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Trump Victory: American heading towards Fascism? - Financial Times (London) 11/14/2024

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Yeah really going to miss those two entitled asshole comedians.
They weren’t funny lol. Couldn’t hold a candle to Johny or Letterman.
That isn't even remotely the point. The so-called Free Speech Warriors should be up at arms about this. Instead they're dismissing it bc it's not their people. Another chapter in that history book tells us what happens when we think "at least it's not us."
 

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Yeah really going to miss those two entitled asshole comedians.
They weren’t funny lol. Couldn’t hold a candle to Johny or Letterman.
If Letterman were still on, he'd be getting cancelled too.

“This is misery,” Letterman said when asked about Kimmel’s suspension, speaking at The Atlantic Festival 2025 Thursday in New York. “I feel bad about this,” he continued. “We see where this is all going, correct? It’s managed media. And it’s no good. It’s silly. It’s ridiculous. And you can’t go around firing somebody because you’re fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian criminal administration in the Oval Office. That’s just not how this works.”
 

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If Letterman were still on, he'd be getting cancelled too.

“This is misery,” Letterman said when asked about Kimmel’s suspension, speaking at The Atlantic Festival 2025 Thursday in New York. “I feel bad about this,” he continued. “We see where this is all going, correct? It’s managed media. And it’s no good. It’s silly. It’s ridiculous. And you can’t go around firing somebody because you’re fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian criminal administration in the Oval Office. That’s just not how this works.”

And the (wannabe ?) Dictator added-up in his return trip from UK, by almost asking for the Licences cancellation of all info sources that didn't kick his ass.
Do anyone still doubt that he act as a Dictator ?
Before his First election in 2015, I wrote tha Hitler died in may 1945 .
Trump was born 12 months later, the time that Satan planned Hitler replacement !
I posted that as kind of a joke at that time but perhaps I wasn't wrong !
 

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If Letterman were still on, he'd be getting cancelled too.

“This is misery,” Letterman said when asked about Kimmel’s suspension, speaking at The Atlantic Festival 2025 Thursday in New York. “I feel bad about this,” he continued. “We see where this is all going, correct? It’s managed media. And it’s no good. It’s silly. It’s ridiculous. And you can’t go around firing somebody because you’re fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian criminal administration in the Oval Office. That’s just not how this works.”
Oh please lol
Same people bitching now who were rejoicing when Trump was banned on Twitter.
I agree that freedom of speech is of prime importance but that goes for everyone not just who the left or the right decides is worthy in their opinion.
 

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And the (wannabe ?) Dictator added-up in his return trip from UK, by almost asking for the Licences cancellation of all info sources that didn't kick his ass.
Do anyone still doubt that he act as a Dictator ?
Before his First election in 2015, I wrote tha Hitler died in may 1945 .
Trump was born 12 months later, the time that Satan planned Hitler replacement !
I posted that as kind of a joke at that time but perhaps I wasn't wrong !

I wrote lick his ass, not kick ! Fucking auto correction !
Licking his ass as 30 members of his administration did during 3 hours and 15 minutes a week or two ago in a meeting !
 
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Oh please lol
Same people bitching now who were rejoicing when Trump was banned on Twitter.
I agree that freedom of speech is of prime importance but that goes for everyone not just who the left or the right decides is worthy in their opinion.
He was banned from Twitter for inciting violence. That's not the same as making jokes in a monologue about the President instead of openly grieving a white nationalist grifter. The Supreme Court has ruled that free speech doesn't extend to hate speech and speech that can lead to bodily harm (ie. yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre). Even the sycophants are starting to realize that this is a bridge too far.
 
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He was banned from Twitter for inciting violence. That's not the same as making jokes in a monologue about the President instead of openly grieving a white nationalist grifter. The Supreme Court has ruled that free speech doesn't extend to hate speech and speech that can lead to bodily harm (ie. yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre). Even the sycophants are starting to realize that this is a bridge too far.
Again who was the judge.
The left media? You ? lol.
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
 

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Again who was the judge.
The left media? You ? lol.
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
The actual judges... in the Supreme Court... say that's not free speech and is not protected because it causes actual harm, not just rando lunatic opinion that you can ignore if you don't like. Forgetting all this can't you at least admit that trying to get someone fired bc they poked fun about how you care about no-one, not even Charlie Kirk, is so incredibly lame. He called the teacher bc that funny boy made fun of me.
 
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Again who was the judge.
The left media? You ? lol.
Opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

Everyone has an asshole, et least I hope !
And quite a few are themselves assholes !
I don't remember his name but a republican in the house in First Trump presidency was throwned out. He lied about many things in his personnal and professional life. Probably some other posters remember his name
 

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Saying the USA is "heading towards fascism" is like saying that someone walking down Sherbrooke Street is "heading towards Montreal"
The trump administration is a fascist government. This is fascism right here and right now. And it will only get worse. Plus they will not leave office ever. The peaceful transition of power is over. That's what comes with fascism.
 

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The actual judges... in the Supreme Court... say that's not free speech and is not protected because it causes actual harm, not just rando lunatic opinion that you can ignore if you don't like. Forgetting all this can't you at least admit that trying to get someone fired bc they poked fun about how you care about no-one, not even Charlie Kirk, is so incredibly lame. He called the teacher bc that funny boy made fun of me.
I did admit that free speech is important. You should read my previous post that is exactly what I said post # 124
It is important for everyone though not just asshole entitled comedians.

« Just under three months after former President Donald Trump was permanently banned the Supreme Court put an end to a legal battle over Trump’s personal Twitter account, throwing out a lower-court ruling against the former president and instructing that court to dismiss the case on the ground that it is moot – that is, no longer a live controversy. »
 
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I did admit that free speech is important. You should read my previous post that is exactly what I said post # 124
It is important for everyone though not just asshole entitled comedians.

« Just under three months after former President Donald Trump was permanently banned the Supreme Court put an end to a legal battle over Trump’s personal Twitter account, throwing out a lower-court ruling against the former president and instructing that court to dismiss the case on the ground that it is moot – that is, no longer a live controversy. »
Yeah, he got it back bc he was no longer posing a threat to Americans with his speech and the violence he was calling for had subsided. If you can't see the difference between that and jokes a comedian makes on stage, you're lost. If Obama called for the FCC to silence a critic the right would already be in their pickups headed for DC. In your heart you know it isn't right, but you're likely stuck in a spot where you feel some sort of sunk cost fallacy; you've invested and defended what's turning out to be plain-as-day fascism and now you feel too stuck to jump ship because it will have mean you're on the wrong side of history the whole time. Now you know exactly what it feels like to be the citizens that future generations will look back on and say, "how the fuck did they let this happen?"
 

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Yeah, he got it back bc he was no longer posing a threat to Americans with his speech and the violence he was calling for had subsided. If you can't see the difference between that and jokes a comedian makes on stage, you're lost. If Obama called for the FCC to silence a critic the right would already be in their pickups headed for DC. In your heart you know it isn't right, but you're likely stuck in a spot where you feel some sort of sunk cost fallacy; you've invested and defended what's turning out to be plain-as-day fascism and now you feel too stuck to jump ship because it will have mean you're on the wrong side of history the whole time. Now you know exactly what it feels like to be the citizens that future generations will look back on and say, "how the fuck did they let this happen?"
So when he gets banned it is ok when he is absolved of it it isn’t lol.
Free speech is for everybody Trump and comedians, you got it all wrong let me spell it out for you.
The comedians do not deserve to be fired because of jokes neither did Trump for his comments.
We all have a brain and should be able to think for ourselves and we can switch of the tv or Twitter you are not forced to listen to either.

You think Biden and that cackling witch calling him a fascist and comparing him to Hitler was not hate speech. It almost got him killed.
All of you leftists have a one track mind and think you are so damn smart and educated and anyone that doesn’t think like you has to be wrong.
This is exactly what got Trump elected so enjoy this lunatic for the next 3 years who wants to control the world because you guys helped put him there.

Banning speech is never the answer. Trump may be an egotistical asshole but he loves his country in his own maniacal way.
 

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Free speech is for everybody
Not all forms of speech are protected speech. Inciting violence for example. Trump was banned because he refused the election results and called on his supporters to fight back. Surprise, surprise - violence was the result. He should still be banned. If someone here called on all the Merbites to rise up and attack Plante, they would get banned and not allowed back. I don't think it's asking too much that Trump be held to the same standards.
 

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Not all forms of speech are protected speech. Inciting violence for example. Trump was banned because he refused the election results and called on his supporters to fight back. Surprise, surprise - violence was the result. He should still be banned. If someone here called on all the Merbites to rise up and attack Plante, they would get banned and not allowed back. I don't think it's asking too much that Trump be held to the same standards.
Again Trump came within a few inches of being assassinated because the left was continually calling him a fasciste and comparing him to Hitler, but of course that was all ok and it wasn’t hate speech or instigating violence lol.

Neither side is beyond violence look at all the ones rejoicing that a father and husband was murdered because he did not believe in the woke bullshit of the left.
I am not a fan of any politician nor do I support the left or the right, for me politicians are the most vile human beings on the planet, perhaps that is why I can look at both sides and see the corruption and hatred equally.
 
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Again Trump came within a few inches of being assassinated because the left was continually calling him a fasciste and comparing him to Hitler, but of course that was all ok and it wasn’t hate speech or instigating violence lol.

Neither side is beyond violence look at all the ones rejoicing that a father and husband was murdered because he did not believe in the woke bullshit of the left.
I am not a fan of any politician nor do I support the left or the right, for me politicians are the most vile human beings on the planet, perhaps that is why I can look at both sides and see the corruption and hatred equally.
Were they wrong about Trump? He already tried to orchestrate a coup when he lost. He's sent military into cities to do police work, which isn't supposed to be a thing the military does except under extraordinary circumstances. He joked about Pelosi's husband, called Biden an enemy of the state, called the Democrats fascists and demonic. He's currently trying to silence any critics. Looks to me like The Dems were right.

The fact that Donald "grab'em by the pussy" Trump was even allowed to run is fucking amazing. 34 felonies, multiple rape allegations, found guilty in civil court of sexual abuse, six bankruptcies. At least 3 of those bankruptcies were casinos. You have to either be very bad at business or very corrupt to bankrupt a casino. He did it three times.

Then there's his Russian ties. Trump was basically broke in the 90s. Russia came to his rescue. He is a danger to America and he's been proving it over and over. But hey, at least you don't have to worry about a trans person playing sports. God forbid.
 

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Were they wrong about Trump? He already tried to orchestrate a coup when he lost. He's sent military into cities to do police work, which isn't supposed to be a thing the military does except under extraordinary circumstances. He joked about Pelosi's husband, called Biden an enemy of the state, called the Democrats fascists and demonic. He's currently trying to silence any critics. Looks to me like The Dems were right.

The fact that Donald "grab'em by the pussy" Trump was even allowed to run is fucking amazing. 34 felonies, multiple rape allegations, found guilty in civil court of sexual abuse, six bankruptcies. At least 3 of those bankruptcies were casinos. You have to either be very bad at business or very corrupt to bankrupt a casino. He did it three times.

Then there's his Russian ties. Trump was basically broke in the 90s. Russia came to his rescue. He is a danger to America and he's been proving it over and over. But hey, at least you don't have to worry about a trans person playing sports. God forbid.
Yep the Dems were so right and so smart that they managed to put Trump back as President for 4 years.
Way to go Dems, keep up the good work. Keep up the woke bullshit and perhaps they will mange to put the Republicans in for another 4 years after Trump.

You think regurgitating the same woke bullshit is going to help lol.
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Trans persons can play all the sports they want against other trans. That way they won’t rob women of something they worked all their life for with an unfair advantage.
 
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Yep the Dems were so right and so smart that they managed to put Trump back as President for 4 years.
Way to go Dems, keep up the good work. Keep up the woke bullshit and perhaps they will mange to put the Republicans in for another 4 years after Trump.

You think regurgitating the same woke bullshit is going to help lol.
It has nothing to do with wokeness. It's simple, the Dems ran women as their candidates both times they lost to Trump. America is not ready for a woman leader. Also, the racists in America will never forgive or forget that the Dems got a Black man into the position of President. That hurt them to their core and Trump was by their side the whole time with his birther BS.

It's not wokeness that got Trump into power, it's racism and misogyny. If the Dems are smart (they aren't), they'll run with a white man next election.
 
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It has nothing to do with wokeness. It's simple, the Dems ran women as their candidates both times they lost to Trump. America is not ready for a woman leader. Also, the racists in America will never forgive or forget that the Dems got a Black man into the position of President. That hurt them to their core and Trump was by their side the whole time with his birther BS.

It's not wokeness that got Trump into power, it's racism and misogyny. If the Dems are smart (they aren't), they'll run with a white man next election.
Seems Obama was President and he was black so your racist angle is not that solid.
So now it is racism and misogyny that put Trump in power.
No it is actually $$$$ and the Dems smug elitist bullshit and disdain for the middle class that put Trump in power and they still haven’t learned not to crap on the average American and call him an uneducated moron because all he is worried about is putting food on the table and a roof over his head and not so much about pronouns and being politically correct.

You are right about one thing both times Trump ran against the worst and most unpopular women the Dems could have chosen
Hillary was a smug full of herself elitist who thought the poor and the middle class were all morons and Kamala was a cackling hyena who was a DEI candidate that made a fool of herself eveytime she got up to speak.