The Never Ending Saga of the Epstein Sex Scandal

[minutemenX]

I 100% agree with your first sentence and I said as much in the previous post. Just appearing in the files doesn't mean anything, but the context and what was said absolutely does.

Of the few people who have stepped down from their posts or the public eye, like Larry Summers, CEO of Chuck E Cheese, Peter Mandelson, why are they doing so if they've done nothing wrong?

I don't doubt that Clinton, Dershowitz et al. know that cavorting with teenage girls is morally and legally wrong. What you're missing is what applies to all those people applied to Epstein too: they thought they were invincible and wouldn't get caught. And it's not hard to believe that when these activities have been happening for decades. Even when Epstein first dealt with legal consequences, he got a deal that netted him 13 months behind bars.

You forgot that in the US using escort service is considered a turpitude and a borderline crime. This is why these people are stepping down. You again are trying to make people guilty by association with the logic that no way all these people did not use service of underaged girls if Epstein did. I don’t buy it. Maybe very selective few but not in general. These few need to be persecuted and the rest left alone by the hypocritical media and public.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I doubt these people used Epstein to hook up with underage girls but I think pretty much everyone who knew Epstein knew he was hooking up with young girls. Even Trump joked that Epstein "likes 'em young." They all knew this. In that sense you could argue that all of them, even if they didn't use Epstein to connect with underaged women, nevertheless were enablers of Epstein just like Ghislaine Maxwell, who went to jail for enabling his activities. Epstein profited either from their money or their reputations and used their association to promote his own illegal activities. This should be clear. And for this reason nobody should be feeling sorry for Wasserman and others going down.

The bigger question is who is the next Epstein- "pimp for the celebrities and the stars"? There is clearly a lot of money in this and a demand for the service. I want to know who the 2026 Epstein is. He or she is out there. Who is filling this demand?

 

[EagerBeaver]

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

 

[Carmine Falcone]

You forgot that in the US using escort service is considered a turpitude and a borderline crime. This is why these people are stepping down. You again are trying to make people guilty by association with the logic that no way all these people did not use service of underaged girls if Epstein did. I don’t buy it. Maybe very selective few but not in general. These few need to be persecuted and the rest left alone by the hypocritical media and public.

(A) If I readily conceded--twice--that appearance in the files is not in and of itself evidence of wrongdoing, there's no logical connection of any sort to me making people guilty by association.

(B) "Thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314631578.html

Those were words attributed to Donald Trump about Epstein and teenage girls by a Palm Beach sheriff. Trump purportedly told the sheriff that in 2006, and the sheriff relayed that information to the FBI in 2019.

You can choose to believe there was a separate pool of girls for Epstein, but not Epstein's friends. The little evidence we have and the recruitment don't suggest that, but have at it.

(I chose not to dwell on Trump's very obvious contradiction of the different versions of Trump said about he knew about Epstein's activities).

(C) There were a ton of people who were emailing Epstein after his 2008 guilty plea for underage prostitution, with some trying to make arrangements to see girls. It's impossible not to know at that point, but people still wanted in. It's naive to think people didn't know or Epstein was only procuring of-age women.

 

[minutemenX]

(A) If I readily conceded--twice--that appearance in the files is not in and of itself evidence of wrongdoing, there's no logical connection of any sort to me making people guilty by association.

(B) "Thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314631578.html

Those were words attributed to Donald Trump about Epstein and teenage girls by a Palm Beach sheriff. Trump purportedly told the sheriff that in 2006, and the sheriff relayed that information to the FBI in 2019.

You can choose to believe there was a separate pool of girls for Epstein, but not Epstein's friends. The little evidence we have and the recruitment don't suggest that, but have at it.

(I chose not to dwell on Trump's very obvious contradiction of the different versions of Trump said about he knew about Epstein's activities).

(C) There were a ton of people who were emailing Epstein after his 2008 guilty plea for child abuse, with some trying to make arrangements to see girls. It's impossible not to know at that point, but people still wanted in. It's naive to think people didn't know or Epstein was only procuring of-age women.

Again, there is no hard evidence that somebody met underaged girls besides Epstein, only speculation. I would like to see the evidence that can stay in court.