Am I changing or is the industry changing?

[void747]

New to this "hobby". I find it MERB relatively simple and safe to vet and choose SP (whether for intimacy or intense PSE).

Although, not a lot of experience, I set myself a certain budget per visit to limit my expectations vs reality upon visit.

Most of my initial visit is 30min. That way, it gives both side the vibe check. If I feel she appreciate me as client, I would opt for a return for 1h. Else, I simply choose another provider.

I wouldn't jump at double my price point since I am not looking for specific criteria or exotic needs (intimacy can be exotic for some).

Yet again, I respect SP provider who choose this line of work. Sometimes, they may encounter good customer, sometimes it's bad, but suck up to it (maybe unreasonable action/demand).

Pre-covid, I wouldn't really dare to go BP or CL as it may looks weird as compared to nowadays, it seems more socially acceptable. If you pay for the services, both side "consent" within what SP describes in her services. Reviews sections provide potential clients to see if it's within their expectations or not.

 

[Jebmtl]

Yeah I agree..

What I have to blame: laws related to sex work, the economy, misconceptions and prejudices in society.. etc

If I’m not mistaken the law c36 is there to protect you.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

If I’m not mistaken the law c36 is there to protect you.

You should read on why the current laws are still not great for anyone involved

Here

 

[Valentina Amante]

But now these clients have to bother everyone and ask if they offer this kind of experience?

Why would a client bother anyone for social dates? This site is primarily used for intimate reasons. I think if a woman is advertising for intimacy - social dates aren’t as “invasive” lol and chances are that it’s gonna be mentioned or not in her profile if she offers that as well…
The clients already are bothered having to understand which girl does what and if they actually “perform” instead of talking the whole time.

I don't get eyelash extensions but I still don't think it's a problem when they're advertised at the nail salon even if I only go for nails. It's a service under the same umbrella (beauty). It's normal for businesses to advertise the various services they offer. I haven't really seen any ad where the person said they ONLY offer social, have you? Maybe that's where the misunderstanding comes from because this isn't something I've come across.

Correct, they know what they’re looking for when they go on the website to book their appointments: if they want nails they’ll go on the nail tab and if they want lashes they’ll go on the lash tab. It’s not mixed like it is here on merb.
That client is going to show up to the nail appointment and know she’s getting nails done. not lashes. Same principle to men booking a lady and getting the type of service they pay for.

This is why I am saying women that want more casual social dates and hint at preferring them should advertise themselves on a different “tab” or section - that way, it will be clear for which guys to search for strictly intimacy or more of a companionship.

(Also youre the one who used the words "actual working girl" hence why I said let's not gatekeep)

No one is gatekeeping - it was just a figure of speech based on the example I kept using. You girls really need to stop getting offended by minor details, especially when the context is clear and straightforward. I’ve clearly said that every girl is entitled to work however she chooses. That said, “actual working girls” keep getting overlooked because of the “arm candy” types who want to turn a session into a talk show.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Why would a client bother anyone for social dates? This site is primarily used for intimate reasons. I think if a woman is advertising for intimacy - social dates aren’t as “invasive” lol and chances are that it’s gonna be mentioned or not in her profile if she offers that as well…
The clients already are bothered having to understand which girl does what and if they actually “perform” instead of talking the whole time.


Correct, they know what they’re looking for when they go on the website to book their appointments: if they want nails they’ll go on the nail tab and if they want lashes they’ll go on the lash tab. It’s not mixed like it is here on merb.
That client is going to show up to the nail appointment and know she’s getting nails done. not lashes. Same principle to men booking a lady and getting the type of service they pay for.

This is why I am saying women that want more casual social dates and hint at preferring them should advertise themselves on a different “tab” or section - that way, it will be clear for which guys to search for strictly intimacy or more of a companionship.


No one is gatekeeping - it was just a figure of speech based on the example I kept using. You girls really need to stop getting offended by minor details, especially when the context is clear and straightforward. I’ve clearly said that every girl is entitled to work however she chooses. That said, “actual working girls” keep getting overlooked because of the “arm candy” types who want to turn a session into a talk show.

Where are girls offering only social services here on this website? I don't see them.

I understand that some guys have complained that a girl talked too much sometimes but I'm not naive, I don't believe everything that's being said here. Really often there's another side of the story you don't know about.

BTW I'm not offended, you are the one who's offended by how certain girls appear to offer services compared to you.. and you think they are at fault. For what? A gorgeous babe like you is certainly getting plenty of work

 

[Salbandini]

Why would a client bother anyone for social dates? This site is primarily used for intimate reasons. I think if a woman is advertising for intimacy - social dates aren’t as “invasive” lol and chances are that it’s gonna be mentioned or not in her profile if she offers that as well…
The clients already are bothered having to understand which girl does what and if they actually “perform” instead of talking the whole time.


Correct, they know what they’re looking for when they go on the website to book their appointments: if they want nails they’ll go on the nail tab and if they want lashes they’ll go on the lash tab. It’s not mixed like it is here on merb.
That client is going to show up to the nail appointment and know she’s getting nails done. not lashes. Same principle to men booking a lady and getting the type of service they pay for.

This is why I am saying women that want more casual social dates and hint at preferring them should advertise themselves on a different “tab” or section - that way, it will be clear for which guys to search for strictly intimacy or more of a companionship.


No one is gatekeeping - it was just a figure of speech based on the example I kept using. You girls really need to stop getting offended by minor details, especially when the context is clear and straightforward. I’ve clearly said that every girl is entitled to work however she chooses. That said, “actual working girls” keep getting overlooked because of the “arm candy” types who want to turn a session into a talk show.

Ya but lets be honest the “actual working girls” make the people cum pretty fast which in turn leads to a talk show lol .

 

[Julia Sky]

Why would a client bother anyone for social dates? This site is primarily used for intimate reasons. I think if a woman is advertising for intimacy - social dates aren’t as “invasive” lol and chances are that it’s gonna be mentioned or not in her profile if she offers that as well…
The clients already are bothered having to understand which girl does what and if they actually “perform” instead of talking the whole time.


Correct, they know what they’re looking for when they go on the website to book their appointments: if they want nails they’ll go on the nail tab and if they want lashes they’ll go on the lash tab. It’s not mixed like it is here on merb.
That client is going to show up to the nail appointment and know she’s getting nails done. not lashes. Same principle to men booking a lady and getting the type of service they pay for.

This is why I am saying women that want more casual social dates and hint at preferring them should advertise themselves on a different “tab” or section - that way, it will be clear for which guys to search for strictly intimacy or more of a companionship.


No one is gatekeeping - it was just a figure of speech based on the example I kept using. You girls really need to stop getting offended by minor details, especially when the context is clear and straightforward. I’ve clearly said that every girl is entitled to work however she chooses. That said, “actual working girls” keep getting overlooked because of the “arm candy” types who want to turn a session into a talk show.

Because some clients are looking for social dates. Idk about you but personally you wouldn't catch me being the weirdo who goes to the nail salon and complains that they're advertising hair removal and lash extensions, nor would I imply the workers there are fake nail techs and I certainly wouldn't be wondering why someone would want to ask a beauty specialist about lash extensions. Not every salon has a specific tab for each service lol it's often all under the same ad.

Yeah it IS mentioned in our ads and that's the point? Weren't you just complaining about people mentioning that in their ads?

Having a preference for dates of X type doesn't mean someone isn't offering Y type as well I'm confused by your thought process here.

You still have yet to give us an example btw? I haven't seen anyone ever advertise ONLY socials??

Actual working girls work in different ways and that's okay they're still actual working girls lol

 

[Jebmtl]

You should read on why the current laws are still not great for anyone involved

Here

Yes I agree it’s not the best but it’s better than what was before and like everything there’s room to improve and make it better for everyone.
Something that really bothers me is human trafficking I’ve travel to poor countries and it’s so easy for women to get caught up in this. I see the Asian providers in our area women move from one location to the other. I don’t want to start any rumours but it show signs of exploitation and the conditions in which they work and live are far from ideal. My heart breaks for these women. That doesn’t mean that it’s only with Asian any women could be in this situation. As men or women we have the responsibility to inform the our society about this.

But I’m happy that we are able to talk and try to find solutions to address these problems of the sex industry. Some countries are far from where we stand.

 

[Valentina Amante]

Where are girls offering only social services here on this website? I don't see them.

This whole post LC made alludes to how she enjoys the outings + wining and dining. It pretty much sounds like she’s imposing “how the industry changed” finally.

The thread is an actual question. But she answers it herself by saying “So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not” … oh and to not comment anything we don’t like. Maybe this should be a blog then?

We all know what this thread is inspired by lol. I’m all for the sisterhood but not when it’s toxic and it wants to gaslight clients into thinking how things are gonna be working now…

Do you see how ridiculous this is? She’s deciding for the clientele what she wishes to experience... When in the end she works for them.
It’s like me asking the waitress for a coffee and she brings me a BLT instead. Dafuq?

This is exactly why there should be a different site to advertise on. Maybe some girls’ time is up in the industry and instead of wanting to adapt to the industry they expect the industry and clientele to adapt to them… it doesn’t work that way.

To answer her thread in question “Am I changing or is the industry changing?” (That LC basically answered and decided for everyone) - yes, you’ve most probably changed. The industry hasn’t - and making a post trying to gain validation isn’t going to change it either.

Things were easy, simple and booking same day was the norm. People weren’t really asking for screening because you just didn’t have time. It was the fast food era of escorting. You could call a woman like you’d call a pizza place, in less than an hour, she’d be there.

You’re complicated things. Things can still be easy.

Booking same day? Almost a thing of the past, even agencies now won’t be able to accommodate your last minute impulse. That girl that you’ve been drooling over for days, she’s most likely going to be busy and there won’t be anyone similar looking to replace her.

This isn’t true lol. I still have same day bookings - I value my business and accommodate many. This is prime time fear mongering.

Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us.

This is not true either. Lmao. This is projection and showing what she wishes to have as a clientele or else she wouldn’t be on here trying to convince a whole site for booking escorts that this is what happens.

I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more.

I’m fed up of the self entitled girls I swear. Talking down to men like this while they cater to men as their clientele. It’s completely laughable. This is exactly what men don’t want to book - so stop advertising.

So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not.

I like it, I like fun dates, I like the ability to have a temporary boyfriend without all the negative aspects. I don’t have to cook for anyone, he doesn’t have to find my hair in the shower, we don’t need to have the awkward talk about how we’re going to split the household bills.

Me myself and I. No one can relate lol.

What do you like about this new era?

I say it sucks. Girls like you clog up the industry and make it harder for clients to get what they want.

 

[CLOUD 500]

This whole post LC made alludes to how she enjoys the outings + wining and dining. It pretty much sounds like she’s imposing “how the industry changed” finally.

The thread is an actual question. But she answers it herself by saying “So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not” … oh and to not comment anything we don’t like. Maybe this should be a blog then?

We all know what this thread is inspired by lol. I’m all for the sisterhood but not when it’s toxic and it wants to gaslight clients into thinking how things are gonna be working now…

Do you see how ridiculous this is? She’s deciding for the clientele what she wishes to experience... When in the end she works for them.
It’s like me asking the waitress for a coffee and she brings me a BLT instead. Dafuq?

This is exactly why there should be a different site to advertise on. Maybe some girls’ time is up in the industry and instead of wanting to adapt to the industry they expect they industry and clientele to adapt to them… it doesn’t work that way.

To answer her thread in question “Am I changing or is the industry changing?” (That LC basically answered and decided for everyone) - yes, you’ve most probably changed. The industry hasn’t - and making a post trying to gain validation isn’t going to change it either.


You’re complicated things. Things can still be easy.


This isn’t true lol. I still have same day bookings - I value my business and accommodate many. This is prime time fear mongering.


This is not true either. Lmao. This is projection and showing what she wishes to have as a clientele or else she wouldn’t be on here trying to convince a whole site for booking escorts that this is what happens.


I’m fed up of the self entitled girls I swear. Talking down to men like this while they cater to men as their clientele. It’s completely laughable. This is exactly what men don’t want to book - so stop advertising.


Me myself and I. No one can relate lol.


I say it sucks. Girls like you clog up the industry and make it harder for clients to get what they want.

Wow I love this. You are spot on

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Capt fantastic been here awhile. Not sure if hes OG status but He enjoys the interactions with other memebers and quite possibly has made friends through merb. Also theres alot of other topics being discussed about on here except reviews about sps.

dont wanna answer for you captain , but wamted to throw in my two cents . Id like to add This is all an assumption lol

I dont know if the question was directed at me or not, but I dont feel concerned. But the question is definately off topic.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

This whole post LC made alludes to how she enjoys the outings + wining and dining. It pretty much sounds like she’s imposing “how the industry changed” finally.

The thread is an actual question. But she answers it herself by saying “So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not” … oh and to not comment anything we don’t like. Maybe this should be a blog then?

We all know what this thread is inspired by lol. I’m all for the sisterhood but not when it’s toxic and it wants to gaslight clients into thinking how things are gonna be working now…

Do you see how ridiculous this is? She’s deciding for the clientele what she wishes to experience... When in the end she works for them.
It’s like me asking the waitress for a coffee and she brings me a BLT instead. Dafuq?

This is exactly why there should be a different site to advertise on. Maybe some girls’ time is up in the industry and instead of wanting to adapt to the industry they expect the industry and clientele to adapt to them… it doesn’t work that way.

To answer her thread in question “Am I changing or is the industry changing?” (That LC basically answered and decided for everyone) - yes, you’ve most probably changed. The industry hasn’t - and making a post trying to gain validation isn’t going to change it either.


You’re complicated things. Things can still be easy.


This isn’t true lol. I still have same day bookings - I value my business and accommodate many. This is prime time fear mongering.


This is not true either. Lmao. This is projection and showing what she wishes to have as a clientele or else she wouldn’t be on here trying to convince a whole site for booking escorts that this is what happens.


I’m fed up of the self entitled girls I swear. Talking down to men like this while they cater to men as their clientele. It’s completely laughable. This is exactly what men don’t want to book - so stop advertising.


Me myself and I. No one can relate lol.


I say it sucks. Girls like you clog up the industry and make it harder for clients to get what they want.

I think you're assuming a lot about how @LC18 works... You have no idea.

If you have a problem with a certain person I think you should address it individually with her. Just a suggestion. It seems like this comment is rage bait and directed at a specific person. That's not acceptable.

We can all have our opinions about this post, I had a feeling it would cause problems but I don't understand how it's causing problems to your business. I accomodate same day bookings too and I do half hours and 45 minutes..

This feels like bullying honestly. A couple months ago you were complaining about girls offering unsafe services and giving discounts and freebies etc I intervened because I was scared you would get backlash and it ended in me getting tons of guys asking me weird questions and getting death threats on my work phone. Now the problem is girls not working enough. Which one is it?

It's not cool to pit clients against a provider and gossip with clients honestly.

 

[Valentina Amante]

I think you're assuming a lot about how @LC18 works... You have no idea.

If you have a problem with a certain person I think you should address it individually with her. Just a suggestion. It seems like this comment is rage bait and directed at a specific person. That's not acceptable.

We can all have our opinions about this post but I don't understand how it's causing problems to your business. I accomodate same day bookings too and I do half hours and 45 minutes..

This feels like bullying honestly. A couple months ago you were complaining about girls offering unsafe services and giving discounts and freebies etc I intervened because I was scared you would get backlash and it ended in me getting tons of guys asking me weird questions and getting death threats on my work phone. Now the problem is girls not working enough. Which one is it?

It's not cool to pit clients against a provider and gossip with clients honestly. What you're doing is unacceptable.

What. lol. This is a public post Luna. I’m not bullying. I’m giving my opinion she asked for. Didn’t insult her.

You girls gotta stop with the labelling and being over sensitive to factual stuff.

You’re really mixing apples and oranges here. With your comment. If anything you’re rage baiting with the “which one is it?” crap

Stop being so sensitive and if you can’t take the industry or feedback on a public post then maybe it ain’t for you.

 

[DetectiveDavidMills]

 

[LeDodo]

I’m not talking about high-end escorts - I mean anyone in this industry that advertises for that type of experience. This industry is already flooded with girls who think they can do this job but really can’t. The ones who lie about the services they offer, only to end up talking the whole time or wasting it on some social vibe. This isn’t a hangout.

One thing for sure that hasn’t changed: people want sex, and they’re going to look for it. However, these days, from a client’s perspective, it feels a lot more complex. Take LL for example which is the sameish concept as BP - now that’s real fast food - but it’s what people look for. Unfortunately it’s riddled with scammers so they resort to other websites or social media.

Say you’re a potential client who just wants strictly intimacy: If you’re picky and have a specific type, your chances are even slimmer to find the girl you’d like to book. You have to go through each girl’s restrictions, bios, booking processes, all of that. Add in this “new era” of escorting and you’re kind of underwhelmed with the whole process it takes - lots of girls want a minimum of 2H for the first time clients. Like how and why has this gotten so complicated? It shouldn’t be. The clients aren’t new here. It’s the girls. So it’s the girls changing this industry. Not the average Joe who is here because he’s thinking with his dick (like most guys do. Men are simple creatures of habit - they’re not gonna waste their time with this complicated stuff now)

I am also not saying that men don’t look for the dinner dates or social time either.
I’ve done the social stuff as well and it is actually very draining as you say. I’d rather be booked for 1H+ and chill naked instead of having underboob sweat in a musky speakeasy after defying Montreal traffic.

In a client’s POV, the whole point of Backpage was simplicity. I’m not on MERB, LL, or Tryst to find someone to take to the movies or play putt-putt. I’m there to pay for sex. Period. There’s other sites that are more of an “arrangement” type of meet that could be more suitable for the ladies that don’t wanna offer strictly intimacy.

I was wondering for those social dates how chatty the SP has to be to fill the hours

 

[Julia Sky]

Valentina your replies here could honestly be summed with "I am the biggest slut of them all please book me, boys" and you want to imply that this post was an ad in disguise from Lena trying to "impose" anything?

Idk how to tell you this but Lena offers more than just social dates so we're still waiting on an example for the phenomenon you claim exists where an escort is clogging this site with ads for strictly social services. This is the lounge btw.

 

[Fradi]

I was wondering for those social dates how chatty the SP has to be to fill the hours

Some are so chatty they make you go Dodo.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Well, that is entertaining!

 

[Julia Sky]

I was wondering for those social dates how chatty the SP has to be to fill the hours

Pretty much as chatty as any other woman going on a date I would say! The only difference is there's money involved and intimacy is guaranteed but many people are good conversationalists by nature, not just in this business

 

[Valentina Amante]

Valentina your replies here could honestly be summed with "I am the biggest slut of them all please book me, boys" and you want to imply that this post was an ad in disguise from Lena trying to "impose" anything?

Idk how to tell you this but Lena offers more than just social dates so we're still waiting on an example for the phenomenon you claim exists where an escort is clogging this site with ads for strictly social services. This is the lounge btw.

You know what I think Julia? I just think you’re mad and have nothing to say. I actually give a fuck about my clientele and this industry and this woke feminist victimhood crap needs to stop.
Not my fault I don’t align with your feminist “fuck the patriarchy movement” “men are shit” ideology.
You cater to male clients. If you can’t deal with clients gtfo of the industry. Simple as that.

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel - is what I meant in response to this post. A question was asked publicly - then is imposed with an answer that is trying to to tell men (that you cater to) that the industry changed. It didn’t lmao.

The moment someone disagrees with you - you all come out like vultures and label everyone to feel better about how much facts triggered you.

You can’t stand difference of opinion.

I don’t care about what LC offers or what you or anyone else offers. You’re all allowed to do what you want!

The point is - stop trying to change the industry - no it didn’t change and no, clients don’t want to take you out to mini putt - chances are they wanna fuck you.

This is the reality of the game btw.