvious that your detective skills are nothing short of spectacular and unmatched.Let me know if you're interested. You might even get paid for your Nobel work.

Obvio is always a pleasure to chat with and his reviews are very encouraging!

 

[Lionelmessi]

Since you clearly have so much extra time on your hands and love to scrutinize my reviews, I might as well give you a real challenge. I’m on the hunt for Waldo, and I’d be just thrilled if you could help me find him. it's so obvious that your detective skills are nothing short of spectacular and unmatched.Let me know if you're interested. You might even get paid for your Nobel work.

As requested, I went on a quest to find Waldo.
And wouldn’t you know, I found him.

Right there in the Noemie@Vog thread, referring to a her as a “file to close and move on from.”

So thanks for the assignment, because you just proved my point.

People keep arguing that stars are dehumanizing but reducing a woman to a “file” isn’t?

Somehow that’s fine under the current setup?

Comments like yours are exactly why I suggested a helpful/not helpful button

When I want to see a service provider, I don’t beat around the bush, I get it done and close the file, and move on to the next. Simple as that.This file has been dragging on forever.

Not a review. Not constructive.
Simple condescending remarks posted like its casual conversation.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly did you think your contribution was adding to Noemie’s review thread?

Because from here, it looks like pure ego with a side of disrespect.

Waldo was never lost. He was just out here casually objectifying providers in plain sight.

Case closed. No need to pay me
This one’s on the house.

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

As requested, I went on a quest to find Waldo.
And wouldn’t you know, I found him.

Right there in the Noemie@Vog thread, referring to a her as a “file to close and move on from.”

So thanks for the assignment, because you just proved my point.

People keep arguing that stars are dehumanizing but reducing a woman to a “file” isn’t?

Somehow that’s fine under the current setup?

Comments like yours are exactly why I suggested a helpful/not helpful button



Not a review. Not constructive.
Simple condescending remarks posted like its casual conversation.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly did you think your contribution was adding to Noemie’s review thread?

Because from here, it looks like pure ego with a side of disrespect.

Waldo was never lost. He was just out here casually objectifying providers in plain sight.

Case closed. No need to pay me
This one’s on the house.

At least I take the time to write reviews and share my reviews with everyone. At the very least, agencies and service providers can confirm each of my experiences as detailed in my reviews. However, I’m quite certain that nothing can be said about you, since you don’t write any reviews and you're simply a character on this forum.Meanwhile, all you seem to do is try to dig up dirt on other members. You must be really unhappy and miserable with yourself. It’s sad to see you constantly trying to create this persona on the forum. If I invited you for drinks, you probably wouldn’t show up because the character you’re trying to portray is just an illusion meant to boost your ego and confidence. On the other hand, I’d be more than happy to accept anyone invitation, as I have nothing to hide and am proud to be myself. The offer for drinks still stands, and I’d be happy to pay, but I know you’d never have the courage to show your face in real life.What an epic adventure being a character behind a screen!

 

[Jordd]

LoL, sorry, the humor was outside my catch. (I can be pretty dense with some kinds of humor.) I love puns, but sarcastic humor can go over my head and under my feet, leaving me completely clueless a funny was made.

Hahahah "humor was outside my catch"
Nice way of saying my joke wasn’t that good!! lol appreciate it (and I can take it!)

 

[Jordd]

I have one advice only.
If it is so bad and so dangerous do something else like millions of other women do.

Brother, that was a low blow. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

We all know that there are men and women who are dangerous in this business exist, continually harping on it in every thread does nothing to change that.
Nobody said it is acceptable behaviour and nobody is condoning it that however is not going to change anything just like continually bashing men will not either.

I don’t find they are continually bashing men. It is brought up occasionally. Since you are not one of those guys, you have nothing to worry about. If it makes some guys question their behavior, that would be a good thing. And more women would stay in this business.
How would advising them to leave do any good?

 

[Jordd]

Wow, thank you so much for your comment, but now I must clarify and defend my position. it's truly inspiring how you managed to dismiss all my reviews as if they didn't matter at all, along with the effort and time I put into them. Honestly, to come here and claim that if it's not me writing reviews, then someone else is, is completely off the mark. Wake up, darling. Reviews are dying on this forum, and if you actually took the time to look, you'd see that most discussions are just inquiries about the menu rather than genuine reviews. They are maybe 100 to 150 active members contributing reviews on a regular basis and considering there are 140,000 registered members, your assumption that someone else is filling in for me is simply delusional. You have a funny way of seeing things. Most members here just read reviews to get information for their best interests and then have nothing to give back to the community. Instead, they spend their time stirring up drama in the lounge, distracting from those who genuinely contribute.But honestly, it's disappointing to see how much unnecessary drama has taken over the lounge section and people seem to have forgotten the real purpose of this forum.

It’s got to be said, among all of the other criticism you’ve received. You are acting totally entitled. You are not the only one writing reviews. You are also delusional about your reviews. They are not worth the time you claim to spend on them. They are verbose, over the top and insulting to say the least. There is not much value in repeated fake and glowing reviews regardless of the subject. Not to mention they’re written using AI, as eloquentely determined by Lionelmessi.

 

[Jordd]

At least I take the time to write reviews and share my reviews with everyone. At the very least, agencies and service providers can confirm each of my experiences as detailed in my reviews. However, I’m quite certain that nothing can be said about you, since you don’t write any reviews and you're simply a character on this forum.Meanwhile, all you seem to do is try to dig up dirt on other members. You must be really unhappy and miserable with yourself. It’s sad to see you constantly trying to create this persona on the forum. If I invited you for drinks, you probably wouldn’t show up because the character you’re trying to portray is just an illusion meant to boost your ego and confidence. On the other hand, I’d be more than happy to accept anyone invitation, as I have nothing to hide and am proud to be myself. The offer for drinks still stands, and I’d be happy to pay, but I know you’d never have the courage to show your face in real life.What an epic adventure being a character behind a screen!

Red flags… so many

 

[Fradi]

Brother, that was a low blow. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.


I don’t find they are continually bashing men. It is brought up occasionally. Since you are not one of those guys, you have nothing to worry about. If it makes some guys question their behavior, that would be a good thing. And more women would stay in this business.
How would advising them to leave do any good?

I would advise anyone to leave who continually complains. It is brought up way more than occasionally.
Life is about freedom of choice, choosing a profession that you are happy doing is extremely rewarding.

You want to be a white knight great. Like I said I don’t get swayed by people.
That is what’s wrong with men today they won’t stick up for their beliefs and want to be popular above all lol.

 

[Fradi]

Obvio is always a pleasure to chat with and his reviews are very encouraging!

Was this AI generated ? Just want to make sure.